No Sri Lankan Patriot wanted it to come to this, but Gen. Sarath Fonseka had not learned this basic principle of survival: When immersed nose deep in mud, the wise keep their mouths closed!
Gen. Fonseka will have the time to ponder this truism, as he contemplates the errors of judgment that led to his precipitous fall from grace from being, perhaps, the third most admired man in Sri Lanka to one of the most vilified, in a brief period of nine months. World history abounds with such instances of foolish men of unbounded ambition destroying themselves when they loosen their grasp on honor, duty and patriotism.
Colombopage had this to say today (February 08, 2010) about Gen. Fonseka's arrest:
General Fonseka has been arrested on charges of committing military offenses during his time in the Army," the newly appointed military spokesman Major General Prasad Samarasinghe said in an official statement to the Government Media Unit. He did not elaborate on the specific offenses.
Director General of the Media Centre for National Security, Lakshman Hulugalle, said Fonseka would face charges in a military court of conspiracy against the government.
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The government has accused General Fonseka of plotting to assassinate the President and overthrow the government by a coup. The government has arrested over 50 of his loyal retired military officers on planning the coup. General Fonseka denies all government's accusations against him.
However, a BBC report said earlier in the day the General had threatened to divulge the military secrets in response to alleged war crimes against the Sri Lankan military during the final phase of the war against the LTTE.
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Early in his presidential campaign in an interview to a Sunday weekly, the opposition candidate accused the Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa of ordering the Army's 58 Division leader to kill the senior LTTE cadres who were attempting to surrender with white flags.
He later retracted the statement saying the paper misquoted him but the government and the media said the retired commander betrayed the nations and the damage to the country and the military had been done by the General's statement for political gain.
According to The Asian Tribune the main charges, read out to Gen. Fonseka at the time of his arrest, were
• Politicking whilst in uniform,
• Conspiring against the Commander-in-Chief whilst in Service,
• Harboring more than 1,500 deserters whilst on Service,
• And, corrupt practices in relating to military procurements.
We trust that the Government has all of the necessary evidence to support these charges, and that they will promptly release him if the evidence available cannot stand up to legal scrutiny. However, what we know of Gen. Fonseka's activities to date since the end of the Eelam War in May, 2009, as reported in the press and elsewhere, leads us to believe that Gen. Fonseka will be convicted in a court of law, and will spend a significant portion of his life behind bars.
We take no joy in the downfall of one we considered a war-hero, but we firmly believe that those who betray their country by deed and word for ANY REASON WHATSOEVER, must be held ACCOUNTABLE, if only to serve as an example to deter others from VIOLATING the Law of the Land, and UNDERMINING the National Security of the Motherland.
Let ALL those who conspire to betray the Motherland, and violate Sri Lanka's laws with impunity take note: You will no longer will be allowed to run free; you will be held accountable for your actions! You can RUN, but you will not be able to HIDE! Therefore, CEASE and DESIST, in your own interest.
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 600 of 1217 Newer› Newest»Swarnajith Udana said ..
[People vote for MR because they trusted for him to be the best bet for the future]
ABSOLUTELY true!
Some people wanted change.. yaha-palanaya.. law for every one.. And now who is crying...?
If we are uncomfortable arresting Gonseka we better change our constitution.. Probably we need 2/3.. so better way is to vote for UPFA, give 2/3 and asked these amendments.
1. Gonseka or any of his relatives cannot be arrested
2. If crminal suspects wife cries on TV release the suspect
3. If JVP protest on streets do what they say
Ninja:
Good one!
Sri Lanka needs carrot, not stick
Despite its shortcomings, scrapping Sri Lanka's trade benefits would only impede its progress towards liberal democracy
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What I feel like saying to these guys is stuff the carrot up your A** and stop medelling in SL affairs.
But one of the few articles who are in support of us. Few idiots are commenting against SL.
thambala said...
POL SAMBOL ET. AL,
THOSE COMMENTS IN DERANA ARE NOT CHARACTERISTIC OF KALU SUDDAS.
THEY ARE FROM WOUND LICKING EELAM STRAY CATS. THEIR TAMIL EELAM IS WORTH MORE THAN PREVENTING A GLOBAL WAR!
February 10, 2010 2:50 AM
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Well could be bother
@Thusitha,
Yeah the tard is prescribing "liberal democracy"? Wtf? Typical white retards carrying around their "white mans burden".
The unbelievable arrogance of suddha once again strikes where they do not tolerate "little brown people" rising up independently from them. These white morons are intolerant of any culture and thinking that is different to theirs, and think they are always right. Why else do they trot out excuses such as "abuse of state media" and "intimidation of opposition" to explain why their candidate Gonseka lost? As if Gonseka ran some picture perfect campaign, it was filled with lies, deceit, hate, venom, inconsistency and the promise of resurrection of Tamil terrorism backed by the same Western countries that sponsor Tamil terrorism and barbarity against Sinhalese, but since some white people ran his campaign they are “shocked” why Gonseka lost (interest that this fact was hidden until after election day, knowing fully well if it was released before the negative impact it would have for Gonseka) they refuse to admit that they are wrong. It is this same racist arrogance that makes them think they can preach to us about "human rights" and "war crimes" because they view people with different cultures, attitudes and skin colour as inferior. And isn't it comical that they are championing Gonseka who is their new hero? A year ago they wanted him jailed for "war crimes" now they are fighting for their lackeys "human rights"? We all know they launched the Gonseka initiative to divide Sinhalese and topple MR, now they are trotting excuses as to why that failed. Oh are they not bothered about Lasanthas killing now? Is it because their new hero did it? Funny how that issue suddenly dropped, then again they do not care about “democracy” or “free media”, these are cute sounds bites designed to attack and destroy nations and people.
"Now, Gordon Weiss, who until the end of last year was the UN’s spokesman in Colombo, has suggested the figure may be much higher. “A lot of civilians died inside the siege zone. I have heard anything between ten and forty thousand people and that’s from reliable sources who had a presence inside the zone,” he told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. “[The Sri Lankan authorities] repeated a number of things that were either intentionally misleading or were lies. One senior government civil servant remarked at the end of the war that the government insistence that the figures were very low was a ploy. It was a ploy to allow the government to get on with its business.” "
Typical white retard who got his ego bruised when he was summoned to the Foreign Ministry repeatedly and had to "submit" to "little born people". He was humiliated and discredited multiple times.
Just shows the arrogance and racism of these "UN Officials" and other suddhas. Hate being discredited and humiliated by people they view as inferior. Philip Alston is another example.
Also the Government used 1982 figures.
Population of Vanni was 250,000.
Government assumed due to the war and migration it was 200,000 in 2008/2009. A reasonable assumption assumed by all including tards at the UN, ICRC and elsehere.
When by March 50,000 civilians in LTTEs human shield created on request and advice of the West had escaped the Government stated there were roughly 150,000 left.
When the major exous took place in April and 190,000 civilians escaped it was obvious there was more than the originally belived 200,000.
Turns out there were 300,000 Tamilia in the Vanni, going by the numbers in the IDP centres, which exceeds the 1982 population statistic by 50,000. Considering war, conditions the Vanni under LTTE rule (poor quality of life, Military training and "disposal on the battlefield"), and mass-migration for Tamilia out of the Wanni to other parts of the country and overseas it is impossible for the population to have positive growth.
Most likely there was migration from Tamil nadu.
A Frankenstein scares Rajapaksa
"Streaks of intolerance and ruthlessness in Fonseka’s style of functioning, seen in his dealings with opponents and critics in the media in 2006-2007 when the war against the LTTE was waged in both conventional and unorthodox ways, had given an insight into what he was capable of, if left unchecked. To be sure, the Rajapaksa regime was complicit in many of the transgressions of human rights as it believed that the war had to be won at any cost. But when peace returned, it realised that it had created a Frankenstein. Fonseka’s post-war proposal to increase the size of the army by 3,00,000 men and import millions of dollars worth of new arms, was seen as a scheme to make the army his political power base.
Intelligence reported that Fonseka had formed groups of loyalists within the army and established links with the opposition parties and some Western powers to bring about a regime change. To nip the trend in the bud, Rajapaksa removed Fonseka from the command of the army and made him a chief of defence staff with no functions. Stung, Fonseka sought retirement and accepted the opposition parties’ nomination as their candidate against Rajapaksa in the presidential election. He bit the dust in the elections, but the government continued to hound him, heaping charges on him. The opposition sees this as flogging a dead horse out of sheer political vendetta and fears that witch-hunting may become part of Sri Lanka’s political culture, especially with an executive president enjoying unbridled power. But Rajapaksa feels that decisive action against Fonseka and his cohorts now will nip the politicisation of the army in the bud, and prevent Sri Lanka from going the way of Pakistan and Myanmar."
http://tinyurl.com/ycdkar6
General Fonseka was planning a military rule - Defence Secretary
Defence.lk
February 12, 2010
General's involvement in clandestine politics and his anarchic behaviour during the latter stages of his tenure as the Commander of the Sri Lanka Army clearly demonstrated that he was heading towards leading a coup, said Secretary Defence Mr. Gotabaya Rajapaksa.
"He was planning on a military rule. It was very clear in the latter stages, in the way he had spoken and addressed the people. He said he wouldn't allow the politicians to rob the military of the victory they had achieved and offer a political solution. He was completely trying to isolate the politics and take the country on a different path. In his very last stages as army commander he began bringing his people into Colombo and his regiment, positioning his senior regiment people all over. All these things were looking like a military coup". The Secretary said in an interview with the Strait Times of Singapore, yesterday (11 Feb).
The full interview
On the circumstances that prompted Fonseka's arrest:
The episode has nothing to do with our political differences. The biggest damage he has done is by coming into politics in the manner he did. After 35 years in the military he should have thought of the institution as a whole.
Our forces never used to be involved in politics but this time they were fully involved and this divided the military. He used to telephone officers directly. Some officers told me they switched off their cell phones because of this. His campaign staff comprised mostly military officers and their main task was trying to reach the security commanders.
He divided the army. Because of this, the government had to bring some of the officers on television to defend its position. He started his political campaign when he was occupying the army commander's house!
On Fonseka's charge that his military security was deliberately reduced to expose him to danger:
He had requested for a certain number of security personnel. This was granted, but he kept more than that. The army couldn't do anything. If it tried to take away the extra security and vehicles, he would immediately have claimed the government was harassing the commander.
He created the situation and then he began attacking the president and myself in a third grade manner, more than any other politician ever would. It was so dirty.
Another Slander From LNW.
MR was only given a diploma not an honorary doctorate.
To prove this they show the certificate with the title Diploma.
What they have proved is not that MR was granted just a Diploma but their own shameless to lie, distort utter filthy lies.
People have Diploma Diplomas and Diplomas of PHD, DSC, Doctorates, MSc, BSC etc.
Please ask your heart why are they doing this. Are they stabbing MR, or our Nation?
General Fonseka was planning a military rule - Defence Secretary
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On the main reason for Fonseka's arrest:
The main reason is whatever he had done in the military. He will be charged under the army act. Under the army act, any officer can be charged under military act within six months of leaving the military. There are other things we will do under civil code.
Such as what?
It was clear that while he was holding the Chief of Defence Staff assignment he was working with politicians and held discussions with them and tried to win them over. That was completely wrong because he was sitting in Security Council meetings. It amounts to treason. He knew everything that was going on.
The IDP (internally displaced persons) situation for instance. He is the only person who disagreed that the people should be resettled promptly. He completely opposed it. In fact, he said there should be no resettlement for three years. (Presidential adviser) Basil (Rajapaksa) wanted it. The security force commanders wanted it. But Fonseka said, no, he can't agree.
Once in the Eastern Province (a war-ravaged province where Tamils are a majority) he even told the security commander to bring back to camps those who had been resettled. Everyone in the army knows that. But once he left the army, he said just the reverse.
On the other civil offences:
Well, he alleged that I gave orders for shooting at people holding white flags (of surrender). It is utter lies. You can understand the difficulty he put the government in. On Tuesday, he told the BBC that he will give evidence in any court. That type of thing. He simply cannot do that. For one thing it is a lie. The other thing is to give evidence... after all he was one of the people involved.
Also, certain things he said in the political campaign we cannot ignore. It wasn't in the heat of campaigning. He was serious. Such as how to get rid of certain people.
On Fonseka knowing about the murder of the journalist Lasantha Wickrematunge beforehand:
Yes, of course. We know there was no other person. You have to see the circumstances. Some of the media people harmed had never criticised any other person except him, or people close to him. Nothing happened to those who had been criticising me or the president.
We have a clue whom he has used. We are very convinced. In fact, I know for sure. He was definitely responsible for 5 or 6 cases (of disappearances) where media people were involved. Now I am going after the people who did the executions. The truth will come out very soon, then the people will know.
General Fonseka was planning a military rule - Defence Secretary
........continued 2........
On government fears that he was heading towards leading a coup:
He was planning on a military rule. It was very clear in the latter stages, in the way he had spoken and addressed the people. He said he wouldn't allow the politicians to rob the military of the victory they had achieved and offer a political solution.
He was completely trying to isolate the politics and take the country on a different path. In his very last stages as army commander he began bringing his people into Colombo and his regiment, positioning his senior regiment people all over.
All these things were looking like a military coup. He also took a keen interest in changing the previous navy commander (who was not well inclined towards him).
All that hastened our decision to move him to a higher appointment. I had to take that decision to take him out from the commander's position and make him CDS (Chief of Defence Staff). The CDS is not a ceremonial post, but he created that impression. The fighting phase (against the Tamil Tigers) was over and in the second phase what was required was more intelligence and planning. It needed careful planning, rebooting. You can't do it the same way you conducted a military operation. Hence, the CDS appointment.
Outsiders don't know all this and call it a demotion. In fact, the JVP (Janatha Vimukti Peramuna) who are his present supporters criticised the government at the time for creating such a position with huge powers. They said we are trying to create a dictator. They said too much power vested in a single person. If Fonseka's aim was to serve that would have been a better position.
On the impact on the army:
They understand. They know he has made mistakes. His behaviour during the campaign antagonised the military. And in any case he wasn't a very popular army commander. We ourselves gave him more credit than he deserved. There were better officers in the army.
He was appointed 12 days before retirement. If President Rajapaksa had not been elected in 2005 Fonseka would have retired as a major general. What he achieved we could have done with any other commander. We had better officers who had made more sacrifices.
We had four presidents previously. None of them were convinced it (the Tamil Tiger separatist insurgency) could be tackled militarily. Only Rajapaksa (the President) was convinced it had to be tackled as a military problem. All the others were half hearted. It was only purely numbers. I gave numbers and increased the army's strength by three times to close to 300,000. We put more people on the ground.
On Fonseka's wife saying she has no clue to his whereabouts:
He is being kept in a naval base. He is not in a cell or anything. We have given him an apartment that was once used by the navy commander when he was a chief of staff. It is pretty luxurious.
If Fonseka had won he wouldn't have given all these facilities even to President Rajapaksa. But he lies, his wife lies and his supporters lie.
On letting him campaign in the parliamentary polls:
Now he can't. The court martial will begin immediately after the assembling of the summary of evidence is done. I don't know how long it will take because that depends on lawyers. But we want to finish it soon, in less than six months maybe. The severity of the charges is very high. He can be put in jail for as long as five years.
General Fonseka was planning a military rule - Defence Secretary
........continued 3........
On Fonseka alleging serious human rights violations by the Sri Lankan military:
I am not bothered. He can tell any lie but he can't prove anything. At one time he says defence secretary wasn't in office at a particular time, at another time he says I gave illegal orders (of shooting at people holding white flags of surrender) during that time. We can prove these allegations aren't true.
We are 100 per cent convinced that western countries with vested interests were backing him. Even the US, and countries like Norway, spent lots of money on his campaign.
I have proof of the Norwegian government paying journalists to write against the government. They have vested interests and used to support the Tamil Tigers in various ways. They also supported Fonseka to try oust the president.
On Gotabaya's personal plans:
There are still a lot of things that need to be done. As secretary for defence I have to bring stability. The Tamil Tigers has a big network outside. We have broken much of that but we have to continue. The military can do a lot for reconciliation. People don't understand how good our soldiers are. A lot of people tell me that in the Eastern Province they want army around, not police. The army can also play a major role in development because we have trained, disciplined people.
On whether he is standing for the parliamentary polls like his nephew, the president's son:
I won't be contesting for parliament.
Northern resettlement accelerated
Defence.lk
February 13, 2010
A total of 75,000 displaced persons remain to be resettled and resettlement has been accelerated from last week, Governor of the Northern Province G.A. Chandrasiri said.
He said that People are being resettled once in every three days. The resettlement is being carried out at Ganeshapuram, Kattayamalai and East Mankulam areas from February 10.
Arrangements were being made to carry out resettlement in three Grama Seva Divisions in Paranthan in Killinochchi. Resettlement has been completed in four Grama Seva Divisions at Oddusudan in the Mullaitivu District.
Meanwhile the US has granted 433 million rupees for the resettlement of people in the North. The USAID has given this amount following the intervention of US Ambassador Patricia Butenis. These funds will be utilized for the resettlement of people in Jaffna, Mannar, Vavuniya,Mulaitivu, Kilinochchi and Trincomalee Districts.
Courtesy : Government Information Department
People who argue against the arrest of SF since they believe that SF has done nothing wrong are the Wroshippers of Genuine True Sun God the Second.
As anything done by VP was acts of divine nature, for these worshippers of SFism, the rapes, killings, betrayals, threats of betrayals, telephone sex addiction, keeping desserters, Hi-corp corruption, brutalims, filthy mouth and Idi Aministic Pol Pottist outlook all are divine which get their homage.
On Fonseka's wife saying she has no clue to his whereabouts:
He is being kept in a naval base. He is not in a cell or anything. We have given him an apartment that was once used by the navy commander when he was a chief of staff. It is pretty luxurious.
If Fonseka had won he wouldn't have given all these facilities even to President Rajapaksa. But he lies, his wife lies and his supporters lie.
His wife was given time to se him after his arrest, instead she "cries" to the nation over his alleged "abduction" (resisting arrest and acting despicably) then he "inanity to see him or not know where he is (a complete fabrication since he was told where he was and could see him but refused). All part of a JVP ploy to incite violent protest by getting their bussed in thugs into a frenzy.
Fact she then passed on Gonsekas "appeal for calm from the troops" is further proof of this. This is where Government fails in propaganda and public relations, they should elaborate and explain her lie and its intention rather than just calling it a lie.
Nonetheless good to see Gonseka has sense of humour, still thinking he is Army Commander.
And GR put him in Navy Commanders apartment? Karanagoda former residence? No wonder Gonseka needed extra medication.
SU,
Those asking for his release fall into two categories:
1) Those who do not want him out and are in fact happy he is in because that gives them something to complain about and push their political opportunities with having a "free Gonseka" tag line added to their political platforms.
2) As mentioned by you those who want the Sinhala VP out -mainly the West who want their agent to work freely, i.e. jail MR/GR, fulfilling his agreements with the West/TNA (resurrecting the CFA era/separatism), silencing all who voice opposition to him and sending the country into eventual anarchy plus contracts for his son in law.
Yes Pol Sambol:
I was looking at the second kind.
Secon kind can also be divided into two.
One with ulterior motives (you mentioned)
The other just submissive minded people
I have a suggestion for Somawansa.
Write to Norway.
Better write Eric Solehim.
They will rescue you.
Guranteed, at least they will try. They did for VP.
Whoever promises to walk on the neck of our Nation will be protected by them. Try!
ෆොන්සේකාට විරුද්ධව ලක්ෂමන්, මංගල, ජොන්ස්ටන් සාක්ෂි දෙයි...
Lankacnews
Pigs flesh is cut on the back of pigs themselves.
Mr. Hinawela don’t come here to paint a picture of saint for yourself. We know who you are from your writings as well as usual arse lickings!
This is a Golden statement for-
it describes the describer rather than what it has attempted to describe.
What an irony!
Guys we don't need duplicate posts here and DW...
Now I agree with the policy of deleting comments from confirmed multiple handles of any user.
Ninja that was a mistake. I will try to acoid that but it may inadvertantly happen. When that happens please pardon me. I am doing this among many other things. Then aren't we all?
Can we send a delegation from Sri Lanka to investigate this please?
New IDPS?
Good reply to Weiss
An open letter to Gordon Weiss
According to Sirasa (dunno credibility) The Mahanayaka hamuduruwo have released an edict asking for Ponseka's release..They want MR/GR/SF to patch up..
'Tharaha awasara humuduruwaney? Mechhara hariyak wenakan balang hitiye ey? Appamado Amathapadan"
However the president being 'Thrisinhaladeeshwara' will have to respond..
Diyasena,
They want MR/GR/SF to patch up..
For a start, the kalawedda needs to beg for forgiveness from the people of Sri Lanka ten times in public for his treacherous acts.
The hamuduruwo have quoted the quarrel between Dutugemunu and Saddhathissa..The president too should respond with the historical example of Dhathusena and Migara..If SF was allowed to roam free any longer the president may have ended up like Dhathusena..
Sam,
Thalaivar (piss be upon him) will return from Hellam before Ponseka apologises in public
/The Mahanayaka hamuduruwo have released an edict asking for Ponseka's release..They want MR/GR/SF to patch up../
Mahanayakas should first read tipitaka and learn what buddha taught. Then they will find all bikkhus including are supposed to follow king's rule. Nevertheless according to SL law all citizens - including mahanayakas should follow SL law. Like it or not, this is not 'raja dawasa' and apart from some influence toward public in cultural framework, specially close to an election, there is nothing mahanayakas to do in this GOnseka arrest process.
Of course, they can 'patch-up'. MR,GR,SF all three or even more can throw a party, have a drink, arrange some 'dana' for stupid mahanayakas or do any thing. It doesn't matter for us. Only thing - proper investigation should be done on all accusations against the suspect - law/procedure should be followed. No one has legal right to intervene. If Gonseka patch up and MR wants to please mahanayakas only legal possibility I see is MR can grant forgiveness if he found guilty.
If these mahanayakas had any brain and any genuine concern toward sinhala nation they should have intervened at the very beginning and avoid Gonseka running for PE and asked to patch up at that time.
At that time no patchup needed. At that time mahanayakas wanted every one to follow law - election law.
We note that JHU was critical factor initiating political direction toward war victory. JVP left with no option other than competing with JHU to safeguard their vote base. Further, when JHU entered politics mahanayakas opposed or didn't support. But people voted for JHU. Mahanayaks should at least learn from JHU some nationalistic politics other than licking asses of UNP politicians fulltime.
UNP know very well that this Gonseka arrest could be used as a tool to attack SLFP vote base which is mostly rural-buddhist. They have found the easy way - using mahanayakas.
What these mahanayakas did when RW signed and hand over NE to LTTE...?? They stayed like 'poos pataw'.
Any one worrying about these mahanayakas whining I request to read
1. How these nikayas formed
2. What Buddha taught on caste
3. How these mahanayakas (malwathu-asgiri) appointed (by British) and what conditions they accepted from British
Yeah Ninja this is a ploy by Ranil (obviously with blessing from outside). Funny that Ranil and his fellow Colombians are extremists Christians who not only supported Tamil savagery against Buddhists but want Buddhism purged from the island. How many times did these people viciously attack Buddhists monks and Buddhism in their "literature", statements and activities, now they are praising them (see comments in various forums like "LankaAcademic" and Adaderana).
Naturally this is the best way to go about it. Use the Mahanayakas to destroy the nation and the Mahanayakas themselves. Immediately after the election Ranil and Gonseka went to them with their "fraudulent elections" cry baby tears instead of the courts. Using a tool to serve their interests and then toss it out.
If anything Mahanayakas will loose credibility. Also if they want Gonseka to be "pardoned for doing any wrong" they should also get him to shut up, or stopped him from entering PE. Would he listen? Nope. First thing he would do if he was in power and they gave him "advice" is jail the whole lot.
දොන් ජුවන් ධර්මපාලගෙන් පසුව ජාතිෙද්රdaහීන් කොතෙක් සිටිය ද මෙයට වඩා පාවාදීමක් කළ ජාතිෙද්රdaහියකු තවත් දකින්නට නැත.
බටහිර පිනවීමට ජාතියට නියවීම !
මහචාර්ය නලින් ද සිල්වා
http://www.divaina.com/2010/02/14/feature04.html
http://www.silumina.lk/2010/02/14/_art.asp?fn=ab1002141
Great kings like Parakramabahu and Wijayabahu not only defeated invaders, unite the country but also did a great service to buddhism by 'cleaning' the bikku society. They send undisciplined monks home. MR should do the same. He should ban caste base nikayas and send home undisciplined monks - like these mahanayakas.
When General Fonseka entered politics, he was a decorated war hero held in high esteem by the whole country and especially by the Sinhala public. Yet the present columnist was bold enough to predict that not only was he going to lose to Mahinda, but that he would not get even the votes polled by Ranil Wickremesinghe - the so called signer of the ceasefire agreement and the ‘betrayer’ of the country. In similar manner, what seems to be clear is that if the Mahanayakes seek to confront the present government, they are not going to come out on top. What last month’s presidential election showed in a magnitude unanticipated even by the present columnist is that there is an overarching national interest profoundly etched in the minds of the Sinhala Buddhist voter which they will pursue regardless of whoever opposes it. One thing that the people don’t want to see is the joint opposition which has just been resoundingly rejected by the people going to the Ven Mahanayake’s in a delegation and Rauff Hakeem telling the Mahanayakes that the opposition was now helpless - ‘asarana wela inne’ and asking the Mahanayake of the Malwatte chapter to start a process under his venerable leadership to restore democracy. This is precisely what they did to Sarath Fonseka as well. They went in delegation to him, and tried to use his credentials with the Sinhala public to further their own political project – and it did not succeed.
Having failed in that, they now go in delegation to the Ven Mahanayakes and tell them to assume leadership of their project. When the joint opposition meets the heads of foreign missions, that is always done behind closed doors. But when they meet the Mahanayakes, it’s always with TV crews in attendance. Over the past few weeks, how many times did we see members of the joint opposition going to see the Ven Mahanayake of the Malwatte chapter in particular, carrying tales (kelang) against the government? Never before have we ever had a situation in the country, where the opposition has tried to get the Mahanayakes to confront the government in this manner. But then again, never before have we had a situation where the opposition would get the senior most serving soldier in the Army to resign from active service to confront his own commander in chief! These are strange times when strange things happen. The people of this country and especially the Sinhala Buddhist public are not going to react positively to this attempt to recruit the Ven Mahanayakes to carry on from where Fonseka left off.
http://www.island.lk/2010/02/14/politics1.html
Ninja,
According to Nandana Gunatilake, Premakumar Gunarathnam the younger brother of Ranjithan is the de facto leader of JVP now. Apparently, Premakumar is living in Australia. Despite Premakumar's JVP Politburo membership, he was known to be a silent character in the engineering school of Pereadniya in late 80s. For a while I thought that Panhinda is the Premakumar. Nevertheless, it is interesting to see him ranked above Amanawansa Amnasingha.
Robert D Kaplan the respected foreign analyst, writing in "Foreign Affairs" in April last year on the subject of "21st Century Power Plays in the Indian Ocean" stated
"Already the world’s preeminent energy and trade interstate seaway, the Indian Ocean, will matter even more in the future. One reason is that India and China, major trading partners locked in an uncomfortable embrace, are entering into a dynamic great-power rivalry in these waters—a competition that the United States, although now a declining hegemon, can keep in check by using its navy to act as a sea-based balancer". He also stated "All of China’s and Japan’s energy resources from the Persian Gulf, as the report identifies, transits Sri Lanka and the island has the potential to control or impede the free flow these resources to China, an emerging global power, or to Japan, a strategic partner of the US.
Kaplan also wrote "Furthermore, half of the world’s container traffic passes through Sri Lanka and the island has again, as indicated before, the potential to control or impede the free flow of trade in the Indian Ocean. The island lends itself naturally to be an effective choke point, the control of which provides a strong bargaining platform in global rivalries; shades of Somalia where sea terrorists, often referred to as pirates, directed by some unidentified power, impede shipping in the Arabian Sea of the Indian Ocean".
http://www.island.lk/2010/02/14/features1.html
US policy on Sri Lanka was in fact crafted and articulated by Robert Blake who had a grudge to bear against this government, for he sought to take out Prabhakaran from this country through an operation by the US Marines based in Hawaii. Thanks to Defence Secretary Gotabhaya that failed, and that was a huge disappointment for Blake. After he assumed duties in Washington, one of his first acts was to meet Rudrakumaran and the Tamil Diaspora (his doors were always open to them). He has established a strong link with the Tamil Diaspora, so much so that he had the Diaspora supporting Fonseka, Blake’s choice for President, who has many times over insisted that Sri Lanka belongs to the Sinhalese. It was because of the Diaspora’s influence that the TNA supported Fonseka, and he who led the ground operations against the LTTE got more votes than President Rajapaksa in the North.
Blake as a reaction to protests over his honeymooning with the political arm of the LTTE offered to meet a group of Sinhala Lankans merely to claim that he was not taking sides; that of course did not wash with anyone. It would be recalled that before Eastern Provincial Council elections last year he even called on the Election Commissioner to tell him how to do his job. It is when diplomats like Blake overstep their limits, ignoring the bitter lessons of the past, that they are seen as putting their foot into the shoes of the Ugly American. Besides, he was stepping in to meddle in the results of a province, which was transformed from violent tyranny to a democracy. Whatever the shortcomings of the election may be, it stands out as a magnificent triumph for democracy. If further proof is necessary, the prestigious Hindu, hailed it as a victory of ballots over bullets.
http://www.island.lk/2010/02/14/features1.html
Fonseka's dog:
February 13, 2010 11:02 pm
Jefry ... Jefry... Dalmation dog that never attackec his Master Sarath... see people he trained his pet also to attack... this is how his mind and action is, see they are confessing his personality... bull dogs, pitt bulls any puppy with love and care, you can train them as freindly pets, when you poisioning with anger, hatetred, to attack others except him... see... apples don´t fall far from the tree..
Chani
February 14, 2010 12:02 am
I do not feel sorry for the Gen or his family at all. He is a number one traitor who betrayed arm forces as well as our country for power greed and money. Apsara and Aparna did not even go to see their father when he was in hospital until Gota arrange airline tickets for them to go visit their father. We know all about the love of this family. The Dalmation Dog - The story behind this Dog is that Gn Fonseka spent lot of goverment money to buy and maintain this dog. He ordered the army security and MA to keep separate vidoeo and albums before he buy the Dog. Then 3 people from Army staff to maintain the dog. Every time they brign the dog to the Gen They put purfumes to the dog because Gen will kick the dog and the trainer if the dog smell like a DOG??? I know in and out of this family and Anoma is acting silly. I think it time to reveal the truth. Even recently both of you claimes that your 2 daughters are studying. but they are working too. Did you tell any one that while they were working they were still taking the scholorship from President´s funds? As Gn Panipitya´s wife claimed yesterday your husband (Gen) punished Gen Panipitya because of the argument he had with Gen Fonseka while having a Drink? They were drinking buddies and Gen Punipitiya did not ageree with your husband for something he did - So he started punishing him and put him to jail. Now he is in jail because that´s where he belongs to.
Upul
Pol, the act by Mahanayakas is shameful. Chandraprema, in his Island column assume its getting some power and about restoring buddha sasana ministry.
I first tought it was cast, this may be still right.
Now the other mahanayakas are also pitching in, looks like the west has suceeded in breaking Sinhala Buddhists against their mahanayakas.
Diyasena said ..
[Thalaivar (piss be upon him) will return from Hellam before Ponseka apologises in public]
I love the invocation "piss be upon him" ... it is sooooo funny! LoL!
Pol Sambol, Ninja,
This Mahanayake thing really worries me.
The Mahanayake's mean well .. in their minds they are trying to get "Dutugamunu" anmd "Tissa" together to fight Sri Lanka's enemies. As you point out, they are undermining the Patriotic forces by falling into the trap laid by the Anti-National Forces. But, you see, patriotism aside, the clergy have dayakayo on both sides of the fence on whom they depend on for their existence. They need to eat too!
My worry comes from the fact that whatever the truth is, there is one truth in Sri Lanka: the Buddhist clergy have a strong hold on the Sinhala Buddhist mind. The Buddhist monks have generations of experience in using it, and Buddhist laymen are reluctant to oppose the clergy for fear of committing "paapakarma of sansaric proportions."
At this point, the "Dutugamunu" should go to the Mahanayake's with his "Dasa Maha Yodayos" ... on his knees as we are accustomed to .. and explain to them the issues at stake in terms of confronting Anti-National Forces and the security of the nation, and WIN THEM OVER. Buddhist priests too, you see, understand one thing well: they flourish whenever Sri Lanka is unified and secure.
The GOSL should not CONFRONT the Buddhist clergy, but should treat them as ALLIES, giving them a FIG leaf to hide behind, and take to opposition, if necessary just as "Dutugamunu" did, so that he can proceed with this great PATRIOTIC venture that lies before us.
Diyasena,
Oops! In my post to Pol and Ninja, I used the Dutugamunu-Tissa analogy, not realising that you had already pointed that out. Your counter example of Dhatusena-Migara is great!
Importance of the call by the Sanganayakas
Saturday, February 13, 2010
By Our Political Editor
(February 13, Colombo, Sri Lnaka Guardian)
The four chief monks of the leading orders of Buddhist monks in Sri Lanka have called for a gathering of all monks in the island on the 18th of February to deliberate on the disaster caused to the nation by undermining democracy and good governance in recent times. This historical call is of great significance in a majority Buddhist nation where the influence of Buddhist monks has been recognized as a major element in political, social and cultural life.
The text of the letter is as addressed to all monks. It reads as follows:
“We think that by now you would have grasped that a confused situation has arisen in the country regarding democracy and good governance. Our view is that this will create a disastrous situation for the future of our country.
In the face of this situation, it will not be right for us as Buddhist monks to remain silent. Since the ancient times the collective power of Buddhist monks has greatly contributed to the progress of the country, and you would agree that in the recent past this has come under some challengers.
Considering all these facts and with the view to undermine the chaotic situation, with the aim of establishing collective agreement to establish democracy and good governance, with the participation of all Buddhist monks spreads through out the country belonging to three great orders, to have special meeting of monks has being arrange on the 18th of February this year at 3 PM at historical Mahamaluwa of Kandy under the leadership of prelates of three Buddhist chapters have being arranged, we here by notified all monks to attend this meeting.
Signed
The prelates of the four Buddhist chapters –
Siyam Nikaya-Malwatte (Ven. Tibbotuwawe Sri Siddharatha Sumangala Thera), Siyam Nikaya-Asgiriya (Ven. Udugama Sri Ratnapala Buddharakitha Thera), Ramanna Nikaya (Venerable Weweldeniya Medalankara Thera), Amarapura (Ven. Dauldena Gananissara Thera)” - (This is a translation of the letter published in the Sri Lanka Guardian.)
Criticism
So far, the published criticism against the call for this meeting has come from the leading monk of Hella Urumaya, a political party associated with the ruling Rajapaksha government. The criticism of the leading monk Ellawala Meedananda is that the Mahanayakes were silent when there was real Viyasanaya (disaster) and that there is no Viyasanaya now in the country as spoken of by them. By “real Viyasanaya” he means the LTTE and, according to him, the Mahanayakes were silent about this. He explained why there is no Viyasanaya now. He says that during the time of King Vijeyabahu, there was a rebellion and that all the rebels were killed. He implies that destroying the opposition who does not want to cooperate with the government now is not a Viyasanaya but something that has to be done as it has been done by the kings in the past.
The view of Ellawala Meedananda may seem to reflect the government’s point of view about the great gathering of the monks called by the Mahanayakes. According to reports, two government ministers have been assigned to canvas the opinions of monks favorable to the government, with the view to disrupt the proceedings of the proposed meeting. The government’s official response to the meeting is yet to be seen
tbc..
Ananda, Pol, and Ninja
may be it is the time to increase the awareness of Malwathu-Asgiri prelates. MR should send somebody like Wimal or Rajitha who can eloquently explain the anti-SL stand of Ranil Wickramasnghe goons and their latest crash test dummy (no pun intended)Fonseka.
continued..
An official recognition by the Mahanayakes of the threat to democracy and good governance
This is the first recognition by the country’s leading Buddhist clergy of the threat to democracy and good governance that has been made officially. Perhaps the long years of the civil war kept the attention of everyone, including the leading Buddhist prelates, on the perceived threat to national security. The call for this meeting may be signaling the beginning of a new period of national consciousness, wherein problems of democracy and good governance may replace the theme of national security.
From time to time, particularly since 1978, leading monks have made comments on the threats faced by the country’s political system, which was shifting from a rule of law based democracy to a dictatorship which placed the executive presidency above the law. At the very inception of the executive presidential system, there were conflicts between JR Jayawardene and some well-known Buddhist monks on issues related to democracy. Some of them were suppressed very ruthlessly.
However, with the JVP’s second uprising in the late 1980s and the Tamil militancies since the early ‘80s, culminating in the final insurgencies led by the LTTE, the major concerns of the Buddhist clergy shifted to national security and willingness to support the ruling regimes at any cost in suppressing these rebellions. Even in the disappearances of over 30,000 youth persons, mostly Sinhalese, in the late ‘80s, the Buddhist prelates did not play much of a visible role in criticizing such actions. The overall concern for what was considered as a threat to national security subdued all other interests.
Under those circumstances, another extreme view emerged among some sections of Buddhists, who thought that there should be a return to the past style of ruling as during the times of the kings, and that in rejecting western influences, the very structure of democracy and the rule of law introduced by the British should also be wholesale rejected. This view went unchallenged as the overall perception of a threat to national security was the main preoccupation.
With the defeat of the LTTE in May 2009, perhaps the overall objective circumstances which gave priority to the national security concerns have ceased to exist. The dangers faced by the political system and the social life may be gaining recognition in the minds of all, including the majority community. Such recognition is quite visible in the statement of many Buddhist monks in recent times. Perhaps a collective agreement may be emerging to address the issues relating to the political system in the country. This may be what is reflected in the call for a great gathering of monks by the Mahanayakes.
Such gatherings are of historical importance. Perhaps the more learned and the wiser elements among the Buddhist clergy may have begun to perceive the overall threat that is facing the whole nation, including the problems faced by the minorities. If such wisdom is to emerge out of this great gathering, it would be hardly possible for any political party to ignore it.
JR Jayawardene, who introduced the executive presidential system, was quoted as saying that the only force that he feared was the emergence of the yellow robes in the streets. Perhaps he was aware of the historical role played by the monks in the past. Whether that moment is now emerging, even belatedly, to threaten the system introduced by JR Jayawardene through the 1978 constitution, is yet to be seen.
The emergence of a religious wisdom under trying circumstances have contributed to alter disastrous turns and to generate more positive turns in history. Perhaps Sri Lanka may be in the process of witnessing such a situation.
This is for the benefit of readers in SL as Sri Lankan Guardian is blocked.
Interesting article by DBSJ. Looks like someone has given him some good information.
Ninja,
I am amazed by the fact that Malwathu and Asgiri prelates are totally oblivious to the treacherous acts by Fonseka, Ranil, Mangala, Rauf, and Mano. I simply wish that Rev. Wariyapola Sri Sumangala is here today to address the situation. Rev. Wariyapola Sri Sumangala simply would have shown the exit door of the Asgiriya Temple to all the white man worshiping scum flocking their to further their anti SL cause hiding behind our sacred temples.
Mahanayakas urge Fonseka’s release
What a pity, I wish that we had Reverends Wariyaopla Sri Sumangala and Migettuwaththe Gunananda are here today. It is rather unfortunate that the current prelates can't distinguish the difference between Sadda Tissa and Migara. The patriotic spirit of Wariyapola Sumangala, who stood last ground against western meddlers, seems long gone these days. The spirit that Migettuwaththe Gunananda had to defeat religious fundamentalists seem long gone among prelates too.
What went on in his mind in those final moments? Those who knew him say that when he saw those men approaching his car he would have known immediately that his time was up. Can anyone, including Mrs. Fonseka, imagine the terror and the anguish that must have gone through his mind then? Did Mr. Wickrematunge have the benefit of being allowed to summon legal help or indeed any help for that matter? His mobile telephone was in his hands – was he so much as permitted to make a call…
Sunday Leader (14/02)Cry Sri Lanka, Cry
Seems like Sunday Leader is leaning towards to accepting Government version on LW's murder.
Gathering steam against prelates retuning from Oblivion.
Somawansa Amarasinghe was almost eloquent in his description of what he termed “the humiliation and degrading treatment” meted out to the General. That is almost rich for a man who leads a party that has been acknowledged to be one that inflicted immense terror on an unsuspecting public not so long ago. Yet he speaks of the anguish of the Fonsekas. What thoughts did Somawansa Amarasinghe have for the female victim during the time in the mid 1970’s when Sarath Fonseka was charged for conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman, in charge number 0/050/536? It is said that the victim to-date suffers acute mental trauma caused by that incident. Her suffering continues to this date despite those events taking place on Christmas Day 1975.
Political expediency
Same Article: Accepting the Rape allegations against SF.
Why Now? This cannot be a sudden urge for justice?
Even if mahanayakas are jobless they should stay in temple - should not be UNP spokesmen.
Buddhist follow buddhas teaching with own judgment.. own freedom on judgment.. unlike some other religions followers who look for Gods local agents instructions..
However its not bad at least now mongal, hakeem and UNPers going temple and worshiping monks.. Indeed good...
Ninja said...
UNP know very well that this Gonseka arrest could be used as a tool to attack SLFP vote base which is mostly rural-buddhist. They have found the easy way - using mahanayakas.
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WTF, are these mahanayakas getting paid by UNP? In the past Sanga was responsible for saving the nation, but seem like the times have changed.
How the coup attempt foiled
However, the government says that it has evidence in its possession that a group of retired and serving army officers including General Fonseka had conspired to assassinate President Rajapaksa, Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa and several others and also arrest another large number of VIPs in a coup bid to overthrow the government.
The alleged conspirators had prepared lists of heads of government institutions to be arrested and another group of officials to be sacked. Government sources also say that the alleged conspirators had hatched a separate plot on the election day night after having learnt that General Fonseka was heavily losing, to get a senior elections department official to announce the General as the winner. This was to be done after getting the Elections Commissioner arrested by an army detail for holding him prisoner at Waters Edge hotel to make way for computerising the manipulated elections results.
The group of conspirators, allegedly led by General Fonseka, had reserved 70 suites in Hotel Cinnamon Lakeside as part of their preparations to set up an Operations Room and a Secretariat for the time being. According to government sources, there is evidence that they had also put in place an arrangement to transmit the manipulated election results to foreign media through a group of foreign journalists and they had secured satellite telephone facility too for the purpose.
The leaders of political parties in the joint opposition alliance had not been privy to the coup attempt. The General had shared the secret only with a handful of intimates. However, one of these intimates had spilled the beans to a government minister who had immediately apprised the higher authorities of the impending disaster. The troops surrounded the Hotel Cinnamon Lakeside later in the same night and thus, the conspiracy was nipped in the bud.
Now we know where this "election commissioner held at gun point" and "compute jillmart" came from.
When Janaral was loosing by around 11pm on election nigh) he disappeared for hours leaving the media waiting.
Government sources also say that the alleged conspirators had hatched a separate plot on the election day night after having learnt that General Fonseka was heavily losing, to get a senior elections department official to announce the General as the winner. This was to be done after getting the Elections Commissioner arrested by an army detail for holding him prisoner at Waters Edge hotel to make way for computerising the manipulated elections results.
The group of conspirators, allegedly led by General Fonseka, had reserved 70 suites in Hotel Cinnamon Lakeside as part of their preparations to set up an Operations Room and a Secretariat for the time being. According to government sources, there is evidence that they had also put in place an arrangement to transmit the manipulated election results to foreign media through a group of foreign journalists and they had secured satellite telephone facility too for the purpose.
http://www.nation.lk/2010/02/14/politics.htm
"Udugama Sri Buddharakkitha was well known as a supporter of UNP for a long time."
fully agree.
i don't think this type of dirty ppl command any respect.
he is another gonzeka.
asking GR and SF to patch up is total crap.
as we have seen MANY TIMES gonz suffers from the same multipolar disorder our friend xx suffers.
1. once xx and OAOA were fighting in DW. being friendly with both (still i am), i wanted them to stop. never told them to patch up.
OAOA stopped but xx didn't. then obviously OAOA restarted it.
then at last xx agreed to stop attacking.
i was relieved.
but then he created new profiles and attacked OAOA as b4.
2. then about a month ago xx reached out to ananda in a surprise move. he sounded a gentleman and a "buddhist". we were all glad. ananda was quick to reciprocate and was full of praise of xx.
but then xx created another profile and started attacking ananda.
this is same that will happen IF GR patches up with SF.
this is same that will happen if we patch up with tamil elamists.
in a compromise on an uncompromisable subject matter, the party that does not compromise wins. - (c)md(j)
(Exclusive) A shocking and sensational revelation Asian Tribune learnt that when the then General Sarath Fonseka made an official visit to Washington in his capacity as the Chief of Defence Staff on October 24, 2009, he had clandestine meetings with the top agents of US Department of State and Department of Homeland Security.
During those4 meeting with those agents, he handed over, it was reported, classified documents regarding the final phase of the war with Tamil Tigers in Vanni, and specially prepared CDs depicting the vivid scenarios of the encounters with the Tigers including the shooting down of LTTE leader Velupillai Prabhakaran and his family members, by a leading LTTE member who agreed to work for Government at the last stages of the battle and the doing away of many other important leaders.
According to sources in USA, it was learnt that Sarath Fonseka met discreetly and those Agents had several rounds of talks with him at a secret location and assured that he will be safeguarded in any future action taken up against Sri Lanka Government and charged in any war crimes Tribunal.
Also it was agreed that to begin with, Sarath Fonseka would resign his position, and contest against the incumbent President Mahinda Rajapaksa .
The American agents agreed to foot the election expenses. It was planned by a victory in the Presidential election or by any other means Mahinda Rajapaksa and his family would be eliminated. Also the Agents assured him that the international community would be behind him.
Subsequently a drama was staged of Fonseka giving his consent to meet the officials of the US Department of Homeland Security (DHS) at its Oklahoma office on November 4, which put the Sri Lanka Government off the hook.
Subsequently, he was allowed to leave Washington and he travelled back to Colombo on the 4th November 2009.
After coming back to Sri Lanka the first thing he did was to visit the US Embassy in Colombo and meet the controversial US Ambassador in Colombo Patricia A. Butenis and the detail of the meeting is still not revealed.
As planned in Washington on 12 November 2009, Sarath Fonseka tendered his resignation from the Army as Chief of Defence Staff to contest in the election against Sri Lanka President Mahinda Rajapaksa.
The main leaders of the Opposition were already contacted by the US agents to accommodate Sarath Fonseka as their common candidate against Mahinda Rajapaksa.
http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2010/02/14/shocking-revelation-what-fonseka-did-u-s-asian-tribune%E2%80%99s-timely-alerts-changed-cours
PS,
very much possible.
as we noted b4, one SALIENT characteristic of gonzeka is to "blame the other party for wrongs he commit/plan to commit".
so it was his underworld army deserters who planned to take the EC hostage.
this worked perfectly during the war but not now.
Moshe, what do you think of the Nation aricle? Considering Gonseka's ability to lie it comes as no surprise that all that bs he used to excuse his defeat was indeed his own plan. It suits his nature.
Ah perfect timing Moshe! :))
Yeah, the "white flags" story to SundayLeader is no doubt more of the same.
He probably "planned" that when he was in the US, he did want revenge on Gota.
Also he never went to the courts to challenge the results. You would think that is the first thing to do, instead of thinking about GE and showing some monks "thrown away" ballot papers, why not show it to a court? Most likely those were fakes he produced himself (clearly not enough to win OR challenge the result). He simply had no evidence so resorted to spreading propaganda. Unfortunately for him suddha's media were not instructed to follow suit.
Moshe I have noted before our X's tendency to offer Olive branch a person just before attacking the person.
Pol Sambol said...
According to government sources, there is evidence that they had also put in place an arrangement to transmit the manipulated election results to foreign media through a group of foreign journalists and they had secured satellite telephone facility too for the purpose.
( nation.lk)
From BBC Sin – 27th Jan
The BBC's Anbarasan Ethirajan, who had been in the same hotel as Gen Fonseka and other opposition leaders, says the troops' presence had created a very tense atmosphere.
Just a Coincidence?
SU,
apply that to gonzeka and we have a VERY DANGEROUS situ.
apparently just days b4 the 25 dec 1975 incident, gonz had agreed not to go out at night to visit prostitutes.
cyril ranatunga had thought what a good boy!!!
gonz was eyeing the new woman who came to the quarters. that is why he agreed to "give up" his bad ways.
if GR accepts gonz's "apology (WHICH I'M 100% SURE WILL COME ANY DAY SOON THAT WILL HAVE SOME IDIOTS DRIPING WITH SYMPATHY!!!), GR, MR, BR, NR, SR, YR, RR, etc. are finished.
this is a very evil ABILITY. i have heard of a woman who befriended her arch enemy (this was in the news) and showed to be a TRUE friend. in fact she many times helped the family of her unsuspecting friend GENUINELY. when there was a family tragedy she stayed in their house, shared their grief and even cooked their meals. they were soooo touched by her. only to poison them without their knowledge for a LONG TIME with slow working poison.
on a personal level i've met a man who identified such a character at his workplace and mercilessly abused him verbally when he tried to show this "tamilchelvam friendliness". i was puzzled but later understood this man's farsighted thinking.
when such a MF is openly attacking you, YOU ARE LUCKY!!!
What is the Ranil's purpose of meeting MR?
Why did Sf just before this meeting ask people and troops to stay calm?
Was it another olive branch just before attack?
Was is it an effort to lull MR into false sense of security?
Or is it an effort to cut a deal while playing bluffs?
Moshe you and I have posted similar thoughts simultaneously.
PS,
i think it is possible.
gonz's REMARKABLE quality of NOT GIVING UP works in a bad way when it is NOT WAR.
but gonz knowing ONLY WAR, cannot think beyond that.
even when accidently his wife blows out a flame in temple which he lighted up, gonz thinks she had an argument with him last night and now she "retaliates" him by allowing the flame to die down.
he then opens his oil bottle and pours oil all over her to the shock of onlookers.
same with the roti thing.
he thinks the cook disrespects him by not preparing a perfect roti.
the barber story and the egg hopper story are the same.
he sees a war in everything under the sun. a fantastic attitude for the war but a disaster elsewhere.
SU,
these things are getting too obvious now for everyone.
it is common ANTI SOCIAL behaviour gonz displays. identifying it first is a skill.
i give you full credit for earlier detection.
but watchout mate, you may "suffer" (couldn't find the right word) from the inability to change your INITIAL DIAGNOSIS later even when it is required. (may not be applicable here)
:)
again spot on about RW.
another "smiling ass-ass-in"
but a little bit dumb that he falls in the same trap his lays for others!!! ALWAYS. he seems to like it.
Moshe thanks for advice. I suffer a great deal even a little hurt I might cause to another person inadvertantly. So I am careful. In the politicians' case they should be judged in the political arena the perceptions that they deliberately create or allowed to be created by omission or commission.
If I make a wrong judgment about a politician then a public apopogy will do where as making a wrong judgment about a friend cannot be compensated just by a simple apology. I will suffer in that case.
I am infallibel enoug to assume that I am always fallible.
Thanks for the kind words.
SF's case is not a complex case. It is a classic example of extreme ego-centrism.
Who the FukkFace are these people?
Sri Lankans in Los Angeles, California, engaged in a spontaneous protest rally to show solidarity with the recently arrested common Presidential candidate (Rtd) Gen. Sarath Fonseka
http://www.colombopage.com/archive_10/Feb1266098949CH.html
Fukking bitches and bastards, I am sure they are NOT all thamileelam whores.
Likely these whores are accomplices of SF-whoredog in his corrupt military procurement practices (employees of HiCorp perhaps?) and I hope our CID has stored their pictures for future reference.
FF,
They are UNP and JVP dumbasses
In London and Italy they joined up with Tamiz die-ass-pora to protest on February 4th outside SL HCs
These tards outnumbered the Tamiz tards "protesting" in Italy.
JVP monkeys were also doing monkey dances in Tokyo.
My Comment at The Economist
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Sinna Siththar,
I have read a sufficient number of your comments to arrive at a CLEAR perception of your motivations and your flawed understanding of patriotism for personal and emotional reasons which have blinded you against President Rajapaksa. That means that you have over looked justice, fair play, rule of law, human rights and democracy, duty of to defend and protect all people of one's country, and to assure their prosperity now and far into the future.
I am not wedded to any political party, except to whoever will deliver a unified, secure, democratic, prosperous Sri Lanka to EQUALLY benefit ALL of its Sinhala, Tamil, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, and Christian peoples.
I have no personal or financial attachment to President Rakjapaksa or his family; there is only my permanent attachment to Sri Lanka and the welfare of ALL of its people, including my own extended family.
Confronted by Sri Lanka's pain and suffering, I have wept in the wilderness for 30 long years, searching for a few leaders to emerge in Sri Lanka to do what the Rajapaksa's have done, and are doing.
Now that a team of such capable patriotic leaders have emerged to propel Sri Lanka into the first rank of countries in the world, I say Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu! to the Holy Triple Gem of Buddhism, and support these leaders to the fullest.
In my own little way I am helping to FRUSTRATE all enemies of Sri Lanka who are trying to engineer a "Regime Change," and resurrect the chaos that prevailed before the present Government was elected in 2005.
We need this can-do government in power for another decade at least to realize those objectives.
Jayawewa, Sri Lanka!
http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?mode=head&nid=145
Sri Lankans living in Canadastaged a demonstration today in front of Sri Lanka High Commission office in Ottawa. This protest was organized by the “Campaign for Democracy in Sri Lanka- Canada” to protest against the allegedly illegal arrest of the (RTRD) General Sarath Fonseka who was the main opposition’s political candidate of the last month’s presidential election.
How is his arrest "illegal"?
What the hell is "Campaign for Democracy in Sri Lanka- Canada"?
Where were these tards last year?
Whats the bet that amongst them are our die-ass-pora donkeys?
FukkFace,
Who the FukkFace are these people?
Given the fact that Sri Lankans in LA area exceed 50,000, this looks like a gathering of Dandulena's HiCorp buddies.
http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2010/02/14/arresting-fonseka-was-right-%E2%80%93-and-legal-%E2%80%93-thing-do
Supreme Joker & Clown Karuna-nidhi WARNS Sri Lanka while his own state remains a Cauldron of Discrimination
Is there ANYONE who thinks we don't need a STRONG DEFENCE FORCE?
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Karuna warns Rajapaksa on devolution of powers
February 14, 2010
CHENNAI: Chief Minister M Karunanidhi on Saturday warned that the DMK would not be a mere spectator if the Rajapaksa government in Sri Lanka failed to honour the promise for devolution of powers to Tamils.
Writing for Murasoli, Karunanidhi said, “in a democracy it would only be fair to honour and fulfil poll promises. If Rajapaksa fails to honour the promise and tries to delay it, the DMK will not be just watching it. We will take up the issue and urge the Centre to do the needful.”
Referring to arrest of former Lankan Army chief Sarath Fonseka, Karunanidhi said the Lankan President should not forget the history. In this regard, he recalled how Alexander the Great had treated King Porus after the latter’s fall.
Karunanidhi had used the same analogy, when there were reports that LTTE leader Velupillai Prabakaran wanted to surrender after the island government launched a massive attack against the Tigers.
He denied the charge of AIADMK general secretary J Jayalalithaa that he was trying to create an illusion that Chief Election Commission had acted in her favour. “In fact, Jayalalithaa had created such an impression by stating that Chawla had invited her and asked her to sit along with VVIPs during the diamond jubilee celebrations of the Election Commission,” he said.
ass clowns of tamil madu threatening SL.
they want SL to create a tamil madu in SL.
what can they do??
go begging to indian hindi speaking leaders, lick their arses and beg?????
one thing gonzeka got right was to identify tamil madu idiots as ass clowns. although he opened his mouth at the wrong time.
Moshe,
As I suspected, all that Fonseka drama happened in USA appear to be staged according to AT. The timing of Fonseka's visit, US Security Department's attempt to interview him (according to Fonseka), Fonseka's DC temple speech, and his bitter resignation after coming back did not appear random events at all. Even those bogus war crime allegations at Sunday Leader appeared a bit out of place. Hopefully, we will see the full picture soon.
I will contest the general election on behalf of general Fonseka in case he is not released
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Hehe. This is what I said as soon as I saw Anomas kibul Kadhulu. Typical and expected. Nothing new.
So, bloggers here still think we have seen end of SF.
thusitha,
don't get too excited. that slut contesting the election was known b4. and it won't change ANYTHING.
at least now there won't be those 1,500 army deserters to do election violence.
almsot 2 months to GE.
we can't keep gonzeka for 2 months in remand.
he WILL be charged.
then this plan will MORE than backfire. UNP will then try to HIDE the vesi. she had validated her US visa and this will be another issue.
POSSIBLY (not certain) over this the UNP district nominations list CAN be rejected also. that would be a double whammy.
sam,
yes.
this is a total bastard.
we suspected this.
IF USDHS was interested in GR's 'warcrimes' do you thing gonzeka would hesitate a second to tell them????
what nonsense. bugger had openly told everyone about GR's 'warcrimes'.
gonzekais such a dumb fool that he doesn't keep a track of his lies.
guys,
you won't believe this!!
you will simply not beleive this!!
lovely!
as you know tamil elam racists around the world launched a boycot SL campaign.
the first to respond were SL spice shops owned by tamil elamists. most tamil shops are owned by tamil elamists as they get a cut of LTTE fundraising which was channeled through them.
BUT they ALWAYS bought SL goods from tamil elamist exporters in SL!!
almost NOTHING from "chingala" companies.
you may have noticed this in their crap shops.
now when the boycot came, they stopped buying.
who suffered????
tamil elam exporters in colombo-11. now the buggers go cursing to mano gonason sakkiliya!!! lovely.
now most of these dubious tamil elamist SL spice exporters have gone bankrupt!!
but non-tamil elamists shops always stocked sri lankan goods including those from non-tamil elamist exporters in SL.
e.g. MD brand, araliya, etc.
they are doing well.
you should do your bit to ACCELERATE their total downfall.
BOYCOT!
boycot spice, etc. stuff from dubious colombo-11 exporters sold in your asian spice shop.
this way we can TOTALY drive them out of business.
Sinhalese direct Tamil education in East
[TamilNet, Sunday, 14 February 2010, 02:01 GMT]
this crap toilet report is not true. it says 90% of schools, 90% students, 90% teachers in eastern province are tamil speaking.
WRONG.
according to 2007 population estimate.
s - 22%
t - 41%
m - 38%
mind you this was based on info BEFORE the LTTE wipeout in 2007. also a sizable number of boat ppl, etc. left the country from batticaloa.
plus colonization schemes started in 2009. these changed the above statistics which are actually based on the 1981 census +/- other available info for trinco and batti.
anyway EVEN IF the above numbers are assumed correct, there is a HUGE move in the EAST (and the north too) to learn sinhala. to do business, to pass from checkpoints, to do business with other parts of the country, sinhala is essential. especially muslims are VERY VERY keen to learn.
this is why the govt has to put the sinhala teaching infrastructure in place in the east.
if 75% of muslims in the east start speaking in sinhala, the east becomes a sinhala speaking province. that will SOON happen.
38% * 75% = 28%
22% + 28% = 50%
this happened in colombo too.
e.g. in 1970s 90% of colombo zahira students were studying in tamil medium.
today almost 95% of them study in sinhala medium.
its the same thing spreading to the east.
toiletnet is looking at everything from a racist pov. but their days in the east are truely numbered now.
my above explanation is even easier to understand by looking at the PE results in the east.
SL nationalists - 41%
tamil elamists - 59%
this 59% is actualy not fully tamil elamists. SLMC block vote unfortunately went into this shitt.
anyway even with it, the shift required is ONLY 9%.
this is nothing especially now the LTTE is no more.
..hic..
Oh! that accounts for why Lihinya the lankan Grocery Store in North London shut down and Lihinya Restuarant next door been visited by Health & Safety Officials
Angry US summons envoy
Protest over Fonseka’s arrest, Gota charges
By Anthony David
The United States has lodged strong protests with Sri Lanka over the arrest of opposition presidential candidate retired General Sarath Fonseka and remarks attributed to Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa that the US funded the opposition’s campaign.
Sri Lanka’s Ambassador Jaliya Wickremasuriya was summoned to the State Department in Washington to be handed a protest note over the two issues. Robert Blake, US Assistant Secretary for Near East and Central Asian Affairs, told Mr. Wickremasuriya the US Government was deeply concerned over the two issues.
US Embassy spokesperson Jeff Anderson declined to comment. “I am sorry I cannot say anything on the matter,” he said yesterday. However, a Foreign Ministry source in Colombo confirmed Ambassador Wickremasuriya was summoned to the State Department to be handed a protest note.
The Singapore-based Straits Times quoted Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa as saying that the United States and Norway had funded Gen. Fonseka’s campaign for the January 26 presidential election.In separate statements, both the US and the norwegian Embassies in Colombo denied the accusations.
Foreign Minister Rohita Bogollagama on Friday met Valerie C. Fowler, Deputy Chief of Mission of the United States Embassy in Sri Lanka. Ambassador Patricia Butenis is out of the country.
Foreign Ministry sources said Mr. Bogollagama explained the circumstances under which Gen. (retd.) Fonseka was arrested by the Military Police. He has said the General was being dealt with under the Army Act.
Re: my previous post US Authorities are taking a "special" interest in what GR says and does.
jay whore,
that's just 2 and more than 2 news ones may have come up elsewhere.
but more than 20 tamil elamist owned shaby export companies in col-11/col-12 closed down. many more to follow. they were doing quite well.
our interest is in SL not in UK.
"Speaker, W.J.M. Lokubandara's son, W.J.M. Udith Sanjaya Lokubandara, who holds a PhD in Marketing, is planning to contest in the General Election from Badulla District under the ruling party United People's Freedom Alliance."
wjm lokbandara has a particular way of pronouncing his name. he goes as,
wijamu lokubandara
going by the same token his son's name would pronounced,
wijamu usa (tall) lokubandara. he is anyway taller than WJML. he was working at IBM.
this is a dream come true. i mentioned this here as a priority for the govt. glad they follow this strategy. thank you.
"The party says it plans to introduce young popular personalities amongst the public, to contest the forthcoming general election as a part of the President's plan to give priority to the younger generation to make a vital contribution to the progress of the country."
On Friday night (12 Feb 2010)plain clothes "trackers" visited the family home of a school(STC) friend of Namal Rajapakse.
Having searched the family home they took away a computer which allegedly contained photographs of Namal Rajapakse that has been attached to emails that have been circulating recently.
http://sundaytimes.lk/100214/News/nws_06.html
China, Zimb, Burma, Iran and now SL
Chinese here for cyber censorship
http://sundaytimes.lk/100214/News/nws_02.html
Rajapakse regime is a bundle of "criminal" contradictions
http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/02/post_496.html
Welcome to Dr Rajapakse's second term.
hic..
..juggernaut rolls on with traitors here, traitors there and traitors everywhere..
The above is quite relevant for this blog.
Moshe Dyan said...
thusitha,
at least now there won't be those 1,500 army deserters to do election violence.
almsot 2 months to GE.
we can't keep gonzeka for 2 months in remand.
he WILL be charged.
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Still don't believe you. Lets wait and see, how long Gov will hold SF.
I hope the patriots will read this,taken from the Lanka Web with respect to road blocks in Kandy.
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2010/02/13/in-kandy-roads-are-closed-flyovers-in-other-areas-a9-is-also-open/
It seems the Presidents attempts to remove these unpopular road blocks were prevented by these prelates just to make the Rajapakse Administration unpopular with the Kandy electorate.We the party workers appealed to remove this and seems to have fallen on the deaf ears.This article explains the mystery behiend this roadblock.Though the incumbent of Malwatte is a good man as we knew him from the days he was in charge of the Ridhigama temple where he was an enormous help during the troubles in 1988/9 where our Estate in that area was paralyzed by labour disputes and stoppages.But I can't say the same with the Asgiriya man who is an Udugama as one of his fake relatives with the name of Udugama,in fact a Tamil man had taken Trinity collage to courts claiming half the that property.They too tried to claim the Asgiriya international cricket grounds which is so absurd and ridiculous.failing with they along with the former CJ got the government to cancel the PR visa of our good friend Rod Gilbert,siting as a ltte supporter and was asked to leave the country within a week.Rod was a good man who brought back discipline to that collage,which had crumpled for two decades,where while we were there one of it's such bad students severely beat up two police officers President guarding CBK when she was visiting the Mahaweli reach hotel and these poor officers were hospitalized with injuries.I was there when the magistrate released this thug.To me it looks like the UNP has a strong presence in Kandy and doing everything to discredit the government at the same time trying to embarrass us the supporters of the government.President must get rid of the white elephant which is the Maligawa police station and the absurd road block where the innocent nurses of the hospital next to it have to walk the dangerous stretch around the lake,infested with muggers,thieves and rapist and molesters.
Re; The mahanayake theros
The Asgiri-Malwathu theros are not such a big factor..Most of their followers are upper class govigamas who vote UNP..Th ordinary Kandyan from Hewaheta or Udu-dumbara have faith in the Dalada-hamudurowo, not their guardians..
However the turnabout of the Amarapura Nikaya is worrysome..From the time of Madihey thero the Amarapua nikaya did a sterling service against political attempts to create eelam 9package etc.)..Most of the temples in the deep south, uva and the east are Amaparapura temples, and they do have some sway over their dayakayas..Being a man from the south MR should consult the Amarapura nikaya first
My personal view is that the caste-based nikaya system is against the fundamentals of Buddhism..I strongly believe MR being 'Thrisinhaladeeshwara' should call a sasana sanhodanaya (like great kings before him) and unite the three nikayas into one Sinhala/ Lankaeeya Bhikkhu vansaya..
However, first things first..The president should respond to the letter..He should clearly define how the past misdeeds of Karuna/pilliayan defer from those of SF..Then he should clearly say that if SF is to be pardoned, HE MUST MAKE A PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMNT (AND SWEAR UPON HIS LIFE)FROM THE NATHA DEVALAYA, IN THE PRESENCE OF ALL FOUR PRESLATES, THAT NEITHER THE SRI LANKAN TROOPS NOR THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP EVER COMIITED (OR CONSIDERED COMMITING) WAR CRIMES OR ANY OTHER UNTOWARD ACTIONS IN DEFENDING THE MOTHERLAND AND THE SASANA
I think the prelates, bishops mustn’t get involved in advising or threatening the incumbent leader running the country, as they are not qualified legally or otherwise and they could give their opinion privately just as an ordinary citizen.Politicans are only accountable to the people and not to the faiths or will be sleep walk into a Taliban like state.
We should have to prosecute the likes of Karuna for his war crimes and likewise the law must deal with SF if he had tried to grab power illegally.MR is absolutely right to reassure RW that they should let the law of the land pursue this affair of SF to the end and if found guilty the courts will decide and not the President. The web picture of both MR and RW shows the body language of both parting amicably. President should not use his powers to pardon wrongdoers whoever close they are to his administration and to do is to bring disrepute to him and the country.
ENRON chairman over 80 years old, a friend of President Bush was found guilty and sent to prison. He wasn’t pardoned or favoured and that should be a lesson to all politicians in the world.
Is Kalawedda eating well..? Perfect round bullseye?
/Then he should clearly say that if SF is to be pardoned,../
To get pardoned first he need to be guilty. If court finds he is not guilty nothing to pardon. For that GSL need to proceed following procedures.
/He should clearly define how the past misdeeds of Karuna/pilliayan defer from those of SF/
If mahanayakas have any issue with karuna/pilliyan they should go to court. Why these mahanayakas don't follow the law? They are not above the law.
If mahanayakas love Gonseka this much they better make him a monk... And we will soon see new mahanayaka...
/However, first things first..The president should respond to the lette../
First thing MR should do is send some good doctors mahanayakas to get their heads checked.. May be these mahanayakas smoking some thing given by UNP visitors..
Typical "raised sarong" mode.
I'm astonished that a few bloggers have now started attacking religious leaders, be they Buddhist, Hindu, Muslim or Christian and some comments are totally unwarranted.
Why share these views now?
It's like Gota knew all along who killed Lasantha he has now gain his memory.
I agree religious leaders should stay out of politics.
The following was posted by me on SLDF and it disappeared without trace.
[Response by Sinna Siththar to
Ananda-Sinha on Economist.com
You haven't read all my comments; therefore your understanding of what I have been driving at is not only a puzzle for you but an anathema.
I take exception when you use Buddhism to cover your narrow nationalistic and dictatorial tendencies as does your much praised much loved "National Leader". Buddha renounced state power to become a Sadhu. In your case, anything goes as long as the ruler is sustained irrespective of all forms of violations. In my case I continue to object to all forms of killings and human rights violation irrespective of caste, ethnicity, and religious affiliation. Therefore I thing I am not in agreement with you. The most important thing is your blind loyalty and attachment to impermanent. Follow the eightfold path, not the path of your leaders who continue to bring Dukka to themselves by their own aversion to wisdom, ethical conduct and Mental Discipline.
Physical destruction of people and properties which you may consider the path to liberation or unification which are diametrically opposite to eightfold path. Further you may be talking about Dhamma one of triple gems, but most of us who were born in the island have been practicing it every single second of the day except the politicians and their lackeys who lack the knowledge of Dhamma. Therefore please first you make an effort to learn Buddhism in its entirety practice it realise some form of wisdom and teach your leaders who are in permanent Dukka causing death and destruction. A spell in the forest might help you in this endeavour. If you need help I am happy to join you. Preaching Buddhism is for those who believe in Thiri Karna Suththi (purity and harmony of mind, words and action) not who are permanently in Dukka.
You may have heard about Buddhism but please stop pretending being a Buddhist. You need a lot of learning and practice to become a good Buddhist, I can wait until then to discuss Buddhism with you. You have stated your opinion, when will the Buddhist voice their concerns?
People in the island are and have been united in their culture, shared history, economic activities until your leaders put the whole country to chaos with their twisted sense of belonging and narrow nationalism. Time to time there had been class caste compromises which did not take into account of the primary concerns of the people or their well beings.
For you the country is unified, but for the people the island is divided as has been in the past 100 years. The division was engineered by your leaders in various stages of post independence political machination. The division is temporary but the politicians and your leaders forced it on people so that they could enjoy the trappings of state power at any cost.
Respect for “unity in diversity” is the only “middle path” to unite the people, and not your leaders’ past and present ways, which brings only “Dukka” to themselves.
Jayawewa to which Sri Lanka?
Militarist, Terrorist (both Sinhala and Tamil), Facists, Nationalist (both Sinhala and Tamil), Murderers, those who pawned the country to child sex tourists, thugs who are ministers and in parliament, corrupt officials and politicians who made wealth from merchants of death, I am not sure which Sri Lanka you are referring to.
"Buddham saranam kacchami.
Dhammam saranam kacchami.
Sangham saranam kacchami."
Please let me know if you want to learn the meaning of the above chanting. I am only too happy to oblige.]
Ouch!
To coin a favourite song of mine..
Everybody Hurts...
Jay Haan the terrorist Monkey,
Yes, the country is unified but the divide will be there as long as you ask for th eownership of the things you don't have sole rights. Give up your views of separatism and try to live like a Sri Lankan without demanding a separate political unit based on ethnicity. Until then you will get zero, zepo, nothing. We don't claim an inch of land for one ethnic group's exclusive use, neither we will give an inch of our land for one ethnic groups exclusive use. Be it one or thousand more Prabakarans, terrorist monkeys like you will get absolutely nothing other than Nanthikadals as much as you like.
jay whore,
you are getting desperate like the nanthikandal iron rod in arse relative of yours.
your comments are cheap political attacks, nothing more.
that too MERE opinions of others.
diyasena,
should NEVER do that mate.
do you think gonz has ANY respect or fear for gods???
i don't think so.
thusitha,
of course. we are 100% confident we can frame him for MULTIPLE charges.
all the jokers are now crying knowing this very well.
they will ONLY cry until gonz is charged.
the same thing happened in the case of SB.
when SB was remanded and then charged, the prelates demanded that he be pardoned. CBK and MR didn;t do it.
finally MR pardoned him not bcos the prelates but bcos it was useful in politics.
gonz MUST be sent behind bars.
allowing him to roam free is a threat to national security from many fronts.
we could followed your preferred method in the case of vezapillai too. but we persisted.
a lesson for fonseka????
"An 86 year old man in Ambalangoda today sat for the Buddhist Dhamma school final year exam with students over 60 years younger than him. The retired worker, P. Richard, is himself a Dhamma school teacher but had not sat for his final exam."
kevin,
good article.
that's not all.
even the president could not save the 2 baby elephants and their 2 mother elephants from the REQUIREMENTS of some prelates.
ppl in SL put country b4 religion.
e.g. in 1964 when the world buddhist leader dalai lama was due in SL, suddenly his visa was cancelled by the govt. on the insistence of china. and ppl had no problem with that.
tsk! tsk! tsk!
[Jay Haan the terrorist Monkey]
[jay whore]
If it helps you name calling, insults so be it.
If there is anything sadder than a cause so intellectually and morally bankrupt that it can only be supported by attacking its critics instead of their arguments… it’s a cause where even the ad hominem attacks are entirely invented.
govt leanrt a lesson in the north.
we said so!!!!
there is NO POINT developing the north without making it multiethnic FIRST.
stupid BR put the cart b4 the horse and got screwed at the election.
at last now they have got brains. they have stopped all EXAGGERATED development work in the north now.
welfare, development in the north should be TARGETED if done b4 making it multiethnic.
ONLY areas/families/persons recommended by the EPDP leader SPECIFICALLY must be benefitted in MOST development, welfare schemes.
the rest of the money is BETTER INVESTED in the south than waste in the north for no votes in return.
jay whore,
how morally and politically bankrupt are you????
your BULLSHIT predictions about the PE never materialised. now you are desperate. what's with your CRAZY WEEPING SOUNDS????
read your own comments about how you vilify namal rajapaksha!!!
seems that you can't keep a track of your own doings!!
Jay the Terrorist Monkey,
If there is anything sadder than a cause so intellectually and morally bankrupt that it can only be supported by attacking its critics instead of their arguments
We all know that you are a terrorist scum who is hiding behind a fake intellectual veneer. You neither have morals or intellect to talk about anything other than your terrorist agenda. Take you mask off and join the rest of the terrorists.
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2010/02/fonseka-affair-perfect-blunder.html
Good Dayan..
..hic..
MD said
(your BULLSHIT predictions about the PE never materialised. now you are desperate)
Show me where i commented on PE elections
{read your own comments about how you vilify namal rajapaksha!!!]
Show me where i have commented on NR apart from The Times.
vis a vis photo of NR & YR at the Funky Buddha
As for you Sam, hic..the same old accusations . Change the record you are getting rather tedious and monotonous.
Jay Haan the Terrorist,
A terrorist like you quoting Dayan Jayathilake's writing does not make you a lesser terrorist neither will you be compared with Dayan.
Are you practicing the Monkey-donkey dance again? Please get something for hiccups.
Who is the LTTE leader who crossed to the Government side in the last phase of the war who is responsible of killing LTTE leaders as SF has told USA in October 2009 as reported in the USA
Could this be.....?
Jay the Terrorist Monkey,
As for you Sam, hic..the same old accusations . Change the record you are getting rather tedious and monotonous.
If a terrorist like you die from it after listening to 1000 times, I will happily repeat it. One less terrorist scum like in this world is a better world always.
SU,
I am not really sure of that particular leader. It can't be Daya or George. I don't think it is the other man either.
Dayan happens to be a good friend of mine.
We may not share the same views (ie lankan politics) but we agree to disagree and respect ones views.
It's more than what can be said about the diashoras in here.
Chill pill time
Sam the Man,
Go on repeat after me..
[Jay Haan the terrorist Monkey]
A 1000 times
..sigh...
http://www.srilankaguardian.org/2010/02/ballooned-ego-of-rajapakshas-would-not.html
Please no tear gas on the 18th
Mahanayakas seems to be in deep slumber when Fonseka told BBC that he will take our soldiers to a war crimes tribunal. I hope that somebody will Mahanayakas to read Fonseka's interview with BBC.
UNP+JVP successfully destroyed one time sinhala hero in 2 months. And they have found now mahanayakas. Do mahanayakas getting any value other than what they had - exhibition value in front of camera?
Re: Mahanayaka
There is a simple illogical fact missing [despite all obvious but undercover alliances they have made].
- To pardon SF, he has done something wrong. So they accept that SF has [say may have] done something wrong.
- If there is a wrong doing by SF, SF has to accept, regret, and appologise for it. Govt cannot pardon SF while SF will continue same "bad deed" [accepted by prelates].
- For a act of this level, you cannot simply pardon based on a mere apology, but you have to see the direction he takes, as anyone can issue a fake apology
- [On a diff matter this is my disagreement to Sam on JPB removal based on apology - I think it shud be based on apology and proving by action]
- Therefore, a long list for SF to fulfill for teh govt to issue the pardon
- If they [prelates] or anyone else thinks that the arrest is based on wrong facts and there is no such bad ded SF did, then it shudn't have a pardon. Instead it shud have a govt apology and a sizable compensation [since SF is innocent]. So they shud change teh wording of their statement.
- In that case, the govt still holds the right to conduct an investigation and a case of legal proceedings to find out whether SF is really innocent or not.
This is what teh govt sud convey to those "ape hamuduruwaney" clan. It shud make it so sincere.
I hope the govt will not do the monkey dance and loose the respect of ppl. Still SL ppl respect monks. Prelates of Malwathu/Asgiri may have lost some, but teh other two are strong Buddhist bases. MR is creation on this foundation. MR cannot kick teh ladder that brought him there. But that means no need to be submissive either.
Until MR resolves the issue with prelates I recommend him sending Mara-win and Hudda on compulsory holidays to a country of their like. Worth the money.
My Comment at The Economist
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Sinna Siththar,
Actually, the original Pali word is not "kacchami", but "gacchami"! Your way is how Tamil people usually spell and pronounce that word. The literal meaning of the triple
"Buddham saranam gacchami = I seek refuge in the Buddha
Dhammam saranam gacchami = I seek refuge in the Dhamma
Sangham saranam gacchami = I seek refuge in the Sangha"
every Buddhist knows, has studied, and lives to various degrees, according to his wishes.
I am not going to debate Buddhism, or the deeper meaning of the above words here with you, except to say that you should GIVE UP trying to use Buddhism to emasculate and make defenceless the majority Sinhala Buddhist community of Sri Lanka, to prevent them from defending their nation and their people from destruction .. by military means if necessary.
As I have said before, Buddhism, like most other major religions, are ideals that people seek to achieve and are guided by, but in the imperfect world that we live in cannot always comply with if we want to survive. Turning the other cheek also, when confronted with unmitigated evil hellbent on destroying everything one loves cannot be overcome by religion, but by applying counter-force. For example, the Christian Allies who defeated the Nazis and the Japanese in WW-II by using massive counter-force, the like of which the world had never seen before, were fighting for their very survival .. no amount of Christian homilies or Buddhist sermon's would have saved them. Please don't offer me Mahatma Gandhi's non-violence as a counter example; that worked against the British, but would have failed disastrously against murdererous people like the Nazis, Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge, or the LTTE.
In Sri Lanka, our leaders allowed various pseudo-bleeding hearts from all over the world having with their own self-serving agendas to divert them away from the hi=ghest duty to their people, and discourage them from SOLVING THE SEPARATIST PROBLEM quickly MILITARILY, as Abraham Lincoln did in the US Civil War. They fiddled with it until 100,000 people died. Fortunately for Sri Lanka, President Mahinda Rajapaksa came to the rescue .. and solved it QUICKLY the only way it could be solved, after giving the LTTE a short period to settle it peacefully.
I believe and practice my Buddhist religion under normal conditions, but I am not so impractical to think that under extraordinary conditions I would survive if the forces of law and order which maintain a safe environment for me did not exist. Because I am practical enough to see that, like millions of other practical people, I support a STRONG DEFENSE and the FORCES that maintain LAW & ORDER. Without our support, neither they, nor us, can survive.
Your arguments are typical of the impractical fools who think you can do away with all security forces and rely on religious ideals to save you; they never have and never will. These people continuously preach to those brave souls who make it possible FOR THEM TO SURVIVE, until violence pays them a visit in person, then realism sets in. But, that is like closing the barn door after the horse has been stolen.
You have no idea of why every nation maintains armed forces and police forces, do you? Well, let me give you a hint: ask any of the relatives of people who were bombed to pieces by the LTTE in Sri Lanka .. they will tell you. In fact, ask me! Ask any man in any street in Sri Lanka today whether he feels safer today than last year, and whether he realistically expected to return home from work two years ago.
In fact, your purpose here is not to even to preach Buddhism to all and sundry, but to undermine the reputation of Sri Lanka, and its defensive posture. I HAVE READ your comments; they are uniformly Anti-Sri Lanka. They attempt to disparage and undermine all that is good about our Resplendent Isle.
Sam P
Indeed Mahayanakas seem to be in deep slumber.
They have to decide between "allegedly" war crimes committed by the soldiers (btw. its not the soldiers who are accused) or maybe consider why the likes of Karuna/Pilliyan who have in cold blood killed over 100 young buddhist priest and are rewarded by Ministerial and Governers post.
Yes indeed a difficult choice.
..Slumberland..
When the Salvation Army were marching from Thoppigala to Parmankada, the Mahanayakas were in deep slumber too… now they have woken up.
/I simply wish that Rev. Wariyapola Sri Sumangala is here today to address the situation. Rev. Wariyapola Sri Sumangala simply would have shown the exit door of the Asgiriya Temple to all the white man worshiping scum flocking their to further their anti SL cause hiding behind our sacred temples./
SamP
Wariyapola Sumangala Thero did that in 1815 before British gain control. British correctly identified that how monks influence sinhalese and they also understood that its not possible to remove monks in SL politics. So they did their standard trick. They created two chapters (divide and rule) malwathu-asgiri for dominant (govi caste) siiyam nikaya and appointed two monks as leaders. Now they are supposed to be "leaders" for buddhists. Of course, they bribed them in terms of awards, responsibilities, recognition and material.
[Its the same in national level. They killed leaders like Kappetipola and appointed new leaders like DSS, SWRD etc]
Sinhala nation accepted this and you see when some one 'out of their assigned trained group'-RP/MR, become the leader how difficult suddha behave...
Mahanayakas have done so far their job - working for British (west) by controling buddhists even though they failed on JHU and last PE (Gonseka). However, their service to suddha should be recorded in bold fonts when 100s of monks get killed in 88-89 and in Aranthalwa, Sri maha bodhi attack, etc.
Only exception I have seen was Madihe Thero (amarapura). And as I know that nikaya is not in this clan.
Buddha told it should "dharma" be your teacher after his death. Buddha didn't appoint any mahanayakas neither he created nikayas for each caste. Suddha appointed mahanayakas and as we usually worship sudda we worship suddas mahanayakas too.
For this invaluable service mahanayakas doing for UNP they should give at least 2 national list slots for the couple.
Mahanayakas should also mention when they release their next notice to MR (via media) whether they too go international court with Gonseka to testify against our army.
Ninja,
Not all of the nikayas origins can be attributed to caste differences. That is a recent (few hundreds of years?) phenomenon.
The original nikaya division (Mahavihara, Abhayagiri etc) were based on idealogical differences, and on which country they originated from; not caste.
Check it out.
Also, very few Buddhists still pay attention to caste origins of the Buddhist nikayas, as far as I know.
I know I don't care .. I happily go to ANY and ALL Buddhist temples. My family has supported ALL Buddhist temples in our area, for as long as I can remember.
Ananda-USA
The word "nikaya" in pali means group or collection. It was used to describe collection of books (deega nikaya etc) initially. Mahavihara, Abayagiri etc was divided alone ideological issues - not caste. But I don't think they used word nikaya to express themselves even at that time. And now such groups don't exist. When you say nikaya today (except to refer books) you mean siyam nikaya etc. You like it or not thr truth is this all nikayas are based on caste. We should be ashamed but thats the reality. And its these so called mahanayakas who maintain such caste division not ordinary monks.
From wikipedia;
By the mid 18th century, upasampada (higher ordination, as distinct from samanera or novice ordination) had become extinct in Sri Lanka again. The Buddhist order had become extinct thrice during the preceding five hundred years and was re-established in the reigns of Vimala Dharma Suriya I (1591 - 1604) and Vimala Dharma Suriya II (1687 - 1707) as well. These re-establishments were short lived. On the initiative of Ven. Weliwita Saranankara (1698-1778) the Thai monk Upali Thera visited Kandy during the reign of king Kirti Sri Rajasinghe (1747 - 1782) and once again reestablished the Buddhist order in Sri Lanka in 1753. It was called the Siyam Nikaya after the "Kingdom of Siam".
However in 1764, merely a decade after the re-establishment of the Buddhist order in Sri Lanka by reverend Upali, a group within the newly created Siyam Nikaya conspired and succeeded in restricting the Nikaya's higher ordination only to the Govigama caste. This was a period when Buddhist Vinaya rules had been virtually abandoned and some members of the Buddhist Sangha in the Kandyan Kingdom privately held land, had wives and children, resided in the private homes and were called Ganinnanses.[1] It was a period when the traditional nobility of the Kandyan Kingdom was decimated by continuous wars with the Dutch rulers of the Maritime Provinces. In the maritime provinces too a new order was replacing the old. Mandarampura Puvata, a text from the Kandyan perid, narrates the above radical changes to the monastic order and shows that it was not a unanimous decision by the body of the sangha. It says that thirty two ‘senior’ members of the Sangha who opposed this change were banished to Jaffna by the leaders of the reform.
The Govigama exclusivity of the Sangha thus secured in 1764 was almost immediately challenged by other castes who without the patronage of the King of Kandy or of the British, held their own upasampada ceremony at Totagamuwa Vihara in 1772. Another was held at Tangalle in 1798. Neither of these ceremonies were approved by the Siam Nikaya which claimed that these were not in accordance with the Vinaya rules.
As a consequence of this ‘exclusively Govigama’ policy adopted in 1764 by the Siyam Nikaya, the Buddhists in the Maritime provinces were denied access to a valid ordination lineage. Hoping to rectify this situation, wealthy laymen from the maritime provinces financed an expedition to Burma to found a new monastic lineage. In 1799, Ambagahapitiye Gnanavimala Thera a monk from the Salagama caste, from Balapitiya on the south western coast of Sri Lanka, departed for Burma with a group of novices to seek a new succession of Higher ordination. The first bhikkhu was ordained in Burma in 1800 by the sangharaja of Burma, his party having been welcomed to Burma by King Bodawpaya.
cont.
The initial mission returned to Sri Lanka in 1803. Soon after their return to the island they established a udakhupkhepa sima (a flotilla of boats moved together to form a platform on the water) at the Maduganga river, Balapitiya and, under the most senior Myanmar bhikkhu who accompanied them, held an upasampada ceremony on Vesak Full Moon Day. The new fraternity came to be known as the Amarapura Nikaya, from the then capital of Burma.
Several subsequent trips to Burma by Karava and Durava monks as well, created by 1810 a core group of ordained monks and provided the required quorum for Higher Ordination of Amarapura Nikaya monks in Sri Lanka. The higher ordination denied to them in 1764 by the Govigama conspirators had been regained and they were soon granted recognition by the colonial British government. However the radical change of ordination rules by the Siyam Nikaya in 1764, and its continuance despite it being contrary to the teachings of the Buddha, plagues the Sri Lankan Buddhist Sangha, and the Sangha remains divided on caste lines.
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The Buddhist Siam Nikaya of Sri Lanka now grants Higher ordination only to the Radala and Govigama.[1] This Caste discrimination practiced by the Siyam Nikaya has continuously received the full support and patronage of the Govigama dominated Sri Lankan State and it’s Ministers and Ministries of Buddha Sasana, Cultural Affairs and others.
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Ramanna Nikaya (or Ramanya Nikaya) is one of the most orthodox Buddhist orders in Sri Lanka. It was founded in 1864 when Ambagahawatte Saranankara, a member of the Salagama caste, returned to Sri Lanka after being ordained by Ven. Gneiyadharma Sangharaja of Ratnapunna Vihara in Burma.
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The Amarapura maha nikaya is divided into no less than 21 sub-orders. These sub orders are believed to have been formed along cast divisions
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http://www.sikhspectrum.com/112002/wesak.htm
A good reference
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/112002/wesak.htm
for all concerned true buddhists...
Sam it cannot be Daya or George.
dayan jayatileka once again is preoccupied with the happenings in cuba and tries to apply those to gonz case.
he is OBVIOUSLY concerned about what WILL happen to rahul castro the military man SOON.
he sees letting gonz escape is like letting the castros get away when ppl and the law takes charge of cuba pretty soon.
DJ is good in analysing matters WITHOUT any CUBAN resemblence in his mind.
jay whore,
so now you CONVIENIENTLY forget things.
look at your own comments today and what you said b4 the PE!!!
a good read on gonzeka's affair and his hidden god fathers (or dog fathers)
http://www.lankaweb.com/news/items/2010/02/14/robert-blake-finally-comes-out-in-support-of-his-spy-in-sri-lanka/
well said tamilnet, for once.
never hesitate to congratulate the enemy when he speaks the truth.
"Theological premises of Maha Sangha raise questions
[TamilNet, Sunday, 14 February 2010, 10:24 GMT]
The Sri Lankan government should overlook the alleged crimes committed by General (retd) Sarath Fonseka, as the government has taken in its fold 'criminals' such as Karuna and Pillayan, who 'massacred' Bhikus at Aranthalawa, launched a bomb attack on Dalada Maligawa and killed Sinhalese civilians and military personnel. Hence the government should overlook the alleged offences committed by the Sri Lankan Genreal (retd) Sarath Fonseka, who almost lost his life to 'safeguard the territorial integrity of Sri Lanka' and so it surely can overlook the alleged offences committed by him, said a statement signed by the chief prelates of the four chapters of the Buddhist Maha Sangha. Tamil circles question whether the statment outlines the principles of 'practical theology' of the Maha Sangha in the island.
The government surely can overlook the alleged offences committed by a man who made enormous sacrifices to unite and safeguard the territorial integrity of the country, the statement said.
“We cannot accept the arrest of a brave officer who played a major role in eradicating terrorism, due to petty political differences,” Buddhist prelates have stated in the letter.
The letter signed by Most Ven.Tibbotuwawe Sri Siddhartha Sumangala Mahanayaka Thero of Malwatte Chapter, Most Ven. Udugama Sri Rathanapala Buddharakkitha Mahanayaka (chief prelate) Thero of Asgiriya Chapter, Most Ven. Dawuldena Gnanissara Thero, the chief prelate of Amarapura Nikaya and Most Ven. Weweldeniye Medhalankara Thero, the chief prelate of Ramanna Nikaya, was sent to the Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa on Saturday.
Ninja said ..
[Mahavihara, Abayagiri etc was divided along ideological issues - not caste.]
This is my understanding also.
[When you say nikaya today (except to refer books) you mean siyam nikaya etc.]
Again, this is my understanding also, but I thought Siyam nikaya did not care about caste .. and generally followed the teachings of the ancient Mahavihara school, whereas Amarapura and Ramanna were initiated by caste groups, and for some reason felt alienated from the Siyam nikaya.
Of course, they may have ACCUSED the Siyam nikaya of caste discrimination, just as Tamils accuse Sinhalese of discrimination after independence, with no truth to it. The drive to make the benefits of society more acessible to all disadvanted people, most of whom were Sinhala Buddhist, was viewed by the Tamil elite as discrimination because it would dilute their privileged position in society, even though many poorer low caste Tamils also benefited from those policies. Another example is Ramadoss claiming discrimination against Vanniyars in Tamil Nadu and demanding a separate Vanniyar state. But, does that mean that these accusations are true? Very often they are only the cover story hiding the real truth.
Likewise, in the caste of the nikayas, was there some other reason for resentment, like jealousy, access to royal patronage, temple property rights, or even a manifestation of unfullfilled ambitions ego-driven priests? Even today, there are various Buddhist orders, created by enterprising Buddhist priests popping up in Sri Lanka, on varous pretexts, generating friction between them.
That is why I said "not all nikayas are caste related"; I felt the Siyam nikaya was not caste driven.
In any case, my point is, I don't think caste is still an important issue even within the Buddhist nikayas .. but, I could be wrong.
I will ask my friends and family in Sri Lanka about this.
Thank you for your great response!
Ananda and Ninja,
Even though am somewhat disconnected from the Buddhist temple, I have heard stories in the lines of Ninja. However, I am not sure if these differences at the chief levels migrate down to village levels. One thing is certain that no lay person I know gives a damn about nikaya differences. It is not nikaya that mattered but how the monks live their lives. Several times, I have heard rumors that one chief in a Kandy temple was in to violations of all seela they are supposed to follow. That was some time ago, not recently. Anyway, that was a minor distraction. What matters right now is that we need to awake these prelates before they get fooled by the top scum of Sri Lanka.
SAm Perera said ..
[What matters right now is that we need to awake these prelates before they get fooled by the top scum of Sri Lanka.]
Yes, Indeed!
Ninja, let us drop this irrelevant discussion of nikaya differences.
i doubt udagama thero will listen to anyone other than the top scum.
at least others need to be educated.
With respect to Gonseka trial Government should allow "foreign observers" say from Japan and India and other neutral countries. They can be judges & military prosecutors to sit, watch and observe.
They should be barred from shuttling around the country and kept in a hotel throughout their stay, no visits from anyone akin to how Juries can be kept locked up in motels in the US haha.
I disagreed with Moshe over "opening it up to media" and i still stand by that, knowing these tards they will spin it their own way.
Media who should be allowed should be local patriotic media (Island) and Indian media. State media should be kept out.
That way any bitching by Gonseka, gonseka supporters both in and out of Sri Lanka can be negated (they will complain anyway, but the accounts of foreigners will be better).
Government should make a point that they only allowed it because they wanted to prove to be transparent due to the sensitive nature of the case or whatever.
http://www.divaina.com/2010/02/15/feature01.html
An Eye opener for our blindfolded Mahanayakas
If Gonseka to has a gon attack during the trial and go on a mad rampage like during the PE (get him to use his foul mouth against witnesses, maybe punch Wijiedasa for tell him to hush ala Mangala style) it will prove him INSANE and power mad, vengeful (a controlling figure) that way we his "white flags" will be useless. Also make him get his links to the US out, planning and involvement in his PE campaign, sort of a blurted out "they told me what to do". Insane gonseka obviously would need help for PE.
/but I thought Siyam nikaya did not care about caste../
If you are not govigama the best way to check this by yourself is go to siyam nikaya temple and ask monk-hood..
/and generally followed the teachings of the ancient Mahavihara school,../
Every one (all nikaya) in SL follows Mahavihara school - theravada.
/Of course, they may have ACCUSED the Siyam nikaya of caste discrimination, just as Tamils accuse Sinhalese of discrimination after independence, with no truth to it./
There is no accusation now as problem was solved centuries ago - by "taking upasampadawa" directly from burma.
/Likewise, in the caste of the nikayas, was there some other reason for resentment, like jealousy, ../
Story is this. In Kandian era one day when king came to see monks one monk stood up. King became so upset as no monk supposed to stand up in front of laymen. (In tradition any monk is ranked higher than any laymen. Thus monk will not stand up even before king.) When king questioned he found that monk was from 'law' caste. So he gave "kakille" judgement ordering not to include any one from law caste in monks. (Kandian era is a time buddhists was in very poor level in knowledge and discipline wise.)
/In any case, my point is, I don't think caste is still an important issue even within the Buddhist nikayas../
caste is the one and only reason for existence of different nikayas.
/Also, very few Buddhists still pay attention to caste origins of the Buddhist nikayas, as far as I know.
I know I don't care .. I happily go to ANY and ALL Buddhist temples./
I know you and me don't care. But mahanayakas do. Probably caste is the only thing mahanayakas care genuinly.
/let us drop this irrelevant discussion of nikaya differences./
Of course this is irrelevant here now. This is a standard topic anti-sinhala, anti-buddhist, anti-nationalistic camp use to attack but unlike their other BS this is true.
Please read the link I gave in earlier post. Up to my knowledge every thing is true written there.
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/112002/wesak.htm
I know this is painful and shameful for any patriot. If you are not afraid of reality and truth do your own research and you will find out - no need to believe me.
@dheshapaluwa
"Pol, the act by Mahanayakas is shameful. Chandraprema, in his Island column assume its getting some power and about restoring buddha sasana ministry.
I first tought it was cast, this may be still right.
Now the other mahanayakas are also pitching in, looks like the west has suceeded in breaking Sinhala Buddhists against their mahanayakas."
I agree.
This will be the loss of the Mahanayakas in the long run. As a result their political allegiances and motivations will soon unravel and they will lose all credibility.
This is a cunning ploy nonetheless to target the Sinhala rural voters.
After hearing "this is wrong" by the mahanayakas, friends and family started having a go at MR. There concern however was not with the arrest but that the mahanayakas "objected" as they were worried it would effect his vote base for the GE.
I am unsure whether this will have an effect or not, hard to predict these things, feels the same as during the PE whether people will be conned by Gonseka's price drops and wages increases crap trap. Also GE is a different kettle of fish to PE considering its the collective of MPs on the podium not just one man. It is up to MR/UPFA to field good candidates, and they better.
I believe people will vote for MR/SLFP again out of concern others will not be voting for him because of the mahanayakas statement.
Might be totally wrong though. Guess this GE will also be a test of the mahanayakas
Ninja said ...
[I know this is painful and shameful for any patriot. If you are not afraid of reality and truth do your own research and you will find out - no need to believe me.]
Of course, I believe you are telling me what you know to be the truth. Yes, it is a painful thing for us. I will do some additional research, particularly through my contacts in Sri Lanka. If they tell me anything diffferent, I will let you know.
Thank you, brother.
CID finds US dollars in safety locker of Dhanuna’s mother
February 15, 2010 02:21 pm
The Criminal Investigation Department (CID) on Friday had sealed four safety lockers belonging to Dhanuna Thilakaratne’s mother in a bank in Colombo, sources reported.
The CID this morning (Monday Feb. 15) had opened the safety lockers in the presence of Dhanuna Thilakaratne’s mother, Asoka Tillkeratne and had found around 525,000 US dollars and some Sri Lankan rupees as well. Dhanuna is Gen. Fonseka’s son-in-law.
When the CID had wanted to record a statement from Ms. Tillkeratne mother, she had claimed that the cash belonged to General (Retired) Sarath Fonseka and that she had agreed to deposit it in her safety locker.
Ms. Tillkeratne is reported to have helped Gen. Fonseka’s wife Anoma to operate a hair dressing saloon within the Panagoda Army Headquarters premises on behalf of the Seva Wanitha Unit of the Sri Lanka Army. Asoka Tillkeratne had ceremonially declared it opened.
Later Ms. Tillkeratne had reportedly opened up a saloon of her own in a leading star class hotel in Colombo. However when complaints had been received that the charges were too high at the saloon in the Panagoda saloon, the present Army Commander had reportedly initiated a probe.
Dhanuna Tillkeratne, the General’s son-in-law, has been accused of indulging in arms deals through a company allegedly belonging to him in Oklahoma in the USA. He has been listed as the President and Registered Agent for the company Hicorp International Inc. which is said to have supplied arms, ammunition and several other items to the Sri Lanka Army while General Fonseka was its commander.
Dhanuna has also allegedly also submitted a trade name registration to the Secretary of State of Oklahoma stating that British Borneo Defence, a registered company in Australia, is a trade name of Hicorp International."
Above story from here:
CID finds US dollars in safety locker of Dhanuna’s mother
http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=7209
Daily Mirror and Lankadeepa still published nothing about this and this is a clear indication of their unbiasedness !
If the news does not support their cause it won't matter how big the news is and on the other hand if the news supports their cause it does not matter how insignificant it is !
Keerthi Warnakulasuriya of Divaina stated the following in his Sunday Defence column.
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මෙරට ජනතාවට හෙළි නොවූ තොරතුරු රැසක් අද අපි හෙළිදරව් කරන්නෙමු.
වන්නි යුද මෙහෙයුම සමයේ මේ බොම්බඩියර් කණ්ඩායමට වන්නියේ ඕනෑම ස්ථානයකට පිවිසීමේ හිමිකම ලැබිණි. එවන් හිමිකමක් වෙනත් කිසිම මාධ්යයකට ලැබුණේ නැත. වෙඩි නොවදින බොඩි ආමර් කබා සහ ආරක්ෂක හිස්වැසුම් පැළඳගත් මේ මාධ්ය අඳබාල කණ්ඩායමට ඕනෑම ස්ථානයක ඡායාරූප ගැනීමට ද ඉඩ ලැබිණි. මොවුන් ආරක්ෂක හමුදා ක්ෂේත්රය තුළ තම අණසක කොතරම් බරපතල ලෙස මෙහෙය වූවාද කීවොත් ජ්යෙෂ්ඨ හමුදා නිලධාරීන්ට ද සිදුවූයේ නිහඬ වී පසුගිය වසරේ ජනවාරි මාසයේ හිටපු ජෙනරාල්ගේ නිවසේ පැවැති සුහද හමුවට පැමිණි මාධ්යවේදීන්ගේ අනන්යතාව පවා විමර්ශනයට ලක් කළේ බොම්බඩියර් කණ්ඩායමේ මාධ්ය අඳබාලයෙකි. එA වන විට වන්නි මෙහෙයුමට සම්බන්ධ විවිධ ඡායාරූප ලොව පුරා විකාශනය විය. 2008 අප්රේල් මාසයේ දිනෙක මේ බොම්බඩියර් කණ්ඩායමේ සාමාජිකයෙක් යුද හමුදාවේ මීළඟ මෙහෙයුම අලිමංකඩ යෑයි කියමින් යුද රහස් කොටින් වෙත විකාශනය කළේය. එපමණක් ද නොවේ, හමුදා කණ්ඩායම් භාර නිලධාරීන්ගේ අනන්යතාව ද අනාවරණය කරනු ලැබීය.
මෙම අලිමංකඩ මෙහෙයුම ක්රියාත්මක කරන කර්නල්වරයා කවුරුන්ද යන්න පවා හෙළිදරව් කෙරිණි.
මේ අයුරින් ක්රියා කළ බොම්බඩියර් ඊදපඉaරාසැර ඨරදමච අවසානයේදී ලොකුම විනාශය කළේය. එA ආරක්ෂක ලේකම් විසින් එවකට බ්රිගේඩියර්වරයකුව සිටි ශවේන්ද්ර සිල්වාට යටත්වීමට එන කොටින්ව ඝාතනය කරන ලෙස නියෝග දුන් බව හිටපු ජෙනරාල්ට පැවසීමය.
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It is more than clear that this particular gang whom he calls as traitors are few known to us by their names. It is interesting to know whom they are.
Pol Sambol,
US $525,000 is equal to SLR 600 Laks. These days you need about 100 Laks to build a decent house. Therefore the amount is not a big problem. Why is this kind of money sitting in a deposit box is the question? If it is truly earned money through legitimate business, he should have it in a bank account, not a deposit box.
Last time we heard from Mahen was 4th February. EFT is under new management he said [looks like a very lousy management].
Anyone knowing what's happened? Any theories...
Victor Ivan onn SF arrest
It is not something I can fully agree with. But it has some good points.
Note that Victor Ivan's stand in SL political arena varies from time to time. Only thing he has held strong was the support to tamil separatism.
Sujeeva,
I believe it is Rukmal Gamage and Ranil Wijayapla of Lakehouse. They were reported to be holed up in Cinnamon command center of Fonseka on January 26th.
TMVP contests alone
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The Thamil Makkal Viduthalai Pullikal (TMVP) today decided to include some new faces to contest the upcoming General elections after the party decided to go it alone at the polls, TMVP spokesman Azad Maulana told Daily Mirror online.
Maulana said that following days of negotiations within the party and with the ruling UPFA government, the TMVP had today reached a formal decision to contest the General Elections independently.
He said that the TMVP will contest under the boat symbol at the April 8 elections and have included several Tamil academics and activists to run for the elections on behalf of the party in the east.
Maulana however asserted that the decision to contest independently will not dent the relationship between the party and the government. The TMVP contested the Eastern Provincial council elections with the UPFA and also supported President Mahinda Rajapaksa at the recent Presidential elections.
The TMVP had several rounds of negotiations with the government and even met President Mahinda Rajapaksa before reaching the decision today to contest the polls independently.
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Good thing is to lead the tamils of east who seem to be on stray [as per PE result]. It is not acceptable for any ethnic divisions in political arena, yet, consdiering teh way how many tamils in East voted last time. It is good that TMVP trying to stand on their own. It gives TNA a neck-a-neck competition.
Another advantage is that Karuna can show his colors for SLFP. Even a seat from whole east if a victory w/o TMVP in the fold.
There are disadvantageous, where TMVP might demand unfair things in joining up with govt. Also the example they set here is not right. Yet I believe that TMVP is still trustable.
After straying with SF for a month Shitgeetha has come back to SLFP. Does this political whore has any say in Batti?
Sam;
[[I believe it is Rukmal Gamage and Ranil Wijayapla of Lakehouse]]
I was suspecting it was a TV guy.
Ranil Wijayapla
He's a "defence correspondent" right? Let me guess MR did not invite him for tea or something so he wanted to settle a score? Or did he occupy Gonsekas dog cage from the beginning?
TMVP going alone might not be so bad, especially if it eats in TNA seats - i am assuming here TNA uses/has Eastern seats??
While they may place demands on the Government, it may also give the Government bargaining chips. The more Tamil political parties in the East and North, the more they will fight amongst themselves. Depending on how things go with the SLMC and UNP, we could have UNP, SLMC, UPFA and TMVP in the East, plus UNP, UPFA, TNA, EPDP and Assandagrees TUFL in the North.
Having one party ruling the roost amongst the Tamilia has been a bad thing. Multiple parties jostling for power and alliances gives more options to the Government.
We can favour the East over the North, have one set of Tamilia Vs another. So many possibilities.
Heck we could also trap them into accepted recolonisation/“Land distribution and equality” this way. Moshe can hammer out the details of this one :))
Malwathu and Asgiri prelates are getting the earful from Chandrasena Pandithage about past acts of treachery by them. I hope that prelates will correct their acts soon.
Norway cuts funding for Kumar Rupasinghe for working with Basil-From Lanka News Whores run by LTTE/TOSSIE.
However, diplomatic sources said that foreign funding given to the NGO has been slashed due to the alleged financial irregularities at the institution and for supporting the Mahinda Rajapaksa government in an unethical manner to suppress the opposition. While an inquiry has already been launched in to the alleged financial irregularities at the NGO and the Rs. 30 million
allocated for office expenses for the next few months has been temporarily halted pending the conclusion of the investigation.
Kumar Rupasinghe joined forces with Basil Rajapaksa to help the President’s election campaign and also initiated the campaign that portrayed General Sarath Fonseka as Idi Ameen.
We always knew how Norway try to destabilize Sri Lanka. However, LTTE going on record is something new.
All the UNP scum who ridiculed the war efforts are singing in praise of Fonseka the one man chakravarthi warrior. Of course, it is the same scum who are ready to dance to the tune of LTTE/TNA.
Poyry Wins EUR6.1m Hydro Power Contract In Sri Lanka
Published: 15-Feb-2010
Poyry has bagged a EUR6.1m contract for feasibility studies, design and construction supervision of the Uma Oya hydropower project in Sri Lanka.
The project comprises two dams and over 15km of water conveyance tunnels, a 700mt deep shaft and an underground powerhouse with two Pelton turbines of total 150MW installed capacity.
The design phase is expected to be completed by the end of 2011. The main construction activities are scheduled to start in early 2011 and the power station will be commissioned in early 2016. Farab International of Dubai is the EPC contractor of the project.
The construction of the hydropower plant and the dams is part of Uma Oya Multipurpose development project by the Ministry of Irrigation, Sri Lanka. In the project, water will be diverted from the wet central highlands into the dryer southern part of Sri Lanka for irrigation and human consumption, and will use the available head of over 700mt for energy generation.
Poyry is a consulting and engineering company and has experience of the study and design of dams, hydropower schemes and irrigation works in Sri Lanka.
Read this Lanka eccentric News piece about Danuna's safety deposit box that had "election money."
Danuna's lawyers say that is the dollar money Fonseka received for election. Lawyers also say that this is much less than the total HiCorp transaction. What the hell is that about? I thought that HiCorp never sold a thing to Sri Lanka.
we were the first to highlight danuna's mother's involvement in gonzeka's illegal business.
that was more than 3 months ago.
at last the CID is doing something.
"The CID this morning (Monday Feb. 15) had opened the safety lockers in the presence of Dhanuna Thilakaratne’s mother, Asoka Tillkeratne and had found around 525,000 US dollars and some Sri Lankan rupees as well. Dhanuna is Gen. Fonseka’s son-in-law.
When the CID had wanted to record a statement from Ms. Tillkeratne mother, she had claimed that the cash belonged to General (Retired) Sarath Fonseka and that she had agreed to deposit it in her safety locker.
Ms. Tillkeratne is reported to have helped Gen. Fonseka’s wife Anoma to operate a hair dressing saloon within the Panagoda Army Headquarters premises on behalf of the Seva Wanitha Unit of the Sri Lanka Army. Asoka Tillkeratne had ceremonially declared it opened."
CWC contesting with the UPFA is such a dumb decision.
this means otherwise UPFA seats will go to CWC.
there is no fcuking need for this.
govt should have allowed CWC to contest from the UNP.
they anyway join the ruling party after the election!!
that will not only add to to govt but also reduce the opposition.
Ven. Rathana on the malwathu-asgiri issue
A very clever point made here giving the "other side" of the GSP+
If Lankan companies set up in the EU (and elsewhere) and supply the chains with garments made from SL they can make huge profit and success. Unfortunately it is a long term investment, requires a lot of marketing, and the garment industry in SL love suddha too much, they would never assist a burgeoning retail store.
"February 16, 2010 12:06 am
Our company bosses want MAXIMUM profits, so they cry about this GSP+ stuff. This is not a big deal, really not. Let me explain; from this side of Europe, what do I need as a dealer, importer or whatnot? MAXIMUM profit. How can I get it? By importing at the lowest possible levels and selling at higher levels. Now, the distributors also have to have MAXIMUM profit, and without the distributor, the importer cannot make his MAXIMUM profit. The European consumer wants to buy at lowest possible prices, which is called bargains. That´s why the so-called GSP+ (or in any other name) DISCOUNT are given. Who gets the MAXIMUM discount by this GSP+ (or whatever)? The importer in the European country. We think we get that? NO! The importer then sells the goods to the distributor, who can play with the price. The distributor starts with quite price, then slowly come down and the goods are at a bargain. The European consumer buys anyway and the distributor, importer and the given European government too earns quite a sum, though that government had given a DISCOUNT to our country as a reduced custom duty. Sri Lankan traders, exporters earn a lot too anyway. They cry a lot, but won´t stop driving a Benz or a BMW. So, guys think about this; HOW about being the importer in that European country at the same time being the exporter? You don´t have to look too far, for there is a Sri Lankan company which is the exporter and the importer in the given European and other countries. Find that Sri Lankan company and learn the ropes. Have look at Vietnamese, Indians, Turkish, etc, etc. They are also exporters from their respective country and importers of their own goods in an European country. Learn and stop worrying about some GSP+! It maybe hard to believe for you guys, BUT these Europeans NEED us more than we need them!!!
Ariya"
I agree Moshe about CWC.
Its not worth it.
Government should "encourage" Thonda to side with UNP, then brake away and join up with the Governmet like he always does.
I heard a slightly different version:
she had claimed that the cash belonged to General (Retired) Sarath Fonseka and that she had agreed to deposit it in her safety locker.
wow! Hear that Anoma?
Wonder what else of this SFW (Sarath Fonseka Whoredog) she deposited in her "lockers" ???
ha ha ha...certainly the bitch still appears to be a good-game and alas, I would not put it past the sex-maniac SFW to have deposited more than this money in Mrs. Tilakaratne's "lockers" !!!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
what these aachchees doing?
http://www.lankadeepa.lk/2010/02/15/front_news/08.html
So, the whole HiCorp shitpile is coming unglued uh? (pardon the distasteful expression; could not find any other way to say it)
http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=7210
Sam, I agree the sums of 15 million rupees and U$525,000 are not huge, but then again as they were found in CASH belonging to Sarath Fonseka Whoredog (SFW) (as so claimed by Mrs. Tilakaratne, Danuna’s mother, who owned the boxes) it is a cause for grave concern.
This finding is not going to go away as easily as some think as when coupled to the allegations of:
1) Danuna owned HiCorp receiving illegal commissions (via his SFW father-in-law approved army procurement contracts to HiCorp)
2) SFW plotting a coup with the aid of army deserters, including the assassination of MR and key GOSL persons
3) SFW receiving money from US, Norway, etc. for his PE campaign bid
No, this sizable stash of money in CASH is going to “speak volumes” at the forthcoming trials – of both Danuna and SFW I can see.
OaO Asithri
/CID finds over 500,000 US dollars in safety locker of Dhanuna’s mother
The Criminal Investigation Department (CID) on Friday had sealed four safety lockers belonging to Dhanuna Thilakaratne’s mother in a bank in Colombo, sources reported./
Now mahanayakas should demand MR to release both SF and his money.
Sam
[Kumar Rupasinghe joined forces with Basil Rajapaksa to help the President’s election campaign and also initiated the campaign that portrayed General Sarath Fonseka as Idi Ameen.]
Did this really happen? I have known Kumar R as another whoredog that was in the pocket of anti-SL, pro-LTTE western lobby.
As such, is this really true (that he worked to get MR elected)?
If anyone can post more info. re. this that would be great.
OaO Asithri
I think that every tamil group in UPFA shud appear alone this time. Districts are N/E [5] and Nuwra Eliya. But elsewhere they shud be as bound as rocks.
Only loss is the bonus seat of a district where they can win if contested together. But I doubt winning above mentioned districts. Only distant chance is winning Digamadulla but probability is low.
So let them contest alone. TMVP, EPDP, Thonda [better leave him with UNP as Moshe said] and also Plote [wanni]. But the Muslim's shud be held closely. There is a strong Muslim support in east for UPFA.
If UPFA can win a seat each in each North and Eastern districts w/o tamil support. It is a major gain. Meanwhile most those anti-pussycat tamils whom got lost politically, and have some ice breaking to vote for a national [Sri Lankan] party, can vote for Tamil* parties who faught against pussycats.
In my view, both EPDP and TMVP must contest on their own.
Rationale: It is too early in the post-war game for GOSL ruling party to be contesting these "LTTE brainwashed" electorates on its own.
Any sign of GOSL in these areas, the LTTE over 25 years had ensured it brainwashed the citizens to abhor and reject saying it reflects "Chingalam domination & persecution of us Tamilians" and this cannot change overnight.
However, once Tamil-identity parties (but pro-UPFA) have won and people have had a chance to see the benefits coming their way (e.g. sheer development planned for the N & E), then I am sure in time they will wean themselves out of the LTTE brainwash and at future elections (in another 5-6 years) when UPFA contests with suitable Tamil candidates on its own, its bound to win handsomely as then the "trust" would have been won.
My personal views only. Agree there are other perspectives here and I respect them.
OaO Asithri
Only after you get cured of cancer you get to feel your back pain and joint pain.
Similarly, only after LTTE we are seeing other problems of our society: problems with our maha nayakas (and nikayas); JVP mentality;
I say it's all good. Hopefully MR will find the right 'thela' (oil) for the right ailment.
Asithri,
Did this really happen? I have known Kumar R as another whoredog that was in the pocket of anti-SL, pro-LTTE western lobby.
That is exactly what I think too. The least that can come from KR is coughing less for the Norwegian interests,because he is critically ill. May be he didn't cough enough this time for his white masters. In any case, it is bizarre to see the news from Lanka News Whores.
Asithri,
I believe this is Gonseka's campagain money from US/Norway. It is most likely how such an amount ended up in the deposit box, HiCorp involved proper accounts. How this got into the deposit box is of interest, must have had a "diplomatic clearance".
CIA operated like this during Iran-Contra affair and training the Mujahadeen backing the 1980s. Literally briefcases full of money exchanged hands.
"Ninja said...
Now mahanayakas should demand MR to release both SF and his money."
I do not think so. Without this money they get no payment, no need to issue statments.
Asithri,
”Did this really happen? I have known Kumar R as another whoredog that was in the pocket of anti-SL, pro-LTTE western lobby.”
Kumar Rupesinghe has been busy working in secret in the central province telling the plantation Tamils there about self-rule, autonomy and making deals with foreign countries "independently".
He however does not like Gonseka. He did not support MR, nor did he support Gonseka.
However his "self-autonomy" crap for the plantation Tamils is going too slowly and he was ordered to "reorient" it to join up with we Tamiz in North and East, which he had difficulty doing. Why 2 states when you can have 3, maybe 4 if Hakeem does good.
No, this sizable stash of money in CASH is going to “speak volumes” at the forthcoming trials – of both Danuna and SFW I can see.
OaO Asithri
Yes my friend, you put the right emphasis. Why are they hiding such sizable amount of foreign currency in a bank deposit box?
Multipolar has been away for a few days, maybe because he was not being paid?
Pol,
Kata, kata.... ;)
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