No Sri Lankan Patriot wanted it to come to this, but Gen. Sarath Fonseka had not learned this basic principle of survival: When immersed nose deep in mud, the wise keep their mouths closed!
Gen. Fonseka will have the time to ponder this truism, as he contemplates the errors of judgment that led to his precipitous fall from grace from being, perhaps, the third most admired man in Sri Lanka to one of the most vilified, in a brief period of nine months. World history abounds with such instances of foolish men of unbounded ambition destroying themselves when they loosen their grasp on honor, duty and patriotism.
Colombopage had this to say today (February 08, 2010) about Gen. Fonseka's arrest:
General Fonseka has been arrested on charges of committing military offenses during his time in the Army," the newly appointed military spokesman Major General Prasad Samarasinghe said in an official statement to the Government Media Unit. He did not elaborate on the specific offenses.
Director General of the Media Centre for National Security, Lakshman Hulugalle, said Fonseka would face charges in a military court of conspiracy against the government.
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The government has accused General Fonseka of plotting to assassinate the President and overthrow the government by a coup. The government has arrested over 50 of his loyal retired military officers on planning the coup. General Fonseka denies all government's accusations against him.
However, a BBC report said earlier in the day the General had threatened to divulge the military secrets in response to alleged war crimes against the Sri Lankan military during the final phase of the war against the LTTE.
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Early in his presidential campaign in an interview to a Sunday weekly, the opposition candidate accused the Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa of ordering the Army's 58 Division leader to kill the senior LTTE cadres who were attempting to surrender with white flags.
He later retracted the statement saying the paper misquoted him but the government and the media said the retired commander betrayed the nations and the damage to the country and the military had been done by the General's statement for political gain.
According to The Asian Tribune the main charges, read out to Gen. Fonseka at the time of his arrest, were
• Politicking whilst in uniform,
• Conspiring against the Commander-in-Chief whilst in Service,
• Harboring more than 1,500 deserters whilst on Service,
• And, corrupt practices in relating to military procurements.
We trust that the Government has all of the necessary evidence to support these charges, and that they will promptly release him if the evidence available cannot stand up to legal scrutiny. However, what we know of Gen. Fonseka's activities to date since the end of the Eelam War in May, 2009, as reported in the press and elsewhere, leads us to believe that Gen. Fonseka will be convicted in a court of law, and will spend a significant portion of his life behind bars.
We take no joy in the downfall of one we considered a war-hero, but we firmly believe that those who betray their country by deed and word for ANY REASON WHATSOEVER, must be held ACCOUNTABLE, if only to serve as an example to deter others from VIOLATING the Law of the Land, and UNDERMINING the National Security of the Motherland.
Let ALL those who conspire to betray the Motherland, and violate Sri Lanka's laws with impunity take note: You will no longer will be allowed to run free; you will be held accountable for your actions! You can RUN, but you will not be able to HIDE! Therefore, CEASE and DESIST, in your own interest.
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We need to organize counter-demonstrations, and a campaign to oppose this move to blacklist Sri Lanka Products by the Eelamists
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"Boycott Sri Lanka goods" campaign spreads to more US cities
SU,
It is not mine.
Seeems like Iran Style protests are on for arresting SF instead of election results. Also there is massive campaign on Facebook as well.
Rasika,
These are not "Iran style protests", just retard JVPs spreading violence, SK predicted this. Nothing much will come out of it. Just one politically non-entity (JVP/Colombians) trying hard to survive off of another political non-entity (Gonseka).
Just watch the campaign slogan of the GE for the opposition, it is going to switch from "change" into "free Gonseka". This too will fail.
As for the Facebook group that’s another good laugh. It is being spearheaded by the same people who wanted to jail Fonseka for "war crimes" now wanting him freed.
Also the same set of tards who went around saying "if he's guilty arrest him" are now screaming "release him".
MD and SU thanks for commenting on my analysis.
MD I agree that SF's thug assets can be a advantage for the UNP, but we have to remember that can be a double edges sward, those thugs can turn on UNPers who are against SF as well. As SF has no long history or attachemnt to UNP, there is a real possibility of that happening and pushing the party in to total mayhem.
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SU, I think the governments case has a better chance of being accepted by the people as the people who are crying for Fonseka now are the people who tried to hang them one time, so the people question their genuineness.
Parrots of Pakisland said...
Sri Lanka will learn lessons the hard way. During war politics and practices won't work after the war if you want to join IC community.
Well I hold the most important news for a later comment.
That is government has already consulted some expert Chinese hackers (some of our own guys are learning tricks from those Chinese guys to be self sufficient) on this matter and they've already started there work.
So Facebook and Blogger protesters be careful!
Same applies to my dear friend who is behind Parrots of Pakisland.
They may already have your address and pay you a white van visit in near future!
If they pay you a white van visit we may miss our regular entertainment so much !
So be careful my dear friend we don't like to miss you/our regular entertainment here !
Would anyone care to explain what these Fonseka protests are about?
The man was arrested for engaging in politics while in uniform, accepting funds from known LTTE fronts and harbouring army deserters. All three are crimes punishable by stiff prison terms. He was manhandled because he resisted arrest.
In a country where there is rule of law, anyone who engages in same activities as Fonseka would have been meted the very same treatment.
So, do these protesters want Fonseka released, without trial and without punishment, just because they support him? If so, what about law of the land? Do they want to build a culture of impunity?
Who ever is running the government must make sure there aren't any death in these streets protests. Otherwise there would be a huge black mark in government if street protests leads to death and violence. I think this is what JVP, UNP is trying to achieve. To make sure some innocent people dies in a street protest.
If we are using police to manage this stuff, very loyal police officers must be used at all time.
Also some news articles talks about death penalty, and before this type of BS spreads, government should inform the public there is no slightest chance of such a thing.
There would be a big attempt to bring SL to a situation like in SL
Peter said...
So, do these protesters want Fonseka released, without trial and without punishment, just because they support him? If so, what about law of the land? Do they want to build a culture of impunity?
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What do you mean a build a culture of impunity. Where have you been living all your life. There is nothing to build, we all ready have one.
Anyway how did the SF to president campaign go?
@Thusitha
Government can prohibit street protests under emergency law I guess.
Those so-called protesters are the ones who really don't want SF to be released in the bottom of their heart since they would lose their main GE slogan in such case.
NFF leader says Sri Lanka Marxist party secretary provided clues to arrest General Fonseka
ColomboPage News Desk, Sri Lanka.
Feb 10, Colombo: The leader of the breakaway Marxist party National Freedom Front Wimal Weerawansa says theGeneral Secretary of the Janatha Vimukthi Peramuna Tilvyn Silva presented the first reason that led to the arrest of the opposition candidate General Sarath Fonseka.
Addressing a media briefing today at the headquarters of the NFF this morning, Weerawansa said that General Fonseka has revealed that he dealt with political parties while he was holding a senior Army position.
NFF leader said the General has openly stated that he consulted General Secretary of the JVP Tylvin Silva when he was touring the USA in early November 2009 before his retirement from the Army as the Chief of Defence Staff.
Fonseka is charged with violating the military law by conducting and sharing deals with political parties against the Government while being a prominent member of the Security Council, the highest body which deals with the most secret national security decisions.
Weerawansa further said the Army Commander General Sarath Fonseka has openly said he is ready to give evidences to the International Criminal Court on War Crimes against the troops he led during the war to appease the international forces against the government.
Military Police have already collected a great deal of evidences against the general, he said adding that a UNP parliamentarian has also given a statement to the Military Police about Fonseka's offences.
Thanks Sam. Miss the eye on detail.
My Comment at The Economist:
OldThomian said "Unfortunately for the Brothers, there’s a fly in the ointment- lack of proof!"
Au Contraire, my dear OldThomian, evidence against Gen. Fonseka exists in spades, presenting the Govt of Sri Lanka with the happy dilemma of choosing only the best to pursue.
For example, even those who are not privy to the details of the other charges can appreciate that harboring deserters and employing them without reporting them to the authorities is a criminal offense in Sri Lanka. Gen. Fonseka is guilty of over 1,000 counts of this crime, and can be given a VERY LONG VACATION behind bars on that charge alone.
After all, my dear OldThomian, he was the Army Chief, and later the Chief of Defense Forces, responsible for ENFORCING Military Justice .. he should know! Talk about the FOX looking after the CHICKENS!
Sri Lanka, our Resplendent Motherland,
"Esto Perpetua"!
Patriots Young,
Patriots Old,
Patriots Staunch and True,
Rally around the Lion Flag,
the Red, and the Gold, in Hue!
Ranil speaking to his white masters in the Economist says:
1) Election fraudulent
2) There is no democracy
3) Sinhalese are split
4) No hope for “reconciliation” as if he or the economist wants that
5) Those who voted for MR were scared and did it out of force
6) Arresting Gonseka is now an "abduction".
7) Economic development is all lies and only the BoC is benefiting.
8) MR is hated and people are afraid of him.
9) Charges against Gonseka are all lies and bogus made by MR because he is afraid of Gonseka challenging PE and taking part in GE
10) West really hoped for Fonseka win/50:50 “close” race.
12) First time there had been protests against an election (yeah right first one was in the 50s and the this one was organised by this gona).
11)Loads of other bs
12) Ranil gave it in India.
Conclusion: Suddha really hates MR.
From DW;
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/Rana said...
Good bye; not here again!/
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/Parrots of Pakisland said...
Bye Rana, thanks for the your service.
For those who said I am Rana, here is some food for your lack of intelligence and insight.
I belong to a small group of people and together we post using about 25 different IDs.
Very few of them were found by you and deleted. We did so to find out how long we can fool you idiots. In many cases, with known Ids, we were able to fool up to 5 days.
That tells how smart the Parrots are.
Here is anther hint. Some of our Ids have views very close to yours and some of you are talking to us and even email us.
We are in in for long haul just to take you fools to a bite and have fun.
See u soon./
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So 25 people working round the clock against 5-6 people... just to find out some fooling time.. HIKz
Seems group has rapid growth rate too... Is that paid service? HIKz If so any way we too can join? HIKz 25->26 no big deal no? HIKz
Gonsekawa hireta dammata passe multipolarge pissuwa hondatama thada wela....
/Those so-called protesters are the ones who really don't want SF to be released in the bottom of their heart since they would lose their main GE slogan in such case./
What a GE slogan..? How come our opposition always do things so that they get less votes? They basically demand to release Gonseka because they say so. Then why do we even need a parliment to make laws, a police to do their duty and a judiciary do make judgments..?
LTTE minority (<1% of population, <10% support base) ruined 100% population for 30 years. JVP minority (<1%, <5% support base) ruined 100% two times. Do we need this sort of "democracy" ?
My Comment at The Economist
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My dear OldThomian,
Nah! That, my dear friend, was no "dismal parody" as you put it, but a small tribute from an alumnus of the venerable S.Thomas College, that has served Sri Lanka so well, to the Nation that we Thomians call HOME.
But, my dear misguided friend, that was only the first barrel; here is the full blast from both barrels:
BE THOU FOREVER, MOTHER LANKA!
Patriots Young,
Patriots Old,
Patriots Staunch and True!
Rally Round the Lion Flag,
The Red, and the Gold, in Hue!
To Your Mother Lanka Sing,
Patriots Near and Far!
Loudly Let the Echoes Ring,
For All We Have, and Are!
Esto Perpetua!
Esto Perpetua!
Esto Perpetua!
The Red and Gold Lion Flag, Forever!
This is how Fonseka violated the military law. Mangala's admission on the stage about Fonseka's illegal acts are shown below. In addition, a-holes who tried everything to stall elimination are screaming for release of Fonseka.
Friends please read my analysis
Fonseka arrest- The correct action for the country
My Comment at The Economist
My dear Sinna Sithar,
Trying to divide and rule now by stirring up caste (Govigama Vs Karawa!) as the bone of contention, now that all else has failed?
You are treading the same path as the LTTE supporters of the Tamil Diaspora before you. They stirred up every ethnic, religious, linguistic and caste issue they could in their now defunct virtualized quest for a Eelam in Sri Lanka. They did so with such single-minded passion, that long ago I penned another "dismal parody" to define it's essence. With apologies to Shakespeare, here it is:
THE EELAM WITCHES BREW!
Round about the cauldron go;
In the poisonous ingredients throw.
Gullible men illiterate and poor;
Depend on us, poor fools..they endure.
Sweated venom of RACE we got;
Boil thou first in the charmed pot.
Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble!
Fillets of a high and low CASTE snake,
In the cauldron boil and bake.
Head of Brahmin and entrails of Dalit;
Hearts Aryan and Dravidian shall fit.
Eye of Hindu and Moslem for RELIGION we take;
Tongue of Tamil and Sinhala for LANGUAGE sake.
Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble!
For charm of political demons we make,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
Add thereto a TAMIL TIGER's chaudron,
For ingredients of our COMMUNAL cauldron.
Double, double, toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and cauldron bubble!
My Comment at The Economist
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Nirvana_bound says,
"While the rest of the world may have hoped for benevolence & compassion from the victorious Rajapakse, was it a realistic expectation & hope on our part?"
I suppose you want the Government of Sri Lanka, elected by the free will of the people of Sri Lanka, to stand by idly while an unprincipled man with thuggish attitudes towards his opponents rejects the will of the People expressed in the Presidential Election, sets about intimidating people, engaging in illegal activities, and conspiring to topple the Government?
Many of his illegal activities were undertaken while he was still wearing the uniform of a Commanding Officer of the Armed Forces.
When US President Harry S. Truman was confronted and challenged politically by the enormously popular Gen. Douglas Macarthur in the midst of the Korean War, he was summarily dismissed from service by Truman. General Ridgeway, MacArthur's subordinate who replaced him, while praising MacArthur's brilliance as a military commander also added ..
"...the hunger for praise that led him on some occasions to claim or accept credit for deeds he had not performed, or to disclaim responsibility for mistakes that were clearly his own; the love of the limelight that continually prompted him to pose before the public as the actual commander on the spot...his tendency to cultivate the isolation that genius seems to require, until it became a sort of insulation...that deprived him of the critical comment and objective appraisals a commander needs...; the headstrong quality...that sometimes led him to persist in a cause in defiance of all logic; [and] a faith in his own judgment that created an aura of infallibility and that finally led him close to insubordination ..."
While Fonseka's character does not rise upto MacArthur's, Ridgeway's statement should ring a bell in our collective mind about a principal flaw we all detected in Fonseka: unbounded ambition and ego.
The American people, to their eternal credit, ultimately supported the principle that no serving officer should engage in politics while serving in the Military, and not only stopped supporting Macarthur, but turned away from him completely, consigning him to political obscurity. I quote from Wikipedia.org
"On his return from Korea, after his relief by Truman, MacArthur encountered massive public adulation, which aroused expectations that he would run for the presidency as a Republican in the 1952 election. However, a U.S. Senate Committee investigation of his removal (which largely vindicated the actions taken by President Truman), chaired by Democrat Richard Russell, contributed to a marked cooling of the public mood, and hopes for a MacArthur presidential run died away. MacArthur, in Reminiscences, repeatedly stated he had no political aspirations."
Why then, should we criticize President Mahinda Rajapaksa for upholding the same principle as US President Harry Truman did, with far greater provocation and cause?
toiletnet is STILL crying for gonzeka.
RW complains about the selective application of the law.
very funny!!
when RW was the PM, the supreme court gave the verdict on the CBSL bombing and demanded the govt to arrest VP.
ponna RW arselicked VP instead and now talking about selective application of the law.
immediately after the 2001 general election, GENERAL RATWATTE (another crook like gonzeka) was arrested for using army deserters.
immediately after the 2010 presidential election, GENERAL GONZEKA (another crook like rat-watte) was arrested for using army deserters.
Ananda,
I have seen some of these protest near malls. What do you suggest? we arrange counter protest at the same location at the same time? Any source we can find their plans in advance ?
My 1st post on Economist
http://www.economist.com/node/15491369/comments?sort=desc#sort-comments
OaO Asithri wrote:
Feb 11th 2010 2:51 GMT
Sri Lanka is today still paying the hefty price for defeating the heinous LTTE terrorists and this "Sarath Fonseka" saga is just a continuation of it. The pro-LTTE powers in the west wanted Mahinda Rajapakse to stop the war and go for another round of "peace talks" with the LTTE (that they would not dare to dream of having with Bin Laden's Al-Queida) and when Sri Lanka said "NO, enough is enough and it it time to defeat TERRORISM" the white masters in the west got annoyed and this is the vile, insidious machination of them that we see today in Sri Lanka. Sarath F was encouraged to embrace the pro-LTTE entities (such as Mano Ganeshan, Tamil National Alliance, etc.) by these white masters and as he was power-hungry, they found a willing and non-questioning sucker in him. Well, the rest is immediate history and what you see on SL streets today. I sincerely hope this populist, staunchly anti-LTTE Mahinda R govt of Sri Lanka will prevail steadfastly in the face of these relentless attacks from many quarters to bring back the LTTE TERORISM in Sri Lanka.
My 2nd post on Economist
http://www.economist.com/node/15491369/comments?sort=desc#sort-comments
OaO Asithri wrote:
Feb 11th 2010 3:06 GMT
One other note...one might ask why are these white masters in the west so desirous of bringing back LTTE TERRORISM in Sri Lanka? The answer is very simple. Most these white masters in the west are in constituencies that have huge pro-LTTE Tamil populations (of which only a tiny fraction of Tamils are genuine refugees and the rest are virtually bogus, "economic refugees" who gleefully lapped up the gullibility of the west, to the maximum) who have supported these white masters with a reciprocal agreement that went along the lines of "we vote for you, and you bat for us on the anti-SL wicket." Additionally, it is no secret that even the most prominent INGOs have been bought over by handsome dispensations from the the vast LTTE coffers (estimated to still hold over U$4Billion; fattened by crimes in the west such as banking frauds, extortion of Tamils, drug peddling, etc.) so it is not surprising that these INGOs would also go on a witch-hunt against Sri Lanka when there are more pressing hot spots on the globe that better deserve their attention.
Lanka said ..
[I have seen some of these protest near malls. What do you suggest? we arrange counter protest at the same location at the same time? Any source we can find their plans in advance ?]
Thank you for responding.
Unfortunately, I don't know where to find that info in advance. Patriots, can you help with this?
We can organize through the closed SriLankaPatriots blog. I would be happy to participate and help in organizing the counter protests.
I will start a post on this at the SLP blog.
KB, Ananada bro, et al... I see your posts too therein Economist. Kudos bros...well done! I urge all patriots to visit these sites and post counter-views to the pro-LTTE, pro-separatist whorebitches who otherwise would have a field day brainwashing the Planet Earth!
Sam/Ananda, during the lead up to May 19th (where LTTE whores and western gooks were putting pressure on our MR GOSL to pull-back from liquidating the LTTE whores) you guys published a list of "global journals" that you encouraged Patriots to visit regularly and comment...it would be real nice if you can do that again (as I feel we are on another such critical juncture in our history).
Cheers,
OaO Asithri
Patriots, Lanka,
I have created a post under the category Propaganda_Campaigns at the SriLankaPatriots Blog for organizing counter-demonstrations against the Tamil Diaspora effort to Boycott Sri Lanka Products.
Please go there and offer your ideas and assistance to do this.
Asithri said ..
[you guys published a list of "global journals" that you encouraged Patriots to visit regularly and comment...it would be real nice if you can do that again]
Good idea, bro... I will do it.
Clarification...
When I said "1st or 2nd post in Economist" I did not mean this the very first time I was doing so...rather that it was the tally for just today.
OaO Asithri
Asithri, Ananda, others,
Did you see Ranils interview on the economist?
He is the biggest scum in the country, scumseka comes just below him.
Holyeeeeee Fuckkkkkkkk me!!!
Can you get over this news item; I certainly will never be able to !!!
http://www.ucanews.com/2010/02/10/christians-protest-harassment-of-journalists
Protesters demand journalists’ freedom
Feb 11 (UCAN) Christians have joined media groups and relatives of journalists in protesting the alleged abduction, harassment and imprisonment of reporters by the Sri Lankan government. About 300 protesters, holding placards in English, Tamil and Sinhalese that read “Condemn the suppression of media” and “Release our journalists,” demonstrated in Colombo Feb. 8. They shouted that they wanted the government to allow journalists to report freely.
wow!
See the most unlikeliest place where LTTE whoredogs have infiltrted?
"UCAN" Union of Catholic Asian News!!!
Holyeeeeee Fuckkkkkkkk me!!! I say again !!!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
Yeah, can you believe in the above post where it says "Christians have joined..."
wow!
Wonder what skin color these "Christians" are?
Are they Gold skinned? Purple haired? Are they rather blue skinned with long ears and with tails?
ha ha ha...you see how simple but crass these Tamileelam whoredogs' plots are turning out to be?
ha ha ha...
If only the "Colombians" in Sri Lanka would just pause for a moment and realize what damage to Sri Lanka their idol's idol (LTTE=TNA=RW=SF) is doing today, I wonder whether they would be so naive and gullible as they are today !!!
OaO Asithri
Well said (from Adaderana comments):
"February 11, 2010 02:56 am
Even after Sarath Fonseka made a satement to the BBC that he is willing to appear in front of an International Court TO GIVE EVIDENCE AGAINST THE COUNTRY AND HIS OWN ARMY,utterly selfish and partisan people are willing to file Fundemental Rights cases and write comments on behalf of him. By giving evidence against his motherland he is just not incriminating and tarnishing the name of MR and Gotabhaya, also the whole ARMY and the country too for years to come. Only people who expected LTTE to defeat the Army and make way for a UNP govt from the resulting unpopularity and chaos will support such a person.Democracy,Media Freedom,Fundemental Rights are just catch phrases used to make way for a UNP govt.Past experience tells everybody as soon as their party is in power all those rights are suspended indefinitely and these people become see no evil ,hear no evil deaf and dumb hypocrits benefitting from their corruption and abuses.No military commander in America or England,(the countries you guys worship) up to now never said or would say such a thing even after retiring from the Army.A point to ponder before commenting just because you lost the election.
Ranaweera"
PolS
[Did you see Ranils interview on the economist?]
Not sure I saw it (saw one long ago, but I am sure that is not what you are referring to)...
So, bro, pls. post a link if you have one handy.
Bohoma Issthuthi !!!
:)) :)) :))
OaO Asithri
To give you this link Asithri i had to hear Ranilams gay sissy voice AGAIN. That is twice in one day. I feel so tainted.
YOU OWE ME! :))
http://audiovideo.economist.com/?fr_story=e9bc330de55154c76f73723b11a4c2b0159a009a
Saw the TV clips on the riot today in Colombo...
Not good...not a damn bit good.
The pro-LTTE opposition gooks were allowed to carry out violence and the Sri Lanka Police just appear to stand by !!!
Patriot Gota Rajapakse, what the hell is that may I ask of you ???
Since when did democracy mean allowing hooligans and thugs to roam city and pelt stones with impunity - right in front of Police officers ???
Do you want another "Iran" in Sri Lanka or do you want to nip such foreign orchestrated vile "protest" machinations in the bud - to safeguard our national security ???
I say nip this in the bud or else you will REGRET very soon !!!
I say nip it with "extreme prejudice"...the type that we reserve for the LTTE whores (as they are all the same).
OaO Asithri
Asithri,
This is the link to traitor Ranil's fibbing session with Economist.
PolS, Sam, thanks bros...
Yuk, yeah, I almost puked at the end of that interview.
Yes, Ranil W, the motherfucking backbonesless PONNAYA as usual spoke like the true PUUK-KOLLA (WIMP) he has always been.
Yuk!
OaO Asithri
p.s. PolS, yeah man I owe you one...will buy you a good couple of shots of the best of the best "wire water" when we hopefully meet at a bar in the not too distant future, with other patriots herein to celebrate our success of defeating the "Sinhala Prabhakaran and his sidekicks" !!!
Thanks Asithri :))
We should all gather in SL the day all these traitors are hung on Galle Face.
Lots of hard work ahead. Suddha and kalu-suddha will always try and destroy our nation.
Wests direct silence over Gonseka's arrest is intriguing. They have clearly sub contracted all that to their local lackeys here (just as they did with the LTTE). I assume they are worried that Gonseka might divulge information of their involvement, hence the attempt to "drown" it out with all the bogus protests + "demands" for his release.
If their local lackeys start to fail we will see them getting directly involved as we did after Killinochichi was captured.
guys,
the following is from toiletnet. carefully note what the fcuk they say.
LTTE terrorists' plan is this.
"Some of the fundamentals of the political task are
1. laying strong secular foundation for the unity of all Tamil speaking people,
2. shifting Tamil capital away from Colombo and developing genuine democratic institutions for our own social health and
3. to resist colonizers and their abetters."
in simple terms, LTTE terrorists' plan is this.
1. group ppl into "tamil speaking"
2. racist devolution. power sharing based on racism.
3. stop colonization.
these have DEEP meanings. #3 is straightforward.
#1 - as time passed, MOST up country tamils, MOST muslims and close to 50% north east tamils have become fluent in sinhala.
LTTE terrorists know if this continues, tamil elam, LTTE and racism are ALL stuffed.
so they want to promote "tamil speaking ppl" as a seperate group.
SL should NOT teach sinhala kids tamil unless voluntarily chosen to by these kids. the danger is not them. IF this happens the trend of tamils and muslims learning sinhala stops. there would be no need to. when 2 ppl meet they need only ONE language to communicate not 2 or 3.
#2 - there is no "tamil capital"
what they want is to grab the SL power that rules north east by cunning means. devolution, political solution, etc. are the BS names given to this grab.
#3 - surely this is further proof that recolonization is a MUST.
Moshe Dyan said ..
[IF this (i.e., Sihalese learning Tamil) happens the trend of tamils and muslims learning sinhala stops.]
Moshe, This is ABSOLUTELY TRUE!
I think you have discovered a NEW aspect of language policy that we should recognize.
My Comment at The Economist
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Ex-expat, generated3333906,
Old school politeness aside, we argue about matters of life and death for ALL of our people in Sri Lanka .. knowing full well who spawned the violence in Sri Lanka that killed over 100,000 people and brought our Nation to the brink of partition, and what forces are at work today to resurrect that anarchy in Sri Lanka.
Just reflect upon the price in blood and treasure that the US paid, nearly 150 years ago, under President Abraham Lincoln's leadership to keep the country whole in the US Civil War, and the prosperity and prestige the US enjoys today as a result of their sacrifice, and you will know what we Sri Lankan Patriots are fighting for:
ONE Nation INDIVISIBLE,
ONE People INDOMITABLE,
ONE Destiny INSEPARABLE!
Also, know this: What yielded a LANDSLIDE victory in the Presidential Election for President Mahinda Rajapaksa, when all western pundits were predicting a "tight race", was the Patriotism that is sweeping Sri Lanka today creating a paradigm shift in the way the vast majority of ordinary Sri Lankans think.
Many who don't understand this pontificate on the internet, laughing at Patriotism that binds us together, completely unaware of the pulse of the people of Sri Lanka, it's silent majority.
You will be reminded of that again on April 8, 2010 when the UPFA surges to yet another LANDSLIDE victory for the Patriotic National Forces of Sri Lanka that yearn for the day when their Motherland becomes the "New Wonder of Asia."
"Shoot if you must this old grey head,
But, spare your country's flag, she said"
From "Barbara Fretchie"
Guys,
I deleted "Lions Roar" posts when it became clear he was a multipolar avatar.
Well, frustrated from lack of access here, he is now spouting his venom against Sri Lanka at The Economist.
Anichchawata Sankara!
Ananda,
it is rather difficult to understand it from a SL pov but very eay to get it from another pov. although it is the same case with SL.
e.g.
if mexicano was popularised in the USA as a mandatory language, NO MEXICAN will ever try to learn the hard language of english!!!
this is even truer for thrid world countries.
SOME IDIOTS will learn another thrid world language whereas the cunning ppl (or clever ones) will INSTEAD put their valuable time and effort to learn ENGLISH!!! or french or chinese.
A fresh bid to accommodate JVP in UNP-led alliance
An influential section wants to prevent split in Opp. Alliance
By Shamindra Ferdinando
Island.lk
February 11, 2010
In the wake of Monday’s arrest of defeated Opposition presidential candidate, General (retd) Sarath Fonseka on conspiracy charges, the SLMC and the Western People’s Front (WPF) are vigorously pushing for an electoral pact, which can accommodate the JVP. They are of the opinion that the political alliance, which backed the former Army Chief at the recently concluded presidential polls should remain intact to meet the Rajapaksas’ challenge.
Political sources said that SLMC leader Rauf Hakeem, MP, and WPF MP, Mano Ganeshan, had told major players that a split in their alliance would be disadvantageous to them. Sources told The Island that the UNP had said that they would not compromise its decision to field candidates on the UNF (United National Front) ticket or give up the ‘elephant’ symbol. Sources said that as the UNF had not being recognised by Election Commissioner Dayananda Dissanayake, the UNF wouldn’t be on the ballot paper. Instead, candidates would be voting for the UNP and the ‘elephant’ symbol, sources said.
Sources said that Tissa Attanayake, General Secretary of the UNP, would be responsible for handling nominations of all political parties contesting the parliamentary polls.
Sources acknowledged that the JVP wouldn’t find it easy to vote for the ‘elephant’ symbol. On the other hand, the JVP faces an uphill task of securing at least a few seats on its own at the next Parliament. At the last parliamentary election, the UNP secured 39 seats, including three National List slots.
Responding to our queries, a politician close to the on-going negotiations told The Island that the National Democratic Front (NDF), through which Fonseka had contested the January 26 presidential polls would not be available for the Opposition at the coming national election. The UNP wouldn’t want to allow a section of the Opposition (Fonseka-JVP combine) to use the ‘Swan’ symbol as it could undermine its overall strategy, sources said.
The Military Police swooped down on Fonseka in the aftermath of a crucial meeting the former Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) had with Mangala Samaraweera, MP at his Rajakeeya Mawatha office, where they discussed ways and means of sorting out contentious issues, sources said. UNP leader Ranil Wickremesinghe is believed to have requested Samaraweera to explore the possibility of having Fonseka to contest the polls on the UNF/UNP ticket.
Sources said that the Fonseka-Samaraweera meeting followed a move to field candidates representing Opposition political parties, which backed Fonseka at the presidential polls, on the NDF ticket at the parliamentary elections.
Sources said that Wickremesinghe would lead the campaign as the UNF’s prime ministerial candidate.
Excellent to see Adaderana has posted Ranil traitors piece on the Economist on their site.
@dheshapaluwa
Nice analysis.
I too believe that MR/GR thought about the country instead of cheap political gain they could have made with Gonseka destroying/undermining the country with his filthy mouth. It shows clearly what kind of leadership they are and the difference in mentality, compared to Ranil/UNP/JVP.
Many Sinhalese do not see things from the "international perspective". Some are saying are saying MR/GR should have waited till after GE, after explaining the "international effect" of Gonseka on the country they went "so what". They are genuine in their concerns for the country, they want MR to get a good majority and hate Ranil for his treachery but take lightly/do not understand fully what suddha is like or tries to do. Its safe to say a lot of Sinhalese are "naive" when it comes to the operations and machinations of the West. Its the same approach that enabled Tamilia to cement to the world that they were "discriminated" while Sinhalese brushed it off as the rightful rubbish it is, they simply did nothing to counter it, and now the "discrimination" has become a fact . Same thing with the "war crimes" propaganda, they know very well none happened, so think that is enough and all is ok. At the moment it is not a "fact", however Suddhas propaganda machinery has made the "human rights" bs a "fact".
some interesting development among the SUPERPOWERS!! LOVELY!!
"Russia's ambassador to NATO said Wednesday in a post on his Twitter feed that the proverbial Russian bear would "kick the ass" of the United States and its allies if cornered by a new US missile shield.
The ambassador, Dmitry Rogozin, posted the message in response to recent reports that Moscow's Cold War ally Romania had agreed to host interceptor missiles as part of a revised US missile defence system.
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US denies defense crisis with Russia
President Barack Obama's administration Tuesday denied a row over the US anti-missile shield was slowing a landmark nuclear treaty with Moscow, after days of sharp Russian criticism of NATO. Obama also pointedly contrasted Russia's "forward leaning" approach to confronting Iran's nuclear drive with China's more ambivalent stance, as Washington sought "significant" new sanctions against Iran."
big boyz having a "kicking the ass" attitude to each other is better for smaller countries to MAINTAIN THE STATUS QUO.
they should NOT agree on anything important.
for instance SL HR BS came up for UN-P-5 discussion last year at east 2 times. everytime there was no concensus. without their 100% approval, UN cannot force any war crimes BS investigation on SL.
fantastic.
What exactly is the news on Fonseka?
Anything you can tell us Moshe?
however a region power struggle between china and india is not good for SL.
they are AGGRESSIVELY seeking PARTNERS. if SL refuse to be a partner, they will try to break up SL and join with one piece. they only want a land south of india.
but if SL carefully plays its cards, it can PROSPER in this situ.
india is closer and has a bigger influence on SL. but china being a UN P-5 matches that influence idirectly.
india has test fired a long range nuclear capable missle.
that can reach almost any part of china!!
both are very aggressively expanding their navies. navies mean SL.
PS,
clueless, mate.
i'm triyng to digest the GLOBAL and REGIONAL defence developments that are (don't laugh at me) MASSIVE.
no exaggeration, these are going to have a BIG impact on SL.
I know the "tussel" for SL macho.
This is why Suddha wants "their man" to be in Colombo as well as anarchy, instability etc etc.
Tamilia is a vital part of this, but since May19th it has been difficult with "juggernaut" of MR. So they needed to crack the juggernaut.
I am just curious what is happening now with Gonseka.
Mose:
however a region power struggle between china and india is not good for SL.
they are AGGRESSIVELY seeking PARTNERS. if SL refuse to be a partner, they will try to break up SL and join with one piece. they only want a land south of india
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This is true and it is inhumane policy. In the nuclear weapon age we cannot follow this kind of luxurious policies.
If the mankind is survive we need to follow a patriotism based on humanity. That is, Serve and save our own interests without stepping on the toes on the other Nations necks or toes.
This is utopionism but if we want to survive as a species this has to become the norm.
guyz,
think about this.
is this a possibility????
1. you remember GONZEKA'S legendary rift with the navy commander????
2. he was the first gonz fought.
3. why???
4. was gonz directed by the US puppetteers to bash the SL navy following china in hambantota, TN fishermen complaining that there were chinese men among the SLN who ASSaulted them,SLAF/SLN trying many times to buy chinese 3D radars,.......
5. SUDDENLY USA gave SL a warship in 2004!!! although close to scrap, this was the first time we got such an important navel asset from the USA.
by then US knew of the chinese "necklace of pearls strategy" which was revealed by the CIA to NYT.
wow!!
6. at the same time US puppeteers directed gonz on an ARSE LICKING MISSION to china where he bought US$200 million worth military stuff from china. ridiculously HIGH. higher than the TOTAL defence capital budget of US$185 million!!!
obviously it does not make sense to SL, but to gonz's arselicking plan it made perfect sense.
bugger tried to brush aside ANY suspicion china may have had on him.
when the order was cancelled, the chinese company made NO GESTURE of disappointment. did they know????
7. gonzeka was ARSE fucked by the voters of SL. this was not given a big news status in china unlike in the pro-US camp. why???
8. gonzeka operated a RUSSIAN weapons buying and selling company from the USA!!! this is against the US law.
15 canadian tamils were arrested by FBI for supplying weapons to LTTE.
one jew and a englishman was arrested by UK last week for supplying weapons to SL. US has a similar ban selling OFFENSIVE weapons to SL.
US CERTAINLY knew gonz's company and what they were doing. it was in US trading newspapers too!!!
WHY oh WHY did the US follow a SOFT approach to gonz?????
9. gonz won a greed card in the DV lottery the first time he tried!!
mamamia!! how strange. they say its all (100%) computer generated but many have doubted it even b4.
did the US got their pawn close to them so that they can manipulate the bugger EASILY???
10. robert blake had MANY ROUNDS of "discussions" with gonz PRIVATELY in 2008.
what the hell was so private???
11. IF US gets involved in SL, mark my word, it will be a matter of a short time since russia too got involved in SL.
MR's first visit first election was to india. his first visit after reelection was to russia.
and russia has already sealed an UNNECESSARY (???) weapons deal with SL!!!!
Moshe, AT says the deal was more and that SL benefitted.
AT reveleaded many things about Gonseka when many were skeptical, and they turned out to be true.
The visit also saw the finalization of two Agreements. The first, an MOU for the promotion of mass communications, is aimed at augmenting people-to-people contact and cultural relations between the two countries. The other relates to a line of credit for 300 million US Dollars which will be used among others for the purchase of multi-purpose equipment including for defence.
Russia revealed last week a stealth plane, the PAK-FA, maybe we can get our hands on that hehe :))
My Comment at DBSJ's Blog
It is very interesting how people who cheered the LTTE's ethnic cleansing, bombings, murders, and torture of thousands in the vast Wanni Gulag, are preaching here about lack of "democracy" in Sri Lanka!
Not one of you "Democ-Rats" cried foul when the LTTE was doing that, but now all of you are piling in here criticizing the Government of Sri Lanka that eradicated terrorism and brought peace to the Nation!
I'll tell you a secret: All of you guys are Incurable Eelamists nursing your anger about the disappearance of your racist apartheid state in Sri Lanka, and trying your darnest to undermine and execute a "Regime Change" so you can resurrect the vanished Eelam.
DREAM ON for it will NEVER HAPPEN!. Sitting in foreign lands, you guys don't understand that a Wave of Patriotism has swept Sri Lanka and caused a Paradigm Shift within the hearts and minds of ordinary Sri Lankans; it's silent majority, not the keyboard warriors of the blogsphere.
On April 8, 2010, the people of Sri Lanka will hand the UPFA another LANDSLIDE victory, and we can proceed with converting Sri Lanka into the "New Wonder lof Asia" with a vision of
ONE Nation INDIVISIBLE,
ONE People INDOMITABLE,
ONE Destiny INSEPARABLE!
Then ALL communities of Sri Lanka, our Sinhala, Tamil, Muslim , Buddhist, Hindu and Christian brothers and sisters will be able to live in peace with EQUAL RIGHTS and EQUAL RESPONSIBILITIES to LOVE, DEFEND and NUTURE the Motherland.
No COMMUNAL RABBLE ROUSERS of ANY KIND will be TOLERATED in Sri Lanka.
You guys can keep wailing in Virtual Eelam and bite your nails to the bone marrow in YOUR FRUSTRATION, but ordinary Sri Lankans will PROSPER IN PEACE!
su,
agree but the AVERAGE global politicians' are not that developed yet.
if you didn't know.............
global warming has DEFENCE implications.
what???
yes.
how???
with global warming MOST countries are going to suffer landlessness, reduction in arable land, water shortages, etc.
then each of those countries are going to KILL EACH OTHER FOR THESE RESOURCES (become animals in the jungle).
THERE IS NO political system or an economic system in the world that look at problems from a GLOBLE pov.
few world leaders meeting for a few days in a fancy city is not that. they go back to NATIONAL political/economic systems anyway!!!!
for us (humans) ANYTHING can end up in war.
SL, in this context, must cover its arse using the means and technologies avilable and using the SAME systems used by other countries.
e.g. religion ---> wars
industrial revolution, etc. ----> war (clonialism)
different economic theories (capitalism/maxism) ----> war
space race ----> war
olympics ----> war (1972, 1980 boycot, 1984 boycot)
global warming ---> war
technology development ----> war
oil ----> war
uranium ---> war
diamond ---> war
gold (rush) ---> war
arctic exploration ---> war
antarctic exploration ---> war
weapons companies have the BRIGHTEST future!!
Ananda-USA said...
Moshe Dyan said ..
[IF this (i.e., Sihalese learning Tamil) happens the trend of tamils and muslims learning sinhala stops.]
Moshe, This is ABSOLUTELY TRUE!
I think you have discovered a NEW aspect of language policy that we should recognize.
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I am not sure about that. Once English becomes the common language of SL, the Tamils would not have any reason to pick up Sinhalese.
Learning Tamil by Sinhalese would teach every one mutual respect and that is a good thing to have.
pol,
since it was developed by india and russia together, i doubt we can get it.
it took 12 years for russia to copy the F-117 stealth bomber since it captured the debris.
strange it was named "PAK" and "FA". both enemy terms for BOTH countries??????
Traitor and scum Ranil said that "even pro-MR Hindu in India blah blah".
Isn't it amazing how these tards think? Its all about power, their image and party (all three of which suck for Ranil in SL)
Moshe,
I was joking about us getting the PAK-FA.
I didn't know India was involved/funding.
I thought they were trying to get the JSF/it was also offered if India's Air Force upgrade tender programme (whatever its called) selected US made Aircraft.
thusitha,
1. "Learning Tamil by Sinhalese would teach every one mutual respect and that is a good thing to have."
of course. this is why we should not block anyone doing so voluntarily.
but there are MORE PRODUCTIVE ways to build mutual respect.
e.g. banning racism in politics.
e.g. if you are living in aus (i believe you are), how many national languages are there for 150 nationalities???
ONE. this ONE unifies them ALL.
2. if any IDIOT thinks everyone being fluent in tamil will resolve the SL problem think again. look at tamils!!!!
jaffna tamils treat upcountry tamils and batticaloa tamils like shitt.
even among them vellala and non-vellala ppl have SEVERE problems.
upcountry tamils NEVER shared the tamil elam project. they were heavily marginalised by tamil elamists.
they found the SOLUTION speaking in sinhala!!
batticaloa tamils were the next to shed it.
tamil elamists even TOTALLY screwed TAMIL SPEAKING muslims in 1990!!!
they found the SOLUTION speaking in sinhala instead.
finally, tamil elamists GENOCIDED tamil speaking sinhalas in the north fcuking completely!!
peaceful tamil elamists clapped at this and blamed COLONIZATION for it!!!
so tamil speaking is not THE solution. (although learning any language is good, even ZULU.)
3. instead of learning tamil, sinhalas can learn english. instead of leanring sinhala, tamils can learn english.
then it benefits BOTH!!!
4. only 5% SL's who can speak tamil cannot speak sinhala. 95% SLs can speak sinhala. whereas only 35% can speak tamil.
which BLOODY IDIOT would force 65% to learn a language when the SAME result can be achieved by teaching the 5% sinhala!!!!
5. if we do NOTHING this happens ANYWAY as it happened for 2,500 years. that is the PEOPLE'S solution.
pol,
POWER - MR
priority list.
1. masculine POWER
2. people's POWER
3. country's POWER
4. party's POWER (HE WAS NOT EVEN THE PARTY LEADER WHEN HE WON IN 2005)
POWER - RW
priority list.
1. party's POWER (even if it loses elections under him)
2. country's POWER (by hook or by crook)
3. people's POWER (if power can be grabbed with ppl, RW doesn't care)
4. masculine POWER
the EXACT oppositte.
RW fought hard to retain the TOP SCUM position when it was under threat from emerging top anti national scum gonzeka.
thusitha,
sorry about my french, mate, but,
"Learning Tamil by Sinhalese would teach every one mutual respect"
is SOOOOO funny!!
the MUTUAL RESPECT shown to tamil speaking upcountry tamils, tamil speaking muslims by "tamils" is UNFORGETABLE and never ending!!! OMG!!
even the mutual respect shown by them to tamil speaking tamil nadu ppl in malaysia (although they travelled in the same boat) is even more facinating.
until this date they maintain that tamil madu tamils are dirty, filthy, lower, stupid and discriminate against them in malaysia. strangely there are more sinhalas in malaysia than "ceylon tamils" today!!!!
doing the same (mistake) and expecting a different result is a sign of a fonseka.
Today my boss reprimanded me. I made an appeal to the troops not to get provoked by this and maintain calmness.
Since the troops did not do a coup over the reprimand against me it proves that troops follow my order.
This is a trick I learn from SFist logic.
SF has made an appeal to troops to maintain calm and not to be provoked over his arrest. (Dialy Mirror)
The PAK-FA still has a lot of work to do, to reach mass production stage.
Even the final version of the PAK-FA will not be able to match the F-22. The PAK-FA is pretty much an attempt of the russians to copy F-22, but I doubt it can even hold up against the F-35.
The F-22 is so formidable that it will take sometime for others to produce a plane to match it. By then the US will be producing 6th gen aircraft.
GE,
agree about this PAK-FA thingy.
but US scrapped funds for the F22 raptor.
gates with ALOT of effort saved the F35.
and don't go by this "generations" thing. it has NOTHING to do with capabilities.
didn't we says so???
1. Speaking candidly but harshly about Fonseka, Gotabaya rubbished claims that Fonseka played a key role in the military victory over the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) in May last year. “What he achieved we could have done with any other commander. There were better officers.”
2. Rajapaksa also linked Fonseka with the chilling January 2009 murder of Sri Lankan editor Lasantha Wickrematunge.
“We know there was no other person (involved). You have to see the circumstances. Some of the media people harmed had never criticized any other person except him or people close to him. Nothing happened to those who had been criticizing me or the president.
they STILL critisice the president and NOTHING happens.
another strange thing, when gonz retired ALL strange attacks on media personnel STOPPED. now isn't that strange??
ranil,
links.
1. the ratwatte case is IDENTICAL as far as the deserters are concerned. you know what happened and what SHOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
2. here you get FIRST HAND info if you care to watch it till end.
3. nope. that doctor's word has no validity. even my word has no validity for that matter!!!
what matters is the PRESCRIPTION. show us the prescription.
on a lighter note, so far gonz missed more than 7 doses. nothing happened!!!
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and mind you, this is ONLY the legal verdict.
the political verdict has already been delivered.
and the moral verdict was delivered by none other than SF himself over the TV with colourful words like kalawedda, paharaya, balla, " u katu kannage makka", etc.
SF is the SECOND politician to use this term "katu levakanna". he has a song. click here.
Following SFist logic I can prove that even USA President follows my command.
I am making a special request from USA President not to resign over the admonishment against me by my boss today ant to maintain calm, law and order. I request that President even does not utter a word about this.
See the USA President has not said anything and has not even uttered a word. This proves that the President follow my orders.
A lesson from SFism.
SF has made a special request for troops to maintain calm.
I would have given SF some credit if he had asked this from UNPers, JVPers and Ranil.
This is just to show others that Army did not come to street not because they did not care but because SF asked them not to.
Another Lesson from SFist Logic.
We know(by SFist logic) that the presidential election result has been rigged by none other than the Election Commissioner under the threat of gun violence. Election Commissioner has refused it not because it did not happen but because the Government did it in a manner that even Mr. Disanayaka can never be aware of this.
Then someone writing Sri Lankan Guardian challanged Mr. Disanayaka to go to a foreign Country and make the statement. Since then it is reported that Mr. Disanayaka is in Nepal.
SFist logicians can explain this. Their explainations could go like this.
(1) The government is clever enough to make the impression that Mr. Disanayaka is in Nepal even though he is actually kept in captivity with threat of gun violence.
(2) Actually this Nepal is not really Nepall.It is just a room of Temple Trees. But everone feels like that this is real Nepal.
(3) No paper has reported this but everone feels that it has been reported due to the power of this corrupt Government.
One should think why this vicious campaign of rumours? Against whoM/
Rtd. Gen. Sarath Fonseka will face immediate court martial for treason and he can be jailed for up to five years, the country’s Defence Secretary Gotabaya Rajapaksa said in an interview published Thursday.
Rajapaksa, a brother of President Mahinda Rajapaksa, also told Singapore’s Straits Times that Fonseka had planned to impose military rule and his candidature in the presidential election that he lost was backed by the US and Norway.
Speaking candidly but harshly about Fonseka, Gotabaya rubbished claims that Fonseka played a key role in the military victory over the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) in May last year. “What he achieved we could have done with any other commander. There were better officers.”
Fonseka was arrested Monday after being charged with conspiring against the government of Mahinda Rajapaksa, his former friend, and creating rifts in the army. Fonseka’s supporters have denied the charge.
The younger Rajapaksa, who as defence secretary oversaw the war against the Tigers, said Fonseka would be charged under the Army Act. “Under the Army Act, any officer can be charged under military act within six months of leaving the military. There are other things we will do under civil code.”
He went on: “The court martial will begin immediately after the assembling of the summary of evidence is done. I don’t know how long it will take because that depends on lawyers. But we want to finish it soon. In less than six months maybe. The severity of the charges is very high. He can be put in jail for as long as five years.”
Rajapaksa said Fonseka worked with politicians and tried to win them over while holding the Chief of Defence Staff assignment. “This was completely wrong because he was sitting in Security Council meetings. It amounts to treason.”
“He was planning military rule... He was completely trying to isolate the politics and take the country on a different path... In his very last stages as army commander he began bringing his people into Colombo and his regiment, positioning his senior regiment people all over... All these things were looking like a military coup,” said Rajapaksa.
The president’s brother accused a section of the West of conspiring with Fonseka, who has accused the Rajapaksa brothers of war crimes in the military campaign against the LTTE.
“We are 100 percent convinced that Western countries with vested interests were backing him. Even the US, and countries like Norway, spent lots of money on his campaign.
“I have proof of the Norwegian government paying journalists to write against the government,” he said. “They have vested interests and used to support the Tamil Tigers in various ways. They also supported Fonseka to try oust the government.”
Rajapaksa also linked Fonseka with the chilling January 2009 murder of Sri Lankan editor Lasantha Wickrematunge.
“We know there was no other person (involved). You have to see the circumstances. Some of the media people harmed had never criticized any other person except him or people close to him. Nothing happened to those who had been criticizing me or the president.
“We have a clue whom he has used (in the killing). We are very convinced. In fact, I know for sure. He was definitely responsible for five or six cases (of disappearances) where media people were involved. Now I am going after the people who did the executions. The truth will come out very soon.”
From one of my sources(I don't know how credible this was) I got some news that SF tried to come up with war crimes against Defense Secretary with the help of Defense column writer in weekly Sinhala news paper(this should be Thissa Ravindra Perera who works Rivira I guess).
According the mentioned journalist was to fly Genewa, Switzerland with documented proof.
What do you guys think about this news, is it have a credibility?
Also any idea regarding whereabouts of Thissa Ravindra Perera?
The article below tried to say that Fonseka's dilemma has a caste dimension. The vast majority of people commenting disagreed and criticized him mercilessly!
More interestingly, blogger Sinna Thurai, who Konnapu and I have been battling at The Economist, tried to use this as a wedge to divide the Sinhalese .. and was confronted by us and by others.
The moral of the story is this: Sri Lankans should close ranks and present a united front without exposing any weaknesses to the enemy, as Fonseka did, for they will exploit it to destroy us.
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Fonseka arrest and the Govigama-Karawe caste equation in Sinhala society
Fonseka appeals for calm - Anoma
This is a very sinister message from Pissu Fonseka. It appears that he wants to project an image that troops think that he is the elected president. Otherwise, his brain got to be totally whacked to request troops after the latest betrayal of troops in front of BBC. Perhaps he is begging troops not to punish his too hard. Otherwise, "the troops" he is talking about are the green monkeys and sakkili donkeys.
Rasika,
I believe that it was Ranil Wijyapala and Rukmal Gamage of Lake house. That pair was in Fonseka's Cinnamon Grand command center on 26th night.
Asking for calmness from troops SF revealis egomania that he is the Genuine True Sun God the Second. He has no place in asking Army to stay calm. What he says is that Army is at his command. He could ask this from his political followers.If he dis only that I would have given some credit.
This reveals his militari and Pol Pottist Idi Aministic Mania.
SF has made an appeal to troops to maintain calm and not to be provoked over his arrest. (Dialy Mirror)
Whats this idiot talking about? Does he mean he wanted "the troops" to launch a coup if he is arrested?
Or is he nuts and still think he is commander and has fallen for his own bs that "90% of the Military support me"?
Sam,
Gonsekas statemet is an admission that they sparked the violence by getting their supporters (JVP mutts) into a frenzy by claiming first he was "abducted" followed up by Mrs Gonseka crocodile tear water works.
Must read Sam and others:
sarath fonseka supporters incite and welcome violence
http://llibertarian.blogspot.com/2010/02/sarath-fonseka-supporters-incite-and.html
[[This is a very sinister message from Pissu Fonseka. It appears that he wants to project an image that troops think that he is the elected president. Otherwise, his brain got to be totally whacked to request troops after the latest betrayal of troops in front of BBC. Perhaps he is begging troops not to punish his too hard. Otherwise, "the troops" he is talking about are the green monkeys and sakkili donkeys.]]
Well, SF wants ppl and factions of Army to start rioting. This is what it reads out. SF is a horrible MF who's such a shame to all his upbringing.
Nevertheless, I think it is a very stupid act by govt to arrest him.
- If arrested and put in jail, they can portray a political prisoner out of him, and use it to crate a Mandela in jail image.
- If arrested and released after court martial failing to conclude on crimes, they can portray a Mandela freed.
- If MR is compelled to grant his release, that will be turned into a defeat to dirty attempts of govt.
- If tried with court martial it can be called an opportunist and biased trial [even if it is not].
- If there is any mistake a slightest one, they can get Supreme Court support on HR basis [Most of SL's HR lawyers are working in the evil clan]
Only advantage I see is the blocking of witnessing any UN or Kangaroo-Pussycat court on War Crimes. But having him behind bars can be used as a big evidence for the pussycat propa campaign.
Having not been arrested he would compete the two big ranks of the traitor of nation with RW, and joker of nation with Wikarabahu
What a foolish decision to arrest him.
OTOH i don't think ppl like lucky algama, janaka perera, denzil, etc. used such words for the slightest provokation.
unlike some of them SF wasn't educated. they went to WESTPOINT but i don't think SF did.
we can only imagine how he had treated army officers and soldiers under him. the saying, "jonny in front, fonny at the back", makes TRUE sense now.
GR, knowing that elam war-3 is going to be the bloodiest (per year average SLA casualties) appointed SF. through him GR pushed his ruthless plans to victory.
initially in the northern front GR gave a daily harvesting quota of 15tigers, SF achieved it. then it was raised to 35 and again SF did with task forces, new brigades, multiple fronts, etc.
the MAD and MANIC confidence SF places on himself and his soldeirs through cruel and CRAZY command which we see now was a HUGE ASSET in war. this MANIC confidence played a role in winning the war although some others could also have matched it.
but when SF planned battles, they ended up in disaster.
e.g. muhamalai.
GR lacked the army "driving" skills of SF though he was the mastermind.
a bloody good combination but a clash is inevitable.
[[Today my boss reprimanded me. I made an appeal to the troops not to get provoked by this and maintain calmness.
Since the troops did not do a coup over the reprimand against me it proves that troops follow my order.
This is a trick I learn from SFist logic.]]
Beauty SU.
SK,
"Nevertheless, I think it is a very stupid act by govt to arrest him."
you are behaving like an OSTRICH threatened by a cobra.
burry your head in deep sand and the cobra will screw you easily.
if gonz was not arrested he could still have done rioting.
and that would be worse. he would use 1,500 ARMED army deserters too in that riot.
his ruthless dirty plans will drive them.
not anymore.
if gonz supporters start a 1983 type riot, i won't be surprised.
1. that will discredit SL maximum.
2. gonz's 1958 hatred for tamils will have a let out.
3. amidst all this violence the govt MIGHT collapse.
if govt acts quickly, they can QUASH many more troublmakers totally crippling the UNP ahead of polls.
MD;
[[if gonz was not arrested he could still have done rioting]]
Rioting is no big issue even right now. Problem is with the position of the country and govt. And the end result.
[[and that would be worse. he would use 1,500 ARMED army deserters too in that riot.]]
By the time of arrest SF had no such strength. But I'm sure he'd try. But a 1500 army deserters rioting for say, PE "jilmart" is a minor incident. I believe MOD was with right control of army and the "coup" was avoided by then.
[[his ruthless dirty plans will drive them.]]
It will. But SF himself is a fool who could be another negative pole for popularity.
What matters now is that there was a defeated and scattered evil force consisting foreign, pussycat and anti SL elements, which was about to break apart. Arrest gave them a common reason to gather and work together. Again I see not much in rioting, but they have a common objective now. The battle will be mostly legal, and result will be measured in who's getting the end humiliation of the act.
Moshe;
Re: Riots
[[if gonz supporters start a 1983 type riot, i won't be surprised.]]
If you remember my remark on riots a day ago. It was just proven. Riots are very minute in scale. Only teh "mobile riot squads" of JVP was extremely active. UNP is participating only to boost chances in the GE. Mongala is a backrow participator, and few SF die-hards are running the show with JVP. In a month they will be lost in logical wilderness, on whether or not to riot.
Anoma's tears can't beat teh mega-teledrama tears. We're a nation trained for tears.
I rule out the significance of riots completely.
But it gave a good point for all the ppl with vested interest to agitate, work together and plan ahead. Previously they were lost and infighting.
Rasika said...
From one of my sources(I don't know how credible this was) I got some news that SF tried to come up with war crimes against Defense Secretary with the help of Defense column writer in weekly Sinhala news paper(this should be Thissa Ravindra Perera who works Rivira I guess).
Isn't Rivira publications pro-MR?
Wasn't Keith Noyar from Rivira publications?
Re: Tissa Ravindra Perera
He was a strong SF supporter when SF was CDS. And it was evident from his acts that he wanted to glorify SF with the entire war victory.
But after that I lost touch about him. Dunno what he's upto now.
(Whoops I wrote this in the other blog)
Moshe;
To me the only positive reason for his arrest is the blocking of his creative stories on war crimes. But I wonder how they are gonna avoid it by keeping him behind bars. A prisoner is still free to make statements, and notably, to leak "information", which is in fact the stories he'd co-write with pussycat & co.
The diff is, previously they may come out as, "Information from defeated PE candidate, and former commander". now teh parties will call them, "information from the political prisoner, and former commander"
Which one is more powerful?
SK,
It doesn't matter what he is (prisoner or not).
The West will use whatever he says simply because he was the Army Commander at the time. That is the whole point in him being "chief witness".
The bretrayal he did with SundayLeader -despite Gonseka's quick denial-, is still being used. Everyone (Times, Channel 4, Alston) jumped on it there and then.
Government will always respond if he was in jail or not, "this is the words of a liar". In fact its easier for the Government dismiss what Gonseka says when in jail/released from jail (assuming he goes in and whenever that he comes out) "he is a liar" by adding that he is "bitter and wanting revenge for imprisonment so will say anything". This discrediting him is easier with him coming out of jail than if he never went in. Furthermore you will notice Western countries are silent (they are not being "direct" with their demands as in previous occations), i believe that for now they are "worried" he might reveal connections between him and them + gather evidence OR have their "chief witness" tainted, by revealing Gonseka as Wests agent/"paid to say this by the West". In fact couple both together (revenge on GR/MR + paid by West/Wests agent) will discredit the war crimes bs from his mouth and expose the West (already GR has done this with linking the West to funding Fonseka).
Gonsekas arrest happened as soon as he gave the BBC "interview".
He gave the BBC interview to undermine the Government team in Geneva who had to "answer" for Fonseka's earlier SundayLeader statements (West was sticking to it). Someone instructed him to do it then and there.
The Government had no choice. As Dheshapaluwa pointed out in his blog, and i too believe, MR/GR thought about the country instead of cheap political gain they could have made with Gonseka destroying/undermining the country with his filthy mouth.
PolS;
Boosting his position matters, since although his past role as a Commander grants him authority, the current position only assures the level of validity that gets stamped in one's mind.
Opposition may or maynot get it going. As usual they're like Andi hath denage kenda heliya. Only JVP does work, but they lack brains. But if they want they can create a huge legal case and paint a pic of a Mandela of Aun Sang Syu Ki out of this.
For good or bad, everyone has GE to worry about.
True they will try a Mandela or Aun Sung-whatever to be made out of this.
However Gonseka's military background dampens that.
Mandela was a race thing (black Vs white)
Aun Sung is a civilian fighting military rule.
Here we have a military-type person fighting civilian rule.
I see the GE slogans for the opposition being "free Gonseka" and "democracy" (much like the PE being "change" and "clean governance") and i have a feeling it will not be successful simply because it is the same loser/traitor alliance at work.
If the Government is successful with charging Fonseka, importantly exposing his link to West (no matter how small that is) then the Fonseka thing for the opposition will be a bigger flop.
Post GE we will see the opposition collapse again (assuming they come together now).
Government has done something which no other Government would have done at such a crucial time, they put the country first despite the obvious cost.
We cannot have this nut Gonseka continue to undermine the country with his bs about war crimes. If the Government plays its card right they can come out on top and forever prevent him being a credible "witness".
People,
I post comments at Daily Mirror and they do not get published lately. Anyone else experiencing that?
Also, in the DBSJ blog, a person called 'Siribirs' had some good comments. Anyone of you did that? If not, should invite him/her to this blog. Seemed to articulate very well.
DailyMirror?
They make sure the majority gush for Gonseka/UNP and toss in one or two from the other camp to make it look like they are impartial.
AdaDerana allows comments from everyone, you even have UNPers/SF supporters trying to hijack the comment section while accusing the site of being "pro-MR" and complain. That maybe true, yet they have no issues with DailyMirror, LankaEnews, SundayLeader.
Typical hypocrisy of the kalu-suddhas. Just like how they wanted Fonseka to be taken to Geneva, the LTTE to win and the Army destroyed during the war are now praising him. They demanded "if he is guilty of coup/corruption why not arrest him", when he is arrested they howl and scream.
They are indeed perfect copies of their suddha masters. They simply pick up and use what they want, then when they are done throw it away. You see this behaviour from the West how they prop up nations then tear them down, how their media which found Fonseka guilty of "war crimes" suddenly call him "the man who won the war".
PolS;
Those who could made the tamils vote for SF, can surely convince the world about the "innocence" of SF.
GE is a local matter, and local platfrom right now is well under GOSL ctrl. It is no concern.
My worry is international arena, and the parties who relentlessly work in destroying SL. Also the sympathy that indirectly flows towards pussycats.
We all know that many wanted to paint an Iran, Burma or Zimbabwe on SL. They will use the Fonseka case, even if we do the fairest of trials to him, regardless the end result of teh trial either.
Its a difficult situation SK.
Government has to pay some price.
I guess we will have to "wait and see" as our die-ass-pora experts used to always tell us.
Government has to play its cards right,and i think for something as delicate as this it will.
Tiger Tiger Burnt Out! said...
People,
I post comments at Daily Mirror and they do not get published lately. Anyone else experiencing that?
Also, in the DBSJ blog, a person called 'Siribirs' had some good comments. Anyone of you did that? If not, should invite him/her to this blog. Seemed to articulate very well.
Yep they selectively publish comments.
I published a comment about criticizing their point system for comments. It was never published.
In one of their SF's arrest articles pro-SF comments had pretty high points. So I tried to reduce the point by one, but to my suprise instead it increased by one.
Also I tried with another comment which is supporting MR(it had -45 points) and I responded negatively and the new score was -54.
Most of the time plus score was added by +3 instead of +1.
I published a comment accusing them on this and it never got published.
So not only they post comments selectively but also they manipulate comments point system too.
Aung Sang Suu Kyi or Nelson Mandela
Fonseka cannot be either of them in world's eye.
Nelson Mandela was the anti-apartheid leader imprisoned by white conquerors. He never commanded a military force nor tried to stage a military coup. Also Mandela never whined about losing an election by a massive margin. In fact, there was no election for Mandela to compete.
Aung Sang Suu Kyi is the figurehead civilian leader imprisoned by a military regime. She never commanded a military force nor tried to stage a military coup. She is the ideological opposite of Fonseka.
In politics, Fonseka has the inherent disadvantage of being a suppressive military commander in the past who is being prosecute in military courts. Therefore, it is very unlikely that he can pull a Suu Kyi or a Mandela.
@Sam
I believe that it was Ranil Wijyapala and Rukmal Gamage of Lake house. That pair was in Fonseka's Cinnamon Grand command center on 26th night
Sam actually I don't have that much idea about these two.
Isn't the Ranil Wijepala the one who was sacked for reporting SF's tamilnadu joker comment?
Among the Sinhala Sunday weekly defence news reporters the only pro-SF writer that I found is Thissa Ravindra Perera.
Top Scum of Sri Lanka trying to instigate Malwaththa Temple to release the top scum Fonseka (check 7:15, Link 2). Scum like Samaraweera does not even follow Buddhism, let alone Hakeem and Ravi.
' Rasika said...
So not only they post comments selectively but also they manipulate comments point system too.'
Thats right. i tried to add some points to a comment that had -45 and i did not see the positive numbers go up.
TTBO and Rasika,
I and another blogger called Ali too have experienced the same in Daily Mirror and DBSJ. Jeyaraj simply doctors the comments a self congratulatory comment. That is criminal in all known forms of journalism. daily Mirror is very close to DBSJ.
From the Asia Times... what planet are the journalists from. Reminds me of the artcles some folks made up about the war when it was on.
'The arrest on Monday of Sri Lanka's former army commander and defeated presidential candidate General Sarath Fonseka by military police on vague charges of "committing military offences" removes a challenger to the government before parliamentary elections this April at which Fonseka was planning to emerge as a rallying figure for the opposition.'
Removes a challenger???? He did not have a party to contest! Nor a vote to cast for him self!
I really hope the UNO and the JVP wont contest together. If the JVP goes it alone, it will suffer a real big loss and that will be such a good things. A very destructive force.
One racist, bitter sounding article from Tamilnet accusing everyone of being against them. Oh, how they must be missing the Thalaivar, the fighting formations of the LTTE, the elite leopard commandos... the victor anti-tank units...
http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=99&artid=31177
Oh wow... from tamilnet
The way totalitarianism pervades the south, a time may come even the Sinhalese have to be protected by Tamils and our political foundations need to be laid with wider perspectives of inclusion and universality.
Timing of arrest of SF is bad for the govt. If the charges are true, and they are serious enough, he should have been arrested earlier, or after the General Election.
If arrest of the General is related to GE, it is a very bad decision. The govt. already had the election in their bag, and SF was fading out as a politician. Arrest will revive him, and create unnecessary trouble for Sri Lanka.
Sujeewa Kokawala said...
Moshe;
Re: Riots
[[if gonz supporters start a 1983 type riot, i won't be surprised.]]
If you remember my remark on riots a day ago. It was just proven. Riots are very minute in scale. Only teh "mobile riot squads" of JVP was extremely active. UNP is participating only to boost chances in the GE. Mongala is a backrow participator, and few SF die-hards are running the show with JVP. In a month they will be lost in logical wilderness, on whether or not to riot.
Anoma's tears can't beat teh mega-teledrama tears. We're a nation trained for tears
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Finally, you guys are starting to understand the power of the people.
War crimes, asssasination attempts, overthrowing governments are irrelevent. This is what I kept saying as soon as I saw SFs arrest.
First biggest threat to the nation to SL was VP. The second biggest threat to SL is the arrest of SF. Think for a second something happen to SF while under custody (which, I think is a possibility, either by a stupid reaction of an some one guarding SF or by someone who want SL destroyed). That would be end of MR and MR Clan. People in SL would never allow MR or GR to govern the nation.
So, what is the treat? GR/SS e.t.c. charged under war crimes? Is this dangerous? Not at all. If I weight the two options up, war crime charges would be really good for SL. This would destroy SF in the eyes of Sri Lankan public. Also SL would become more patriotic when they see war heroes like SS, CG, e.t.c. being dragged in to war crimes tribunals.
Therefore government should stop this madness and let SF go.
Pol Sambol said...
Its a difficult situation SK.
Government has to pay some price.
I guess we will have to "wait and see" as our die-ass-pora experts used to always tell us.
Government has to play its cards right,and i think for something as delicate as this it will.
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Government has got no cards. It is a loose loose situation. Government is going to loose face. The question is by how much.
As I stated earlier, arresting SF is one thing, killing few people while rioting is another thing, which is bound to happen if rioting goes on.
I have no idea what SL would do since I am not in SL. But my guess is rioting would continue and it would become ugly. And JVP, and UNP would do their level best to get few people killed by police.
UNP to contest general election under elephant symbol
JVP day dreams shattered !!!
Moshe Dyan said...
thusitha,
sorry about my french, mate, but,
"Learning Tamil by Sinhalese would teach every one mutual respect"
is SOOOOO funny!!
the MUTUAL RESPECT shown to tamil speaking upcountry tamils, tamil speaking muslims by "tamils" is UNFORGETABLE and never ending!!! OMG!!
even the mutual respect shown by them to tamil speaking tamil nadu ppl in malaysia (although they travelled in the same boat) is even more facinating.
until this date they maintain that tamil madu tamils are dirty, filthy, lower, stupid and discriminate against them in malaysia. strangely there are more sinhalas in malaysia than "ceylon tamils" today!!!!
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Not at all MD. You are welcome to comment. You are looking at past generations. People had very narrow views of the world. Also living in an Island, we had the Island mentality and therefore have no clue that there was a world around us (I mean a large majority who could not travel).
Learning a language would not do any good if you just do it by studying it at home. But if you learn it by getting friendly with the people of that culture, which is bound to happen it would change the way people would think about each other.
You may be right to think that there are better ways to integrate the cultures by making them Sinhalese. But I wonder whether that would work as most of the people would be using English as a common language to communicate in future.
@Thusitha
I think best solution for protests is banning protest under emergency law for at least 2 weeks.
Some comments on Daily Mirror article titled US, Norway deny Gota claims
# Shiromi 2010-02-11 20:06
I am glad Norway & USA responded to these accusations. They tell these pack of lies to Sri Lankan people to collect the votes. Dirty game
# Wijesiri 2010-02-11 20:07
Gota you are digging the well to SL !!!!!!! MADA NANAWA.
# ranjith 2010-02-11 20:07
Punish this fool. Shame to Sri Lankans. They are digging their graves them selves.
# Thushara 2010-02-11 20:37
Gotaa.. please do not consult our country more.. and plerase go home..
THIS HAPPENS WHEN UNEDUCATED RULES THE COUNTRY
Is it so, then would you please let us know who funded MR's election campaign?
# Ratnapala 2010-02-11 21:02
Gota! Gota! There should be a limit to lying Sir! U vcant deceive the public everyday.
# Adam 2010-02-11 21:02
Gota is a American citizen he is the one trying to ruin Sri Lanka not other people around it The American embassy must take action against thi
Sam/Pol/Thusitha;
Re: Mandela and Syu Ki
I agree that SF has no real qualifications to be any of them. In simple, he's held for genuine crimes not bogus or no crimes like in teh case of other two. But for a movement whom used kataragama fire trampling and their own killing in sinhala border villages to raise genocide claims, SF is enough meat.
And they dont want much, just some sympathy in their way to punish SL and get some embargoes lifted or ignored.
Re: Govt's options
Best thing is to do teh honest most and if possible move to civil courts [maybe to a court martial to top up]. And do our best honesty and believe in the power of truth.
But it is always advantage SF.
Re: GE
There is impact of this arrest, yet won't be so critical
Re: Riots
Well, if handled rightly [not with thugs] it will fade. SL ppl are not fools to spend their time on streets like this everyday. A transparent hearing would leave many in double mind anyway. Yet few deaths are possible. Such deaths are lame wastes of human lives if it ever happens.
Re: War Crimes
A free SF can go and talk about "crimes" but how little can he say? How little can he say while saving his own arse? And how little credible they will be, as he has lost election and naturally like to defame its winner. Plus how foolish he is. Opens his mouth and he looses credibility.
But a prisoner SF, how many things can the others say? And use his imprisonment as evidence. Ppl outside of SL will believe them all, as there is a credible evidence for cover up by having him behind bars. Still can the govt stop him writing a book? [i.e. some Mongala goon ghost writing it]. Suddenly teh looser of PE has found a treasure of options open for him.
And like Thusitha said, imagine the risk of his death, even by natural cause.
Re: Iran/Burma type situ.
Riots are not in taht fashion or extent. Nothing to even compare. But govt created a chance for anyone to exploit. Now we have ppl rioting on roads. It is a basic req for teh Jackal [the next in line for Economic Hitman] to step in.
Moshe Dyan said...
thusitha,
1. "Learning Tamil by Sinhalese would teach every one mutual respect and that is a good thing to have."
of course. this is why we should not block anyone doing so voluntarily.
but there are MORE PRODUCTIVE ways to build mutual respect.
e.g. banning racism in politics.
e.g. if you are living in aus (i believe you are), how many national languages are there for 150 nationalities???
ONE. this ONE unifies them ALL.
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I am not sure about the comment that English unifies them all. People speaking English doesn't make every one unified in Australia. Rudd has a enormous respect among Chinese community because of his ability to speak Chinese. What every said and done, people would respect a person who has bothered to learn a minority language. It makes you (in most cases) one of your own.
Even in Australia, there are large number of people now learning Chinese. It definitely change the way how you look at foreigners. This is not something you can gain easily by just communicating in English and reading from books. That makes them interested in other countries and make them travel there are want to learn much more about those communities and how they think.
Learning Tamil is not the solution to the current problem we have. But we can make it part of the solution.
The LTTE supportive elements only brought out the war-crimes charges against Sri Lanka when the LTTE was pretty much totally destroyed. Because they know that there is nobody from the LTTE side that could be punished. They are of the erroneous view that only the GSL can be punished.
I think Sri Lanka should offer to help with the charges of the war crimes; but not just the final few days of the war (when the gvot. forces were winning), but the entire 30 year war.
That should help everyone to realize who the real war criminals are. Those who provided arms and training to the LTTE ect. ect. ect. and put everything in perspective.
As a democracy who fought unmitigated terrorism, and won, we can see when we derive comparative material from other wars to justify the war with the LTTE. Should be interesting.
[[Learning a language would not do any good if you just do it by studying it at home. But if you learn it by getting friendly with the people of that culture, which is bound to happen it would change the way people would think about each other.]]
I have no issues in either party learning other's language. But it cannot be achieved by purely forcing thru schools. Language and culture shud be shared and for that we need to mix ppl. Yes we go back to good old topic of recolonization.
Once everyone is mixed, nobody will be so specific about language issues. What need is to make hardcore mindsets loosen up.
[[I think Sri Lanka should offer to help with the charges of the war crimes; but not just the final few days of the war (when the gvot. forces were winning), but the entire 30 year war.]]
We can do this by having our own tribunals. But the war crime charges set in world bodies and other INGO bases are a set trap to cover pussycats and have our lads testified for SELECTED actions.
You are expecting justice from the likes of Philip [Fill Up] Arse-ton.
Swarnajith Udana said...
Today my boss reprimanded me. I made an appeal to the troops not to get provoked by this and maintain calmness.
Since the troops did not do a coup over the reprimand against me it proves that troops follow my order.
This is a trick I learn from SFist logic.
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I am not sure what exactly SF said. But this shows what SF is going to become. A smooth operator. Patriots, get use to the fact SF would become the opposition leader. What he lacked at the beginning of his campaign was some good political advice or some one purposely gave him bad advice. Now he is learning the rope and at a fast pace.
I have been saying this for a quite a some time now. Government should do it's best to get SF on to the opposition leadership position. There is nothing people can do to SF, whether you like it or not.
Then we can play to the fear of him becoming a military dictator. That way people would not vote for him.
Also this way government have to clean up their act, since there is proper competition. Also SF will realize his stupidity of going after the Tamil vote and would do what is best for the nation.
Thusitha;
Govt has a better horse in Ranil. Good thing is taht he also seem to enjoy it, unlike SF
Does anyone have link to BBC article in which SF was accused by Joseph Michael Perera for Lasantha's murder in parliament?
It can't be reached by Google search or BBC site search.
SK,
[We can do this by having our own tribunals. But the war crime charges set in world bodies and other INGO bases are a set trap to cover pussycats and have our lads testified for SELECTED actions.]
Yes, this we cannot/should not agree to. War is a war, there are no selected episodes in a war. What about the thousands of innocents that were killed due to public bombings by the LTTE. How can one quantify the deaths in Sri Lanka due to India's covert support initially to the LTTE?
Do you guys remember why we really didn't want a Fatpig aka Prabha in jail? Same applies for SF now, who's aparently reborn as his cousin.
I even fancied a fugitive Fatpig than Prisoner, in case we fail to do a May19th.
Hello Rover. Thot I saw you purely in DW, hence invited.
Rover;
Simply speaking no War Crime Tribunal is needed. We already punished some who did horrendous crimes like rape etc. But enough now.
Can SF realise it?
Worst thing is the sympathy Pussycats gain out of this.
"Simply speaking no War Crime Tribunal is needed. We already punished some who did horrendous crimes like rape etc. But enough now."
Yep agreed, we need to move on. Tribunals are a form of retribution, and Sri Lankans have paid enough already during the past 30 years. We need to move on.
However the issue is IC will keep on talking about war crimes committed by us. This needs to be countered and one way of doing this is to sure that the people who point the finger at us are also implicated in the process. They aided and abetted the crimes of the LTTE. Hence was my suggestion.
"Hello Rover. Thot I saw you purely in DW, hence invited."
Thanks SK, I discovered this forum about a week ago. Already commented.
Why are some of the folks not allowed here? Someone has complained on DW about this.
Divaina Cartoon reflects my thoughts. Many others shud be on that rope.
Actually it is good and easy for UPFA if Gonseka is out. Then RW, UNP, JVP all in bigger trouble in GE. However, obviously Gonseka staying out is extremely bad and dangerous for Sri Lanka. GR did whats best for the country, as usual.
/Why are some of the folks not allowed here?/
Just one. And his 35 other IDs.
thusitha,
in your comments, there's no negation of my arguments at all.
re: many australianas learning chinese (i heard the PM had spoken in mandarin somewhere. don't know if its true???)
that is for BUSINESS reasons (not for mutual respect and unity) which is MY POINT!!
the problem in SL has NOTHING to do with the language.
tamils are discriminated by TE tamils
tamil speaking muslims are discriminated and GENOCIDED by TE tamils
EPDP, TMVP tamils and TE tamils kill each other.
the problem is TE.
and mind you today HALF of TE tamils (1,300,000) speak in languages other than tamil!!! they are the diaspora but most of them VIOLENTLY support TE.
let me add another FCUKING CONVINCING PROOF.
at the PE, the tamil speaking candidate was SCREWED by tamils!!!!
lol!!
the candidate who REFUSED to speak tamil but agreed to TE, won HANDSOMELY.
the problem in SL has NOTHING to do with the language.
the problem is TE.
SK and thusitha,
nope.
the 2 are linked.
SL is NOT discredited internationally for SF's arrest. SL is discredited for SCUTTLING the seperatist plan ASSIGNED to SF that is SOOOO important to puppet masters.
this is the reason. do you see the nexus????
if SF was out, he would carry out their agenda which includes,
1. gathering info on "war crimes" stories.
2. inventing war crimes BS stories
3. selling these stories to the IC
4. creating a rift within the country using army deserters, foreign interferers, etc. so that society will one day "OK" the war crimes stories.
this happened in 2001. at the end of it ppl didn;t mind the surrender agreement and lifting the ban on the LTTE.
5. creating havoc so that NO FREE AND FAIR GE could be held.
6. if you think protests, etc. are MINUTE, think again.
govt had to use tear gas to disperse the crowd.
that means it is serious.
if this continues, the country would be bronght to a standstill.
in 2001 they did the same. then the army had to shoot dead 2 idiots who attached SLA. then the crowd got bigger.
don't underestimate the power of BS.
7. of course MOST ppl are not fooled by this BS croc tears.
but you need only 0.5%, i repeat 0.5% of voters to hold the BIGGEST crippling protest in the country. and if anyone dies for whatever reason, that tends to grow bigger and more bad publicity.
8. the puppet masters of gonz LOVE even this small protests. that is given BIG publicity.
9. this FUELS more anti SL work.
Rover said ...
[Why are some of the folks not allowed here? Someone has complained on DW about this.]
Rover, Welcome to the SLDF blog!
Only Rana and his multiple avatars are non-grata. He was disrupting the blog doing a Watusi dance here, and would not honor admin requests to cease and desist. Now, we just delete his posts .. they are so transparent.
simply GONZ's movement will be more effective if the bugger was out.
look at his SINGLE command - "stay clam" which means - GO RIOT.
due to gonz being locked, up he could only give this SINGLE command.
just imagine what not he would do if the bugger was out.
already the UNP and JVP are split bcos their UNIFYING FACTOR is not there to convince them to stay put.
now gonz's puppet masters are resorting to their PLAN B.
PLAN A (the REAL plan) failed with the arrest of gonz.
Thusitha said ...
[Also SF will realize his stupidity of going after the Tamil vote and would do what is best for the nation.]
Thusitha,
This is not a REALISTIC hope. SF cares about NO ONE EXCEPT HIMSELF. If he cared about the Nation, he would not have done most of the things he has.
That is not in his CHARACTER, and it is too late to change that in a man of mature years. He is a very emotional man driven by shallow motives .. we dare not entrust any political leadership in Sri Lanka to such a man.
He was given a wonderful opportunity to excel and gain the adulation of the nation; and he kicked it all because of those CHARACTER FLAWS.
Never AGAIN!
Many JVPers believe in Maxisasm and they think its about every one living under same economic condition. Since they are unable to find a way to improve their own financial condition they do it other way - destroying what others have. And as they don't have jobs they make those work to strike and then fired-jobless-same as them.
So its easy to make these JVPers to put into streets. One reason for UNP-JVP distance was this economic gap whereas SLFPers usually in middle. But now UNP and JVP are closest friends. Did UNPers have become poor or JVPers have become rich..? possibly from US money..?
Now Anoma supplies tears on daily basis.. 180 degrees change HIKz.. No kalawedda talks for GE.. Its going to depend solely on how well Anoma can cry.. If she cry better I will vote for her HIKz.. pawne..
SLDF forum is not pro-MR or anti-SF.
it is pro-SL.
unfortunately SF has alligned with anti-SL elements.
e.g. if you hug an iron post when its hit by lightning, you die too!! not that the lightning struck you, but bcos you alligned with the wrong thing.
e.g. you sleep with a HIV case and you may get it.
and someone who didn't would not get it.
it does not mean discrimination. it is association.
if it was MR who alligened with anti-SL elements, we would be screwing him INSTEAD.
if BOTH SF and MR remains pro-SL, we would be pitting one against the other and support the MOST pro-SL guy.
this is the same stupid argument brought by tamil elamists in foreign countries. they say no democracy in SL bcos they cannot support the LTTE there. they can support the LTTE in UK, US, canada, aus, etc.
how dumb??
they compare apples with pineapples.
try supporting al qaeda or jamah islamia or jihad in those countries and see what happens.
that is the comparable action.
OTOH support al qaeda, JI, hezbullah, jihad, etc. in SL and NOTHING will happen to you!!!!
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rana's comments are deleted bcos,
1. he uses multiple handles which is very confusing.
2. no coherent arguments, just bashing bloggers and ADMINS!!
trying repeated bashing of DW admins and see what happens (if it is moderated).
3. DW is not moderated any more. so anything goes here in DW.
but as you can see, no discussion CONTINUES here in DW. the all ABRUPTLY end due to totally irrelevant comments by some bloggers.
ninja,
sarath gonzeka - PAWN
anoma fonseka - PAWNE
(shorten form of "paw ane" sinhala. "paavam" tamil. "poor thing" english)
is PAWNE the feminin word of PAWN?????
gonzeka's bomb marks didn't attract any sympathy. lets see how american citizen anoma's tears attract sympathy.
MD
MR may lose many votes from families those who have some one in prison.
Anoma cries => Gonseka out
GSL have to release other criminals too when their wives cries.. HIKz
For TamizPeezaam too they have a new non-violent way.. HIKz
Bad thing is in SL those under 10 have no voting rights.. only >18 HIKz..
now gonz's puppet masters are resorting to their PLAN B.
Is that organising bogus riots and getting their media to work?
This is happening in SL I just don't know correct English word for this process.
1. Some thing happened (or didn't happen)
2. Some lairs (Gonseka, Mongal, RW) give a lie to int.media
3. LeN, LNW etc produce lie reports
4. World cops/rulers (US,EU,UN..) demand investigation from GSL
5. GSL now have to prove 'it didn't happen'
After some time back to step 1.
My Comment at The Economist
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thamilan,
Now, now my dear chap, you are becoming rather erratic .. aren't you? This disease which afflicted the Sun God, Velupillai Prabhakaran, is always fatal; I would strongly advise you to protect yourself from contracting it.
You said "This President is not going to give any solution like the others before him," but, my dear fellow, HE IS .. it is in the Mahinda Chintana Future Vision document that was his election platform in the recently concluded Presidential Election which he won by a LANDSLIDE! Um, I fondly repeat here: by a LANDSLIDE!
He has said that there will be no ethnic homelands in Sri Lanka, that ALL of Sri Lanka BELONGS to ALL OF ITS PEOPLE. Not PART BY PART, but AS A WHOLE. He has said that no region of Sri Lanka will be evolved power on any communal basis, like ethnicity, religion, language, and caste .. No-WHERE to No-ONE. He has said that EQUAL RIGHTS will be guaranteed to EVERY CITIZEN, including equal opportunity to enjoy ALL benefits of citizenship in Sri Lanka; THESE RIGHTS will be STRICTLY enforced, together with the EQUAL RESPONSIBILITY to LOVE, DEFEND and NUTURE the Nation. He has said that there are NO MINORITY and NO MAJORITY communities in Sri Lanka; only those who LOVE Sri Lanka and those WHO DO NOT.
He has said ALL areas of the country will be developed to the SAME level through investment in facilities and jobs. He has focused attention on the North and East which the 30-year captivity by the LTTE has left destitute DESPITE the many billions of dollars of ill-gotten gains in their treasury. To those ill-gotten gains we should add the many billions of dollars of funds expended by the Government of Sri Lanka over 30-years to feed and pay the enslaved people of the North and East .. no other nation in the world has done that for people in enemy occupied territory .. leading dear old Bill Clinton to quip that Sri Lankans have a strange way of fighting enemies! In his estimate, perhaps, carpet bombing with B-24's would have met the challenge.
That, my dear friend, is the SUM TOTAL OF THE "POLITICAL SOLUTION" for ALL Communities of Sri Lanka. Get used to living in Sri Lanka in the future as a mere equal to its other citizens, and not as a member of a superior highly intelligent species endowed with an inalienable right to greater rights!
Pol
Thanks for the comments on my blog.
I agree that west will never help us against the seperatists forces. After all they created and nourished it, nor can we educate them to change thier minds.
I think prof Nalin De Silva said it best.
හොරට නිදාගෙන ඉන්න මිනිහෙක් නැගිට්ටුවන්න බැහැ
Also agree the lack of understand of our public on the west's agenda, specially the English speaking.
What ever they west do against us they think its our fault not educating them.
They will never help us, not only that I think they will try to take revenge on MR, for not bending for them.
Here is an interesting link, looks like they are not only professionally hitched but also hitched personally.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/29/hillary-clinton-reunites_n_442183.html
Shameless
PS,
"now gonz's puppet masters are resorting to their PLAN B.
Is that organising bogus riots and getting their media to work?"
yes, and try to create the impression that SL suppresses the opposition.
this gonzeka bugger has to be done away with ASAP.
the more this is dragged on the worse it is for us.
but looks like GR has other ideas. on a lighter note he is like the kitten that caught a mouse and opts to play with it than kill it outright.
due to this BS and elections, the POLITICAL SOLUTION - RECOLONIZATION - takes a back seat.
why do all the motherfcukers in the whole world land in SL???
bcos there is this peice of land that is tamil majority where TE parties win. that can be turned to a seperate SATTELITE nation of somebody.
fcuk it up and no bastard will want to have it.
the only way to PEACEFULLY destroy this tamil nation BS is by RECOLONIZATION.
we did it in the east now we must do it to the north.
desha,
fantastic selection!!
as we say in SL, bugger is "a good BITE".
good idea. we should expand it to all anti-national HIGHFLYER POLITIKKAS of most districts.
we shouldn't forget that KARUWALA jayasuriya MF.
range bandara
pissa attanayaka
ona gona kerialla
desha,
that's good enough.
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
desha,
that's good enough.
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Let few other respond to this suggestion, then lets hatch a plan to distribute the work load
toiletnet,
Sri Lanka massacred up to 40,000 Tamil civilians – former UN official
can he tell us how many tamil tigers were massacred by SL????
this can end the confusion.
Short version in Economist:
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OaOAsithri wrote:
Feb 12th 2010 2:15 GMT
Cut to the chase and also summarized: Time to ask ourselves the question “why are so many avowed LTTE terrorist supporters thronging around Sarath Fonseka and against the govt. of Sri Lanka?” Mull on this thought and then one might see the rationale for everything that has followed suit over the past few days.
http://www.economist.com/node/15491369/comments?sort=desc#sort-comments
OaO Asithri
Long version in Economist:
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OaOAsithri wrote:
Let me cut to the chase by stating this observation I had during the thick of the last war between the Sri Lanka Govt. armed forces and the LTTE terrorists (reasonable to use that term as they are branded as such by over 32 countries):
During the thick of the war, it was quite common to see LTTE protest rallies in the west having posters of "Genocide in SL" and "War Crimes in SL" and what was noteworthy about these posters was that they had 3 individuals' pictures right below such slogans.
Yes, for sure one was of President Mahinda Rajapakse, the other was of Gotabaya Rajapakse (Defense Secretary SL) and the third was of the then Army Commander Sarath Fonseka.
Wow! Today all those rallies have all but disappeared not to mention such posters are not even seen in jungle paths! Not only that, judging by the rabidly pro-Sarath Fonseka comments of the pro-LTTE and hard-core LTTE agents herein, it is mindboggling to see that the same LTTE that had Sarath Fonseka in those posters are now batting for him herein and elsewhere, against the Govt. of Sri Lanka!
Yeah, time we cut to the chase...and time we ask ourselves the question many Sri Lankans are asking today..."why are these LTTE supporters thronging around Sarath Fonseka like he is their prophetic hero?"
LTTE supporters [not only the ones overseas, but Tamil National Alliance (pro-LTTE party) and Mano Ganeshan (an avowed LTTEr)in Sri Lanka] thronging around Sarath Fonseka tells a bad tale.
It tells us that Sarath Fonseka was out to no good and that all the accusations from the Mahinda R Govt of SL about Sarath planning a coup, planning to assassinate key govt officials including President Mahinda R etc. are entirely believable!
So, to us who can add two and two together and produce 4 (or the words "LTTE TERRORISM"), the bottom line is Sarath Fonseka became a pro-LTTE stooge via the LTTE sympathetic UNP under Ranil Wickremasinghe, which in turn is string-jerked puppet under the care of the West (that has large pro-LTTE Tamil diasporas and hence it needs to have a different agenda to that of SL's national security interests).
Yes, time to cut to the chase and not be confused about why a fake "Lion's Roar" can energize a "True Tiger's" cunning.
So, I heard the Maharagama LTTE revival protest hardly got off the ground and the only "gain" was the size of the bruises some pro LTTE/SF whoredogs got from being batton charged by the Polce.
wow! Very nice!
Another "Iran Post-election" in the making I see, but I am truly heartened to see in this instance, "Maharagama" has seen a better duty-minded response from the national Police than their counterparts at "Hulftsdorp" yesterday.
Re. "Hulftsdorp" there is no excuse in my view to have pro-LTTE/SF protesters throw stones in public after our brave brothers had sacrificed over 27,000 of their lives to asssur that LTTE will never ever be tolerated in Sri Lanka by word or deed.
What were the Police doing in that case at Hulftsdorp? In my view, a mass baton charge, rubber bullets, followed up with live bullets if violence still continued, should have commenced as soon as it was evident that the pro-LTTE/SF supporters were hell bent on violence!
Glad to see SL police learned a lesson and calibrated itself!
OaO Asithri
Rover
[Timing of arrest of SF is bad for the govt.]
Really?
How so?
A pro-LTTE arsehole, who campaigned and LOST even more than Ranil ponna-bitch would have lost at the last PE, and now the GOSL arresting him is "bad for the govt" ???
Come again!
Why, is the belief that he, after the humiliating loss by over 1.8 Million votes but that he was the still "champion" of the opposition and as such it was "bad for govt" to arrest him???
I am truly amused you you appear to think so.
Even the real opposition here (if one can call it, that is), the RW-UNP, has now decided that it will NOT use the Swan symbol of that the traitorous whoredog campaigned under, but will revert to the Elephant symbol in the forthcoming GE !!!
So, I am truly at a loss at the illogicality of your statement.
OaO Asithri
Rajapaksa told the Singapore daily that Fonseka, who was arrested Monday on charges of conspiring against the government, got the backing of Western countries during the January presidential campaign.
'We are 100 percent convinced that Western countries with vested interests were backing him. Even the US, and countries like Norway, spent lots of money on his campaign,' he said.
'They (Norway) have vested interests and used to support the Tamil Tigers in various ways. They also supported Fonseka to try oust the government.'
wow!
Spoken truly like a true Sinhaya from my proud Ruhuna!
This is the forceful but righteous language that these hypocritical western gook understand (not the wimpish, servile, docile, "yes-sir no sir three bags full" language of Ranil da ponna huttha).
OaO Asithri
GR's hardhitting statements had a HUGE effect.
but it is not likely norway and US would stop messing with SL affairs.
they don't do it for fun.
they have requirements.
Rana moda girawo ,
Thoge mole amaruwata beheth gaththada gon patiyo?
With love
Anushka Gonawala.
Rana's second daughter.
Rana said : Over 70% of men that I know are running on Booze.
Rana you are running on jangi ganja.
"Dr.P.A.Samaraweera - Australia
Karu Jayasuriya, an opposition spokesman has said that, "... the opposition will be speaking to all religious leaders and will have a series of religious events to seek the release of Sarath Fonseka from custody and ensure more democratic freedom..."
It is alleged that Fonseka had colluded with the opposition politicians last year while still heading the army. Thus he had been politicising the army.
With regard to the accusation against Sri Lanka for war crimes, Fonseka on 8th Monday had said, "...I am going to reveal what I know, what I was told and what I heard. Anyone, who has committed war crimes should be definitely brought into courts..." And he had added that he is prepared to give evidence in an International Court. Ironically, this obviously means evidence against Sri Lanka especially against the army in which he was the commander.
Revealing military secrets and conspiring against the govt are treason. But for the opposition this is democratic freedom. So the bankrupt political parties are to muster support of religious leaders to defend him.
In contrast, for Fonseka's alleged crimes he should also be made ineligible for 'gifts' made by the govt., especially the grant of 25 perches of prime land close to the city worth Rs. 900 million, given to him after the war. Because, there are more deserving handicapped and incapacitated soldiers without proper housing in the rural areas of Sri Lanka who need such handouts. They are the real patriots and not cosmetic patriots who turned out to be traitors."
http://www.asiantribune.com/news/2010/02/12/govt-grant-25-perches-prime-land-fonseka#comment-49769
- Asian Tribune -
I remember how this top scum wanted 25 perches to make him feel "above" the other two commanders who given 10 perches. Gonseka then said "it was nothing because the Airforce and Navy commanders were given land too".
He wanted to be "special".
What an egoistical ungrateful scum.
GR really made a mistake with this piece of shit.
Knowing GR/MR they probably appointed him out of a sense of comrade ship when GR and Gonseka served together. Gonseka was about to retire and CBK treated him like trash, when GR Became defence sectary he must have begged GR and invoked memories of the past to propel himself into greater power and fulfil his dirty ego which GR/MR nursed to the maximum to only have him try and seize control of the nation and sell us out to its enemies.
My Comment at The Economist
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Sinna Sithar,
Thank you for asking me to "Carry on praising Mahinda"...so I will. Here is my rapturous applause for this man who eradicated terrorism from our land, reunified it, and during 4-years while waging war of survival pursued a program of infrastructure development the like of which we have not seen since the days of Parakramabahu the Great (1153-1186 AD). The best days yet of Sri Lanka will come in the next decade starting on April 8, 2010. So, here it is again, in verse:
To the ALWAYS FAITHFUL Patriots,
A Heartfelt Tribute in Gratitude!
Semper Fidelis, Patriots of Lanka
By Ananda-USA
January 26, 2010.
Our Motherland, resplendent Sri Lanka,
Hallowed be thy name!
Thy children flock today to vote,
To preserve thy immortal flame!
The Lion Flag flutters proudly aloft,
To remind us this freedom's day!
Our duty to keep thee, safe and strong,
As our forefathers did yesterday!
A Mahinda Rajapaksa by deed and word,
Strode forth boldly to eternal fame!
To lead his people to a safer world,
When all others retreated in shame!
"දේශපාලුවා said...
Blogger Moshe Dyan said...
desha,
that's good enough.
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Despha, Moshe,
We need to access this information (e.g. corrupt deeds of Ravi K), the documentation which always makes any accusation look more solid.
Then we need to distribute it and it must go to the SL masses.
Internet alone is not enough since roughly only 10% of the population has access to the internet.
It should be the job of our shit media to be doing “investigative journalism” to reveal these kinds of things, instead of sitting around waiting till some NGO or the Government says so then reporting it.
How do i search the forum for an earlier post of mine? Or do i need to find it manually searching page after page?
Someone asked for this article from the BBC, here it is:
"Page last updated at 20:17 GMT, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 21:17 UK
S Lankan general 'behind attacks'
Sri Lanka's main opposition party has accused the country's most senior army officer of being behind violent attacks on reporters.
Opposition MP Joseph Michael Perera told parliament that the attacks were carried out by a "special team" controlled by Lt Gen Sarath Fonseka.
Mr Perera said the government should arrest the offenders and "immediately bring them to justice".
The army has denied that it is any way involved in attacks on journalists.
'Dangerous'
"We are told by those in the army itself that journalists are abducted and subjected to grievous injury by none other than a special unit under the army commander," Mr Perera, a former parliamentary speaker, said.
The World Association of Newspapers recently ranked Sri Lanka as the third most dangerous country in the world for media workers in 2007.
The state is involved in a series of intimidations, abductions and killings of media persons
Joseph Michael Perera
Sri Lanka's journalists under fire
But army spokesman Brig Udaya Nanayakkara said that the MP had nothing to substantiate his allegations.
"We have nothing to do with the attacks against journalists," he said. "If the MP has evidence, he must present it to the police."
The BBC's Roland Buerk says that there have been a series of abductions and assaults against journalists in Sri Lanka.
Our correspondent says that no-one has been brought to court for the attacks and there are accusations the government has been turning a blind eye, if not encouraging them.
Twelve journalists have been killed in Sri Lanka since August 2005, 11 of them in government-controlled areas.
In one of the most controversial incidents, a journalist and a senior official of the British High Commission were assaulted last week just days after the government set up a cabinet-level panel to prevent attacks on media personnel.
Lt Gen Fonseka hit the headlines in June when he said that the Tamil Tiger rebels had been defeated as a conventional force.
He said troops were advancing steadily into the rebel-held north and within a year the Tigers would lose large areas and their control over the population.
But he admitted a low-level insurgency could last indefinitely.
The general himself narrowly escaped death when a woman suicide bomber targeted him in April 2006 inside the high security army headquarters complex."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7496367.stm
Made screen caps just in case BBC decide to remove it. They have a history of "changing articles" as and when it suits them and of course to "deny" their flawed reporting.
Rover;
Usually in banquet times we tie Cacofonix the bard, whom, if allowed, sings absolutely horrendous tunes of complete cacophony.
Cacophony of logics, horrendously filthy and personal attack.
It is the same reason of those little Gaulish villagers that we are cmpelled to do it - distraction.
My Comment at The Economist
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My dear fellow, Sinna Siththar,
By intoning "have you ever heard of Buddha, who preached the "Middle Path" to us, you are preaching to the proverbial choir.
What is more, it seems that your pseudo-Buddhist sermons are emanating from an individual who has supported the shootings, the suicide bombings, the midnight slicing and dicing of hundreds by entire villages, the ethnic cleansing of all Sinhala and Muslims in the North and East, the kidnapping and brainwashing of underage children into cannon fodder, the torturing of thousands of innocents in barb-wired torture chambers of the Wanni Gulag, of smuggling fully one third of Sri Lankan Tamil people abroad as captive fake refugees, blackmailing and exploiting the legal and welfare systems of gullible western host countries, to be milked by the LTTE-mafia to support a vicious murderous killing machine in Sri Lanka.
Ah! yes, these are the double-faced con-artistes of the LTTE Tamil Diaspora who present one face to the West as permanent innocent victims, while they cultivated a monstrous persona to intimidate and terrorize the hapless people of Sri Lanka, and killed people of ALL communities, with gay abandon.
Now, you preach to us that since the majority community are Sinhalese Buddhists treading the Middle Path, they have no right to defend themselves, and all other communities of Sri Lanka, against unmitigated evil.
Religion presents to humans an unattainable ideal that we strive for, and guides us, but one we must temporarily abandon to assure the survival of our peoples. Other religions are no different; they espouse universal love and compassion, but in a practical world that is not always possible. When Christian Western Europe was confronted by the unmitigated evil of Hitler and the Nazi war machine, they did not say "we are Christians taught to love-thy-neighbor by Christ, and to always turn the other cheek" and, therefore, that they should not resist! No, they fought back with all of their might to overcome evil and survive the onslaught. Today, the United States is waging war in Afghanistan for similar reasons.
Even Mahatma Gandhi's program of non-violence in his struggle for independence of India would have failed had the colonial power been the Nazis, and not the British, weakened as they were by WWII. Gandhi's true greatness lies in that he properly gauged the situation, understanding the innate decency of the British people, their war weariness, and their reduced attachment to far-flung empires. Had he tried non-violence against the Nazis, he and millions of Indians would have perished in concentration camps.
We Buddhists, joined by all peoples of Sri Lanka, are no different from people all over the world who have set aside the impractical ideal of religion temporarily to face the exigencies of the moment! We have an inherent inalienable claim on the right to fight to survive, guided by the good sense that is our birthright, just as we will always strive under normal conditions to achieve the Buddhist ideal.
Let there be no doubt, that NO ONE preaching Buddhism to Sri Lankan Patriots can convince us not to defend ourselves against evil aggression. It will FAIL, as it ALREADY HAS, and it ALWAYS WILL.
It will fail, just as your previous attempt at this Blog-thread to exacerbate non-existent caste divisions among the Sinhala people FAILED. In attempting these tactics, you demonstrate that you have not really understood the lessons of the struggle that Sri Lankans have waged over three millenia to secure their place in the sun, expelling ALL INVADERS, and defeating ALL INTERNAL ENEMIES.
Disce' Aut Discede', my friend!
138 (61%) seats agrees with my prediction of 135-146(60-65%) seats for the UPFA
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Parliamentary polls 2010
Best projected results for
UPFA –12 members short of a two-thirds majority
By Shamindra Ferdinando
Island.lk
February 12, 2010
The ruling SLFP-led coalition is confident that it could muster 138 seats at the forthcoming parliamentary polls-12 members short of a two-thirds majority it needed to implement far reaching constitutional reforms envisaged in the 14-point Mahinda Chintanaya II programme.
Among the proposed changes were electoral reforms, including changing the existing PR system as well as revamping Provincial Council and Local Government systems. The President also promised to ensure minority representation in Parliament by electing members on the basis of district cum national percentages.
Mass Media Minister Lakshman Yapa Abeywardhana on Wednesday (February 11) said that following a thorough analysis of the recently concluded presidential polls, the UPFA was confident that it could comfortably obtain a better percentage at the parliamentary polls.
President Mahinda Rajapaksa polled 6,015.934 (57.88 %) against 4,173,185 (40.15%) obtained by the Opposition presidential candidate.
"If we obtained a similar percentage of the vote, we can win 131 seats. But due to perceived drop in the percentage the Opposition votes, the UPFA is in a position to win seven additional seats," he said.
Responding to The Island queries at the weekly media briefing at the Information Department, Minister Abeywardhana said that a two-third majority was needed to ensure political stability. The non-Cabinet ranker asserted that the number of ministers could not be reduced at the expense of political stability.
He said that about 10 per cent of those who had exercised their franchise in support of Opposition presidential candidate Sarath Fonseka would not skip the parliamentary polls. A further 10 per cent would vote for UPFA candidates, he said. The Opposition was in disarray and could not pose a threat to the government.
Referring to the criticism of the arrest of the former Army Commander on conspiracy charges, Miniser Abeywardhana said that the situation would have been totally different had President Rajapaksa lost the polls. The Opposition had threatened to detain politicians, officials and top military personnel, including Defence Secretary Gotabhaya Rajapaksa. Secretary to the President Lalith Weeratunga was among 27 Secretaries, who had received letters from the Opposition, warning of dire consequences, the Minister said. A smiling Abeywardhana said that some officials threw their weight behind not because of their love for the President but they really feared for their lives.
Asked whether he was addressing the media as the former Mass Media Minister, Abeywardhana said that Ministers and non-Cabinet Ministers could continue in their offices, though the President had dissolved Parliament at midnight Tuesday. He acknowledged that over 100 members could enjoy ministerial perks and privileges regardless of the dissolution.
"The non-Cabinet ranker asserted that the number of ministers could not be reduced at the expense of political stability.
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What does this mean? That the jumbo cabinet is going to stay?
UNP leader Ranil Wickremasinghe today met with President Mahinda Rajapaksa at Temple Trees to seek the release of Rtd. General Sarath Fonseka, the opposition leader’s office said in a statement. Mr Wickremasinghe shouted Mahinda poda Mahinda poda, the statement said.
http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=7185
Another rabid white dog has started barking once again.
‘40,000 Tamil civilians Killed during the final battle’-Gordon Weiss
Gordon Weiss, the Resident United Nations representative in Colombo who was summoned by the Government of Sri Lanka and later made to leave the country last year for commenting about a civilian “bloodbath” has given several interviews to Australian media recently. Gordon Weiss is now free to reveal all the happenings in Sri Lanka, as he is now resigned from the United Nations Organization after 14 years of service.
In an exclusive interview aired on Feb 9th with Eric Campbell of Australia’s ABC News in its program “Foreign Correspondent”, Gordon Weiss says between 10,000 and 40,000 civilians died during the 2009 final battles in Sri Lanka North-East.
Gordon Weiss says that after the war ended, a senior civil servant openly admitted that the authorities had deliberately underestimated the number of trapped civilians “as a ploy to allow the government to get on with its business.”………………….. http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/02/post_490.html
Arrest Most Foul
The Rajapakse brothers are turning Sri Lankan politics into a blood sport. The arrest of Sarath Fonseka is an abuse of state power for the purpose of personal vengeance. The decision to subject him to Court Martial is to try him behind closed doors and find him guilty as charged. The charges are fabricated and the judgment may already have been written. Whether Sarath Fonseka deserves this is not the question.
The immediate release of Sarath Fonseka and all political prisoners including journalists should be the first goal the protesting people. If there are charges against the detainees, let them be investigated independently by the Attorney General and the Police and let the law take its course. The culture of independent investigation has become quite alien to Sri Lanka, but it is time that it was restored within the state to countervail the state monopoly over violence………… http://transcurrents.com/tc/2010/02/arrest_most_foul.html
http://www.divaina.com/2010/02/12/feature02.html
Please read this. This might give an idea why USA wanted LTTE to win the war.
The article above can explain also why SF could have strongly motivated by the USA>
Wimal appeared on ITN Thulawa last night, once again proving that the government has none better than him to give sensible and effective reasoning whether the reasons are true or not.
My guess is that he spoke the truth regarding Fonseka arrest. He says that they know the arrest is not favorable for the govt's image yet they had to do it.
Listen from Part 4 onwards. 1, 2, 3 not very relevant.
Part 1
Part 2
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Ananda-USA said...
Thusitha said ...
[Also SF will realize his stupidity of going after the Tamil vote and would do what is best for the nation.]
Thusitha,
This is not a REALISTIC hope. SF cares about NO ONE EXCEPT HIMSELF. If he cared about the Nation, he would not have done most of the things he has.
That is not in his CHARACTER, and it is too late to change that in a man of mature years. He is a very emotional man driven by shallow motives .. we dare not entrust any political leadership in Sri Lanka to such a man.
He was given a wonderful opportunity to excel and gain the adulation of the nation; and he kicked it all because of those CHARACTER FLAWS.
Never AGAIN!
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I Understand you sentiments. That is a hope, but it is not really important. What I really want to is to get out from the current mess MR has created for himself.
As far as I can see MR well and truly cornered himself. Remember what happened to Musharaf. I don't want the same thing happening to MR. It is irrelevant whether MR does something bad or not to SF. Every thing is driven by sentiments and not logic or reasoning. There are plenty of Idiots in SL.
Only thing that will happen with time is more and more riots will continue until someone dies. Then people will start wondering what the fuck happened. Right or wrong does not come to this equation.
As soon as I saw the arrest of SF arrest I started commenting on this. I still believe riots will continue.
This is a political game and therefore it should be played in such a way. This should not be played according to the law.
The best and the only way to destroy SF is to let him level war crimes charges against GR. Once this happens we just need to create rumours all our military commanders would be dragged in to Hague.
No one, including U.S. / Europe would ever consider charging SL. That means 70% of the people would be going directly against them.
Also You saw what happened when he tried to do that last time. As I said many times, if that happened the support of SF would drop from 40% to 20%. Support for U.S. and the west would go down greatly.
This is the card we should be playing now. Tigers are gone. Every one knows that the west needs Sinhalese on their side. Therefore there would be lot of BS talk, but no action on there part.
Also, if for some reason SF decided to pull this shit, every SL would understand he must go. So, what ever happen to him become irrelevant.
Therefore
Thusitha,
Regarding SF, it is the SF-JVP nexus that is at play here. It is the JVP that supports and manages these violent demonstrations and riots, just as they hoodwinked all prior to the PE by staging mass meetings, busing the same crew from meeting to meeting.
Ultimately, the GOSL will have to move against the JVP and hold it accountable for their disruptive activities in society. That is best done after the GE when they have failed to win public support and are reduced to an insignificant political force in Sri Lanka.
I do not subscribe to the approach of ignoring problems in the hope they will just go away.
That is what successive Govts did with the LTTE problem; it failed badly by allowing it to grow. Most insurgencies are launched by a few idealogues ignored by governments.
No, these problems must be explained to the people by persuasive speakers, and confronted head on before they spin out of control.
It must be attended to before they compromise what all of us are praying for: the ECONOMIC EMERGENCE of Sri Lanka as the "New Wonder of Asia."
These protests by the JVP and the statements that the JVP leadership will be arrested by the government reminds me of 1987 when the JVP used anti-IPKF sentiment to launch an armed insurgency against the goverment and we all know how that ended.
BreatheSL,
Brother, you have earned my deep gratitude again by posting the links to Wimal Weerawansa's latest Thulawa Interview Videos in full at this blog.
I will post these videos at the blog, shortly.
I URGE all Patriots to watch these videos in full. I completely agree with Wimal Weerawana, and the significance of this moment in time for Sri Lanka's future progress.
In my posts everywhere on the internet, I have been arguing Sri Lanka's case pretty much the same way .. but not as effectively as this very gifted man does.
Patriots,
This is my first comment on SLDF (even though I have actively commented in DW during the war). However, I was a regular visitor of this site and I have gone through all most all of your comments.
I am a strong supporter of MR. (I could convince my brother, who is a fan of SF, to vote for MR)
However, after the arrest of SF, I firmly believe now MR and the gov is going on the wrong track.
Before the arrest, it was clear that UNP and JVP was preparing to contest separately and SF was preparing to contest for Galle district with JVP. This could reduce the no of seats for UNP and JVP. It was clear that JVP cannot win more than 2-3 seats. Since only SLFP and UNP, (not JVP) are strong in Galle, SF did not had a chance to goto the parliament.
But now, situation is changed. In this situation, both UNP and JVP are forced to contest as a single party, which will increase there no. of seats. Also, they will get more votes than the presidential election (or at lease they will retain their 40 lacks) due to sympathetic voters. Earlier, most of the people who voted for SF were decided to not to vote or vote for MR in the upcoming election. Also this will reduce the enthusiasm of MR voters.
If gov really wanted to arrest him, gov could do it after the election. In this situation, I'm sure (though SLFP can easily win) SLFP cannot get the 2/3 majority.
SK,
"Usually in banquet times we tie Cacofonix the bard, whom, if allowed, sings absolutely horrendous tunes of complete cacophony."
:)
Sometimes Cocofonix can be used as a weapon, like when women were sent to attack the little village by the sea (the proud Gauls don't beat up women, even Romans, so they asked Cacophonix to sing!).
Thusita
No one, including U.S. / Europe would ever consider charging SL. That means 70% of the people would be going directly against them
Thusita mate, you obviously do not understand how the West works or thinks. Even if MR has 100% victory & support they would not care. They will do their best to secure and fulfil what is in their interests and that is installing in power some loyal lackey. They would have no problem over-throwing MR (or any Government for that matter if they can) no matter how popular either through coups, assassinations, bribery, Ranilams, Gonsekas the works and will do whatever it takes, including bogus riots, and defamation and spreading of propaganda to make popular leaders unpopular. They have no problem slapping sanctions on SL to make the people "change their minds". In fact Western countries want to punish Sinhala people in particular for defying them and keeping MR around. Why else did they covertly back the LTTE then when push came to shove started doing it overtly.
Why do you think they a perusing bogus "war crimes"? Even when Gonseka denied what that bs he told SundayLeader the West still went ahead with it. They want to get rid of MR one way or another and will do whatever it takes to have some puppet in leader, whether 70% or 100% back MR/nationalistic leader they would not give a damn and have no problem punishing whole populations to do so (see Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam). In SLs case Gonseka provides that simply because "he was Army Commander". No matter how discredited he is he us the "source". Not to mention his coup attempt. Had he done it, and given us a Military dictatorship they would have back it so long as it served their purposes (see Iraq/Iran).
Nisal,
I believe that some of us share thoughts similar to you. GE is in any case based on local politicians than MR. A 2/3rd majority is going to be impossible in any case. As far as your other concerns, we may see it taking the real shape after seeing the evidence government is going to present to the courts. Irrespective of political outcome, I strongly believe that all the traitors should be punished. That includes Mangala Samaraweera and Ranil Wickramasinghe who started the whole procedure.
British justice
Eight suspects held over deaths of six British military police in Iraq
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250614/Eight-suspects-held-deaths-British-military-police.html
Comical.
Major General Parakarama Pannipitiya's wife respond to Anoma Fonseka's screen act (check 4:00).
Rover;
[[Sometimes Cocofonix can be used as a weapon, like when women were sent to attack the little village by the sea (the proud Gauls don't beat up women, even Romans, so they asked Cacophonix to sing!)]]
Asterix - The Mansions of God ...to be exact. Read last week, so it was just in the memory cache.
Yeah, this Cacofonix is best teasing and shooing ladies, sadism barred, I shud say.
Right now this place is calm. We as a group represent different opinions. even the publishers of this blog do not share same opinion, if you follow our ideas on SF arrest. It needs not to be so.
But for heaven's sake we gotta discuss matters seriously, and be honest with our idea. It shud not divert in the middle to throw a bit of filth at another blogger whom disagreed with you for something about an year ago.
And it SHUD NOT read "I hate SL, I hate SL" between every two lines. Well, it can, but we won't just wait at that.
So we unanimously tied the incest bard. That suggestion came first from some non-author brothers. Before that you and me would not be making this discussion as inbetween there will be 100 hate comments targetting various things starting from bloggers, SL, govt, culture, Dhamma, traditions etc etc.
If you wanna see his annoyance see what he's doing at DW, and how little relevant his comments are to subject.
I read his mind and I know which clan he belongs to. We have ppl who make films [which get banned] on mother having sex with son in SL. Same group cries for tamil wounds and Sinhala guns. Or liberation and revolution. I even wrote an article on the same. I'm sure he sits well with the clan.
For some strange reason their first god, Leon Trotsky had his forhead axed... And I wouldn't talk about teh second God...
Sam/Nisal;
[[Irrespective of political outcome, I strongly believe that all the traitors should be punished. That includes Mangala Samaraweera and Ranil Wickramasinghe who started the whole procedure.]]
I fully agree for the need, but the number of such ppl is not small.
And honestly it is one reason why SL is infested with the negative aspects like thuggary, corruption, misconduct, favorism etc.
To fix these, a quick solution is what happened in Singapore and Malaysia. A firm and ruthless rule. But teh fear is whether it will turn into a Zimbabwe or Iraq, or even North Korea.
OK, I leave the matter of complaining. Let's see the best out of it. Let's see how firmly we can punish one man who messed with our nation. For the sake of records, and for a good start.
Thusita
No one, including U.S. / Europe would ever consider charging SL. That means 70% of the people would be going directly against them
Thusita mate, you obviously do not understand how the West works or thinks. Even if MR has 100% victory & support they would not care. They will do their best to secure and fulfil what is in their interests and that is installing in power some loyal lackey. They would have no problem over-throwing MR (or any Government for that matter if they can) no matter how popular either through coups, assassinations, bribery, Ranilams, Gonsekas the works and will do whatever it takes, including bogus riots, and defamation and spreading of propaganda to make popular leaders unpopular.
No mate, you haven’t clearly understood what I am saying. Living In Australia, I clearly understand how the west are destablizing our nations and the narrow minded thinking that goes in to those decisions.
We have two major problems in our hands right now. One is SF and the other, war crime charges. It is best to tackle one problem at a time. In the absence of the SF factor, we should have put our best to get away from the war crimes charges. But with current developments, and an A**hole who think that SL belongs to him, what we should try to do is to eliminate SF factor.
As far as I can see, the one an only way to eliminate SF is to let him charge GR with war crimes (and by association the rest of our field commanders). You will see the masses turning against SF and UNP straight away as soon as people start realizing our war heroes are going to be charged.
Secondly, we have great lawyers in SL, plus there would be large number of international communities who are behind us. This BS war crime charges would not work. If it is, we should be counter suing and creating war crime charges against U.K., U.S. and Canada etc. It would be a dangerous precedence to set by charging an army who fight Terrorist. We can drag all the U.S. military personal in to war crimes Tribunals, specially the Iraqis and Afghanistan’s.
Ananda-USA said...
Thusitha,
Ultimately, the GOSL will have to move against the JVP and hold it accountable for their disruptive activities in society. That is best done after the GE when they have failed to win public support and are reduced to an insignificant political force in Sri Lanka.
I do not subscribe to the approach of ignoring problems in the hope they will just go away.
That is what successive Govts did with the LTTE problem; it failed badly by allowing it to grow. Most insurgencies are launched by a few idealogues ignored by governments.
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Ananda,
No where I suggested to ignore the problem. My only concern is that this would lead to mass protests and riots. Sometimes legal means are not the best solutions. It is the best solutions when the country is more stabilize.
As I said earlier, since I am not in SL, I cannot predict the reaction of the people to SFs arrests. If there is no riots, no deaths, that would be o.k. But if there are, we would be in big trouble.
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No, these problems must be explained to the people by persuasive speakers, and confronted head on before they spin out of control.
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I wish SL people are that smart. Remember 40% of the people voted for SF. And 2-3% must be hard core supporters of him. We need only we idiots like these to create havoc in SL. Once it starts, it is difficult to stop. That is my biggest worry.
in 2007 gonzeka out of JEALOUSY imprisoned general parakrama pannipitiya for no reason.
and deprived his family what was due to them.
ckeck at 4:00. wht anoma crying now??? she could have cried on the xmas day of 1975 if she wanted to cry. bloody pretenders.
that's not all.
about a year ago (february 2009) gonzeka teamed up with JVP and UNP cheap media outlets to discredit parakrama pannipitiya blaming him for TREASURE HUNTING!!!!
he was actually arrested on BOGUS allegations by SF's underworld gang of army deserters this time through the co-ordination of gonzeka.
this is how gonzeka got the JVP lankatruth website to report it in feb 2009.
this is how gonzeka got the UNP LEN report it in feb 2009.
at least from feb 2009 these cheap media outlets and their JVP/UNP owners were colloaborating with gonzeka to DISCREDIT the army and its officers.
Re: Western Impression on SL
The western impression is not something like virginity. I mean, a one off event, where once it is broken, there is no remedy and no point trying, and you're free to do anything after that.
Nop. It is not a 1/0 matter like that. It is multi leveled and can impact further and further. It is never lost or gained fully.
West will never mean so much great heart for us. Nobody does. It is their strategy always. A Sanction or a concession both are parts of strategy. We need to make max out of it.
Although they pushed us so much to the wall to stop war and let go pussycats, they simultaneously blocked some portion of funding, punished collectors, provided some [minute] material support and training and were holding bans on pussycats and publicly opposing eelam [although they may have other ideas behind teh doors]
None of these were given away for their good hearts. They all have underlying reasons to happen. And impression is a big one. The feeling that we are not THEIR enemy.
Put a nation like Iran, North Korea or Cuba in our position. Do you think they'd do the same? I think they'd support pussycats openly with money and weapons, like in Nicaragua two decades ago.
We do not want similar situ. And we do not want to attack west needlessly.
We can let them feel teh sovereignty of ours like MR managed in his Ambilipiti-vaadaya with dumb and dumber. Or like how Russion FM did with one of the same. But needlessly making them agitate at us, and further support teh enemies of our nation leaves room for few unwanted problems.
- Release of pussycat regulations
- Govt sympathy on them, public sympathy too.
- Public support on movements like "do not buy SL products"
- Lesser respect for SL, including its glorious DF.
- Sanctions, dropping of favors.
- For Jackal to step in [ref: Hitman book]
I'd give it all for the war matters. Fine. But now, why do we still batter these lines?
We need to avert these. We do not want a Hugo Chaves here. We want a Lula De Silva or Vladimir Putin.
And it is a disgrace to the President who could visit ailing Fidel Castro on his way to a Washington Summit or Visit Tel Aviv to close a weapons deal in secrecy, while he's on his way to open the street in Palasthene named after him.
Diplomacy, I am craving for.
MR should abandon the notion that people voted for him to show their gratitude. Vote is more valuable than gratitude.
If one wants to show gratitude then she/he would send flowers, invite for a lunch or will hang MR' picture in their living room.
People vote for MR because they trusted for him to be the best bet for the future, which I agree.
It is hightime that this gratitude notion is abandoned.
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