Monday, May 17, 2010

May 18 - The Day the Civilised Vanquished the Uncivilised

V DAY MINUS 10 YEARS

It was Friday 17th September 1999. Laughter of villagers faded into the tranquillity of the night in remote Gongala village in Ampara District in Eastern Sri Lanka. HM Premasiri (29) went to bed late that night after a long pleasurable conversation with a large number of relatives and friends who had come to his place for a religious ceremony. Around two hours after midnight the serenity of the night was shattered by screams of men, women and children. About 75 Tamil Tigers and their accomplices, mostly women, brutally massacred 27 men, 17 women and 10 children to death. Tamil Tigers had plenty of guns but opted to make it as cannibalistic as they possibly could. Just one victim was shot with a revolver while the rest were killed with knives, axes and machetes. Most victims were hacked to death. Premasiri survived hiding under his bed. He could hear the hysteric laughter of Tamil Tiger female murderers and their civilian accomplices resembling what might be Satan’s laughter. For a moment he thought devils from hell have invaded the earth. When the morning came, the true horror of the attack became obvious. People found it difficult to attribute to humans. If anything came close, that was the horror female SS helpers including Irma Grese - known as the ‘Angel of Death’ - at Belsen and Auschwitz unleashed on unarmed civilians during WW2.

Despicable Tamil Elamists didn’t stop there. The political mouthpiece of the LTTE which is both the father and son of the LTTE, grabbed the opportunity to advance its ethnic-cleansing-for-Tamil-homeland agenda. Joseph Pararajasingham, an MP of the communalist TAMIL United Liberation Front (TULF), later the MP of communalist TAMIL National Alliance (TNA) justified the killing based on LTTE claims that an SLAF attack 2 days prior in Puthukudiyiruppu had killed 22 Tamil civilians. He was the only source that officially linked the Gongala civilian massacre to the SLAF attack, trying to whitewash the crime. In doing so Tamil Elamists (which includes both peaceful Tamil Elam supporters and the LTTE) sent out a powerful message - they want to ethnically cleanse the North East of every non-Tamil.

Those who heard, saw or read about subhuman acts of Tamil Tigers resolved to annihilate these uncivilised hordes from the face of the earth. While this was not the first barbaric attack of Tamil Tigers, it was certainly not the last.

V DAY 2009

After a period of illusion, Sri Lanka took on Tamil Tiger Terrorists in a well planned military manoeuvre in mid 2006 following another similar adventure by Tamil Tigers. After 33 months of intense fighting, Tamil Tigers were annihilated by gallant security forces. May 18th, 2009 became a memorable day not only for Sri Lankans but for all humans. It assumed universal significance because terrorism is the biggest threat to humans today and Sri Lankan security forces pioneered the method of wiping out terrorism.

LTTE terrorists were the most ruthless terror outfit ever to terrorise the world. The human bomb or the suicide bomb was effectively invented and reinvented by the LTTE. LTTE had more suicide bombers at its disposal than all the other terrorist groups combined. It became world’s only terror outfit to have an air force. LTTE had the largest arsenal of artillery among all terror groups in the world. If there is any terror outfit that killed national leaders of two countries, that is the LTTE. This is an achievement in terrorist terms, unmatched for over 17 years. To the horror of humanity, Sri Lankan security forces found submarines in the possession of Tamil Tigers which makes them the only terrorists to have them. Financially, LTTE was the second richest terror outfit annually collecting US$ 200 - 300 million. What’s more significant is all their funds came from developed countries.

Defeating such a colossal terror outfit is no mean task but Sri Lankan security forces achieved it with minimum civilian casualties. War on Terror that is raging around the world killed millions of people but still failed to rid terrorism. What’s more, War on Terror is fought by the richest and technologically most advanced nations. However, their lack of humanity is the main reason for continuing blunders. Sri Lankan security forces on the other hand put humanity first in all their military actions.

V DAY PLUS 1 YEAR

Although the war on terror was won, a bigger war looms ugly on the horizon. It must be fought with insight, clever propaganda, very long range reconnaissance/demolition operations, networking with friendly nations, and economic development. Establishing the rule of law, reducing corruption and safeguarding national and fundamental rights form the basis of it’s national aspect. Those who sacrificed life and limb must be looked after better than those who merely suffered from the war. However, these alone cannot save Sri Lanka as there is a more sinister campaign at work.

Blaming the LTTE alone for ethnic cleansing of Sinhalas and Muslims in the North and from some parts of the East is childish. Ethnic cleansing of non-Tamils was first conceived in the minds of communalist Ilankai TAMIL Arasu Kachchi leaders in 1949-1952. ITAK leader openly declared it on stages. Both LTTE and “moderate” communalist politicians, all of whom are supporters of Tamil Elam, call the ITAK leader “Thanthai” Chelva. His real name was Velupillai Chelvanayakam. The word “Thanthai” has the exact same meaning as “Fuhrer” in German. Only difference between the campaign to create a racially pure Tamil Elam and the campaign to create a racial pure Nazi Germany is that the former had a separation of the ideological leader and the actual executioner.

It is this racist separatism ideology that drove Tamil Tigers to commit extreme acts. Unfortunately they still continue their campaign. Have a look at TAMIL grievances, TAMIL aspirations, TAMIL homelands, TAMIL Congress, TAMIL United Liberation Front, TAMIL Arasu Kachchi, TAMIL Tigers, TAMILnet, etc. Honestly, aren’t these by definition racist? If in doubt, one should tap his/her conscience and ask this question. It doesn’t matter what supposedly created these, the fact is these are ultra racist demands and manifestations that must be avoided in all civilized societies.

Even after the end of the war, most Tamil voters in the North and the East voted for a racist political party that talks nothing but of racist demands. Is this not the plain truth?

We must show our racially deceived brothers and sisters, love, human dignity, compassion and guidance. We must help them not to go deeper into the dungeons of racism as demanded by communalist parties, but to overcome this vicious 63 year old racist bondage and 35 years of ethnic isolation.

Over 100,000 humans died in the war in all four quarters (security forces, LTTE, civilians and IPKF). Their lives must be celebrated in victory no matter what quarter they were in. Aren’t they all together, at last?

A solution is required to bring people of all races together. Communalist war wounds in war ravaged North and East can only be cured by multiculturalism, not by furthering mono-ethnic enclaves that created the war in the first place. Creating multiethnic settlements in the North and East should not be seen as something that will happen automatically. It must be deliberately initiated. This is the new battle. In order to have lasting peace, Sri Lanka must win this battle too.




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Asithri said...

Got to run...

However before I go...

I would humbly urge Pol and Moshey to drop this "tiff" and concentrate where you both are aligned - in fighting to preserve the sovereignty and integrity of our MotherLanka.

You both have struck me as undying, fierce (aha, the kind this OAOA loves! :-)) and unrelenting SL patriots...so it does pain me to see you both go at each other for no good reason...therefore, I ask humbly please cease and desist by looking at the bigger-picture okay...

My warm regards and LOVE to you both...

OaO Asithri

KB said...

Chaps, on a lighter note I just visited that abominable 'news' site, Channel 4 to view their latest outrage against truth and decency. Blackballed bastards had the audacity to pop-up a window requesting me to participate in a survey. I took the opportunity to give all zero's to rating questions, 'I don't like lies' to any question as to why the rating was low, and 'tell the turth' on questions as to how they can improve.

Cheers!

Moshe Dyan said...

we love you OAOA.

when lions have nothing to go at they go at each other. this is part of honing their fighting skills.

it's the same thing here!!!

it's a shame that our multipolar friend is no more. at least he could have been the object of ridicule/attack.

obviously we have to pick a pointless subject matter to fight bcos we agree on all important things!!

isn't it so pol????

Moshe Dyan said...

"Christians in Colombo have organized a prayer vigil for “innocent civilians” who died in the country’s decades-long civil war between the government and Tamil Tiger rebels."

such sakkiliyas.

why can't they ALSO include SLDFs killed/miamed in war??

they do this while harbouring ppl like KASIPPU joseph.

it's time the church say SORRY for some of its members holding LTTE placcards and playing the tiger tune.

let me write someting about it.

Ananda-USA said...

Referring to people by the color of their skin (sudda), applying derogatory adjectives (para), or any other words generally hurtful to broad classes of people, especially to our fellow Tamil citizens of Sri Lanka, is not OK, and is simply counter productive.

Calling Tamil Eelamists, who are bent on destroying Lanka is another thing altogether, but be sure you identify that specific segment of Tamils, and not Tamil people in general.

It is simply not in Sri Lanka's best interest and is foolish to do so .. it just helps the Eelamist Diaspora demonize us further.

Therefore, let us cease and desist from creating unnecessary additional problems for Sri Lanka.

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Anonymous said...

[that's the direct meaning but when associated with a race/community it becomes racist.]

How come? I agree with Asithri. I do agree if we say 'para-demala' its bad as we are in a process of absorbing all tamil muslims into one Sri Lankan identity. But for suddhas this is different.

We are not in a process of making suddhas one of us and it never happens. And its a fact that suddhas are out siders. We know some singalas dying to feel like 'we are one of them' and end up being kalu-suddhas. But suddhas are not one of us and due to modern web/media etc in case if are going to forget that we better use para-suddha more often so that we don't forget. [There is no usage of para-sinhala.]
And we always call all suddhas as ‘sir’ in front of them and call ‘para-suddhas’ only in sinhala when they are far away. If a suddha knows sinhala I don’t think we call him so no matter how bad he is. So I just can’t understand how this be racist insult..?

Further regarding skin color - if one is white or black whats wrong just saying suddha or kalla? We have both kalu-malli and sud-malli without any problem. Problem is discrimination based on skin color which suddha did and we didn't do and don't do.

Anonymous said...

Sorry to interrupt..

[2. true, sudda brought kallathonis but sudda DID unify divided SL administrations into one in 1833 and maintained it till 1948. and handed over a one undivided unitary nation to us. these are facts however you look at them.]

1. If suddha didn't come we anyway do the same as we did in history again and again, may be taking few decades in a worse case.

2. Q-Why suddha did so? A-
1. It was not hard even for foreign suddha to realize that that the best structure SL need is a unified one if the goal is to develop SL economically so that suddha can earn more.
2. Suddha knew our history - several European scholars have studied our history and they simply knew its wrong to divide SL as peelamist demands.
3. I think 1815 agreement officially handover entire island not just hill-country.
4. Also, separation of Pakistan and death toll demotivated repeating same here.
5. By that time, our kalu-suddhas have proven they were 'good' as their chosen tamizas for administration so no big deal in handing over entire island to kalu-suddhas.

[3. US gave training to us CONTINUOUSLY!!!

our weapons were also made by sudda. LTTE weapons would have come via any country but most had chinese/NK origins.
]

Of course suddha did business with us as they expected us to fight few more decades. Who wants to stop making profit? Suddha got mad only when they realized that we are going to finish off this.

[4. more than 32 western countries imposed a ban on LTTE and its front orgs.]

Never expected you to go this down. This ban was of no use other than hurting some tamiza feelings...


[there are suddas who LOVE SL. we cannot say bad things about the entire sudda community. e.g. do we call henry olcott or ew leadbitter a para sudda??? ]

You need to be able to separate individual from a nation. For me, Olkott helped sinhala budhists to imitate west in a buddhist setting and we suddha lovers love him.

________________________________________

I take PS side PS vs MD battle but I think we better discuss more important stuff..

Moshe Dyan said...

ninja,

the real battle is not sudda vs SL.

it is sudda verses tamil elamist, who is the worse bugger.

1. i say tamil elamists are worse than sudda.

2. pol says sudda is worse than tamil elamists.

3. some may say they are equally bad!!

priyashantha said...

I will put Sinhala letters later.

Puka kalu kaetha kalu suddo
Tika tika lewakathi kukko
Mukha kusa pura ganda kakko
Duka da ane un naeththo?

Here is the English translation.

Our kalu suddas cannot become suddas because their ass is dark
They ass-lick suddas doing whatever sudda pleases
Having licked sudda’s ass they eat whatever falls from it
Are you sad kalu suddas because sudda left ‘Ceylon’?

Anonymous said...

MD

[the real battle is not sudda vs SL.]

Real battle is suddha vs SL - more precisly west vs sinhala nationalists mostly buddhists. Instead resisting suddhas if we ignore buddhist religion + sinhala culture and welcome all those evangelists + their religion + market products we are not under any attack from west. In fact, they will defend us.


[1. i say tamil elamists are worse than sudda.

2. pol says sudda is worse than tamil elamists.
]

Tmaiz peezamists alone is nothing. Combination is the worse.

As long as LTTE+west (via INGOs ect) combination worked they survived. Once LTTE got isolated in that lagoon what happened?

Do you really think suddhas doing this war crime BS just becuz of tamizas influence/ begging/ money? West has their own agenda on which "taming SL" is a top priority and they just use tamizas.

gambit said...

boys.. please be kind enough to leave a comment here.. cheers!!

http://www.economist.com/node/16167748/comments

Moshe Dyan said...

cutting bullshit.

ninja,

1. of course sudda has plans for all the 140 poor countries. but there is nothing special of SL. SL has become special bcos of tamil elamists. TEs are the ammunnition for the target, sudda is the gun.

2. also sudda en masse are NOT againts SL. even MOST sudda leaders are not against SL, except a few.

3. TEs screwed us with india then now with sudda.

and they made our country miserable for over 2,000 years time to time. we did fight them off but with difficulty.

4. we can NEVER beat sudda.
but we can beat TEs.

it is stupid to take on the suddas. its a losing battle. but we can frustrate TEs. then sudda gets frusrated too. that is the right approach.

Sam Perera said...

Moshe,

4. we can NEVER beat sudda.
but we can beat TEs.


What is this about? If sudda or whosoever is meddling with our internal matters, the we have no choice here but beat them. I hope that you are not talking about invading other's land which we have not done ever except for Parakramabahu.

Unknown said...

Moshe,
Background talks in so called "WAR Crimes" video and the one old video, which had some LTTE bitches naked and soldiers making fun, are bit simillar as I remember. But I could not find that old video to do a comaprison.
If it is proven, it is very easy to catch the guys around, if these video's not comming from toilet madu, film maker, seeman.

Ananda-USA said...

Priyashantha malli,

I would like to send you an invitation to the new blog Sri Lanka Policy Analysis Center (SLPAC).

Please post your email address here if you want me to do it. I received an email (at LankaPatriot@gmail.com ) from someone claiming to be you, but that person did not verify the request by confirming it here under your blog ID.

gambit said...

weldone Sam.. thanks for the comments..

http://www.economist.com/node/16167748/comments

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

"If sudda or whosoever is meddling with our internal matters, the we have no choice here but beat them."

but we can't.

we can defend ourselves within SL. we can also defend ourselves in the IC with co-operation ONLY.

it is very difficult to beat them and get away elsewhere. of course i mean diplomatically.

how to handle sudda...

1. we should make use of geo-politics to dissuade the sudda.

this works. it has already worked.

2. we should make a distinction between sudda's political leadership and other sudda MFs.

suddas' political leadership and their secret services have been less involved to the detriment of SL than NGOs. NGOs function as cats' paws' of their financiers. but anti-SL NGOs have a grudge against SL OVER AND ABOVE.

we can't go blaming obama, for instance, for what blake does.

3. our enemy is tamil elam, NOT sudda per se. sudda wants to screw ANY AND ALL of the 140 poor countries.

but tamil elamists PARTICULARLY want to destroy SL.

TE oroject can ONLY be frsutrated by colonization.

4. then what happens???? sudda loses the CONDUIT it has in SL. then sudda TEMPORARILY backs down until another opportunity comes along.

this is only long term doable action plan. it hits the heart of TEs with suddas help too!!

USAID helped us do colonization in east in 2006-2009. blake justified it.

UK, etc. financed us in the mahaweli project that too carried colonization in KEY areas bordering tiger active areas. in the case of maduru oya, it went deep into what tigers claimed as theirs.

caritas a christin NGO finances colonization of the madu area now.

so we can get sudda's help to do what is required to do to permanatly resolve this problem. we should get the max.

TEs will NEVER support us in colonization!!!

5. TEs cannot always hide in sudda's arse and survive. when we do mass colonization, they have to do whatever to stop it. and that's when we frustrate them. sudda population too loves ethnic integration. this is why TE die-arse-pora is VERY SILENT about it in the international media.

Moshe Dyan said...

andare,

IF true, that's a remarkable find.

re: HRW's new photos

IF these were committed by SLA, they MUST be punished. whole SL should not suffer bcos of some dumb idiots.

i'm not against peeling off this terrorist's brain. i'm against the stupidity of taking photographs of it and allowing it.

but there is no indication to say there are SLA guys around. they can well be tigers. their physical structure does not seem like SLA. they seem to be younger. obviously SLA didn't deploy such young and weak looking guys at the crucial battle front on that crucial day.

Moshe Dyan said...

ananda,

no disrespect for anyone. i find it difficult to bring myself to think priyasantha (who is a patriotic blogger no doubt) would CONTRIBUTE TO POLICY matters.

i may be wrong.

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Anonymous said...

Couple years ago with the LTTE going from strength to strength (CBK era, Ranil era and beginning of MR era) the media (including State media until MR era) and other “experts” and many politicians + pundits giving speeches/policy were filled with stories creating an atmosphere about the “invincibility” of the LTTE and that the suffering/war/failure of peace etc were all due to Sinhalese following Buddhism and holding onto the shreds of our heritage (which was heavily assaulted then). If the country is to progress for peace then Buddhism and our heritage must be abandoned. This was the undertone message hammered out to our people and openly by the likes of Rosy type gangs (they got very bold to “come out” during Ranilams time since they were so sure everything was going there way).

Cause of problems, poverty & war including LTTE is due to Buddhism. Attempts for peace talks have failed because Sinhalese are intransient due to Buddhism and our Buddhist heritage. If we are to ever know peace and LTTE/suffering is to end then we must abandon Buddhism and embrace suddha and his “teachings” which offer the “obvious way out”.

What happened? We destroyed the LTTE, no matter what these people had to say.
Sinhala Buddhism prevailed/won (do not get me wrong I am not trying to exclude Tamils, Moors/Muslims & others in SL who are on our side/part of SLs fabric today)

That is how these people (kalu-suddhas, Colombians, suddha) see what has happened. Sinhala people have through MR/GR reinforced their historical standing. Our way WON over suddha, which means our way is the right way and that will be the interpretation of Sinhalese since May 18th 2009 (in fact that is human nature).

However suddha is worried because this is exactly how suddha thinks and behaves as we have seen in the past. During brutal savagery used in India & SL enabling them to “win” over freedom movements and ferment their rule, they used their victories as tools to lecture the natives that their way is better, and must be obeyed. We saw this again in WWII especially in Japan and to an extent South Korea later.

That is how these para suddhas think deep down.

Sinhala Buddhists Vs West. Sinhala Buddhists won. This CANNOT be allowed in their minds (as expressed by them indirectly and through their lackeys).

That is one of the reason they are condemning us. They want to make us ASHAMED of winning, winning over them and their bs. How dare inferior people who do not conform to suddhas ways win, when suddha has said very clearly you cannot win because you do not conform to or bow down to superior suddha & have been suffering because of this (they know Sinhala masses are different to Colombians/kalu-suddhas). Which is what all this nonsense is about.

They are a stunned themselves at what as happened and deeply angry with us because of it.

Anonymous said...

Second reason is our defiance of their “authority” when we should bow our heads, resulting in them getting bruised egos. Just look at how far they went to keep Sri Lanka at war, the depths of human depravity they went to by “green lighting” a human shield to justify intervention to save LTTE to keep the country at war. So long as LTTE exists the ability to wage war directly does as well (now of course they are busy making new ways). When MR/GR & thus Sinhala masses (as confirmed through PE & GE results) defied them and their “authority” so bluntly by refusing ceasefire, refusing rescue of LTTE leadership they have gone nuts. They want to PUNISH us for this defiance of their authority. This is not so much a lesson for us alone either, but other countries too.

Proof: ICG and other para suddhas diatribes and rage against us. If you read their bs released against SL it all boils down to SL refusing to have a ceasefire (when suddha to went such lengths of savagery to engineer conditions to make one, i.e. human shield) us bow our heads and let suddha do as he pleases. So they want to punish SL. (If we agreed to let LTTE go they would not be this crazy and persecuting us because LTTE is still around to kill us. The “status quo” would be the same).

They are worried now not only about SL, but other countries suffering conflicts of some kind (Colombia, Venezuela, Cambodia, Thailand, Myanmar, Philippines, Turkey, Pakistan, African countries) which suddha has vested interests in (similar to how they HAD things in SL –if you look at wars in these countries all those “rebels” fighting the state authorities are ALL harboured & HQed in the West) will mimic SL, big problems for these para suddhas then.

We can’t have other countries also ending their conflicts and getting stability. So SL MUST BE PUNISHED. SL MUST BE CONDEMEND AS WRONG (wrong for defying suddha). If you read their reports (including Channel 4 and other Western media) they were CRYING that other countries might copy Sri Lanka in ending wars. They use “massacre of civilian” bs as reasoning it should not be done, when we all know that is bs and they are the real experts at killing civilians be it directly (Iraq, Vietnam) or by proxy (whole 3rd world) in some form as we saw in SL through suddha engineering a human shield.

Anonymous said...

So all this condemning and attacking SL is also to make us an example to other countries NOT to defy para suddha.

They are out of their way to thus crush SL economically. Make our people suffer. Massive propaganda within SL (Rajapakse “dictator”, “abductions”, “look you are miserable under MR”) and out of it “Sri Lanka has become a fear ridden hell hole since Rajapakse came to power”. This is what they always say, they lie out right. According to them SL is BETTER with LTTE around, a white sucking bum like Ranilam as President and without “evil” Rajapakse. This is what they PROJECT to the world as the situation in Sri Lanka and as what Sinhalese think (or should think), that since war ended we are WORSE off without war than when there was war (wtf?).

But beneath all this is the fact THEY ARE PISSED OFF that their bloody LTTE is gone (thing were good FOR THEM with LTTE around) and so long as Rajapakse is around they are screwed, so must get rid of him (regime change/Gonseka) or make him play ball. Way to do that is to punish him (by punishing Sinhala people) through sanctions etc. That is where this war crimes bs is heading. Then tell the world “look at Sri Lanka the hell hole”, which THEY are trying to create but play neutral as if they had nothing to do with (or were forced by “evil Rajapakse” into “taking action”). Just like how they told LTTE to create human shield with civilians, order blood bath then come swooping down as heroes to “save civilians” because they are such superior beings and care so much for innocents.

It is the exact way they allow Tamil die-ass-pora to operate on their soil and play dumb and say “this is what Tamils are telling us, why would Tamils lie”? (As if the most powerful countries in the world are being “duped” by some stateless rats. They also like the sight of some brown person begging/pleading with suddha for an audience and “please side with us” pleas. It rubs their egos well, makes them feel special and gives them a good laugh when people beg such “superior” beings).

They also do not like a different culture, with different values being successful. All those who do not conform to suddha must be poor, backward and suffering because suddha’s ways are superior. To be successful we must adopt their ways, culture. That is good if you want to end up like Philippines or South Korea. South Korea for example has lost is culture, values, has become extremist Christian, Buddhism is spat on, Buddhists are persecuted, parents encourage children to follow suddhas ways because it is seen “as way forward”. Well good for them, but I would rather not loose my Sinhala heritage. THAT is who and what I am, and that is how I want my people to go forward.

Anonymous said...

Maybe someone can explain following, if para suddha is our friend but “misled”:


Why did they try and rescue the LTTE leadership?

Why are they attacking Sri Lanka for “war crimes” (“reports” from the EU & US) the conditions of which they created through the LTTE (including human shield) that they allow to operate on their soil.

Why are they attacking SL over HR they make up (and release through mouth pieces like AI, HRW, Times, CNN, Channel 4) using war situation but say nothing to Pakistan (lets not forget LTTE under Ranilam had set up massive networks in Colombo, Bala the para balla promised mass destruction –“rivers of Sinhala blood”- in the South if we start war with LTTE. MR/GR disabled this network –suddha cried about their human rights. Message during Ranilams time was “if you not support Ranilam you be killed by LTTE”). Pakistan is also hunting down Al Quieda networks in their big cities, West claps Pakistan fighting “war on terror”.

Why do they openly interact and have meetings with Tamil leadership in the West who are just as guilty as the Tamil leadership in Sri Lanka in spite of the so called ban and them knowing exactly who these people are.

Why do they allow funding non-stop despite the so called ban to buy weapons.

Why welcome with open arms GTF and TPGE to ensure racist hatred within the die-ass-pora and thus within SL continues? How does that help with “reconciliation” which suddha is now beating his chest over (why was suddha not interested in “reconciliation” in 2002?). It is clear these people are just the LTTE re-packaged. So why did they allow these people to operate without hindrance before, why do they allow them to operate now and why do they interact with them now (as before) at high Government levels which SL (a legitimate state) is denied access too and spat at like a dog by.

Sam Perera said...

Patriots,

While we have a candid discussions about suddas etc, please make sure to spend you patriotic spirit at The Economist. The place is currently infested by the terrorists. Please make sure that the casual readers get the true picture of the terrorists remnants.

Anonymous said...

“4. then what happens???? sudda loses the CONDUIT it has in SL. then sudda TEMPORARILY backs down until another opportunity comes along.

this is only long term doable action plan. it hits the heart of TEs with suddas help too!!

5. TEs cannot always hide in sudda's arse and survive”


Isn’t this exactly what I said, which you flatly denied, that started this argument!

Suddha is using Tamilia/Tamil racism as a conduit to enter SL. It is best conduit there is (followed by Ranilam/UNP/Kalu-suddhas/pissu Gonseka).

Tamilia would be nobodies if suddha did not give them a ear. Suddha needs Tamilia and Tamilia needs suddha. Suddha hold powers, Tamilia “entrance” to SL. Which is why BOTH are our enemies, not one or the other. Correctly, Tamilia is the one we can fight driectly (war, recolonisation etc). However we should not loose sight of the fact suddha is the reasons Tamilia is so potent.

Anonymous said...

Suddha will not stop supporting Tamilia as a tool against SL until Tamilia is a THREAT to them, their lives/nations and their interests. When that happens goodness knows.

Suddha is still at a loss on what to do without LTTE, they coupled with their fury are pushing the war crimes bs. They tried Gonseka/Ranilam but unfortunately for suddha Sinhala masses will not vote for their lackeys to help them control SL. That is why Tamilia was the best option.

1)It is why they try to save LTTE.

2)It is why they try to keep racism alive (through supporting GTF/TGPE) but call it “reconciliation” so Sinhalese & Tamils will be polarised, and are desperately trying to some how re-start LTTE, which is why they back GTF/TGPE which has now come out of the wood work. Keep Tamil racism alive --> keep Tamils & Sinhalese at each others throats --> create room to make conflict --> start war, LTTE returns!
And justify it as “no reconciliation or political solution”. If we give “political solution” then they have trappings for future war. If we do not they create “pressure” to get one either way we are portrayed as racists and wrong doers.

Added bonus is SL will always be backward with war/division (“Sinhala Buddhist way” thus “wrong way” suddha can tell us, best way is suddha’s!). Plus sanctions through “war crimes” creating economic destitution can also be catalyst for conflict (suddha will tell Tamils –through GTF etc- that they are suffering economically because of Sinhalese doing war crimes –against Tamils at that- which they refused to answer for so had to be punished, but were happy to make Tamils also suffer, p.s. suddha had no choice with sanctions because it was only way to get justice but those damn Sinhalese saw a new way to make tamils suffer!).

All that bs about IDPs was also linked to 1 & 2. Save LTTE (give escape route to trapped SoBs in the camps) plus build Tamil hatred --> “Look how they treated you after crushing your people those Sinhalese drunk on triumphalism put you in concentration camps just to make you suffer as part of their victory celebrations”

War crimes bs is also to keep racism alive (third reason) --> “look how these people shot your children and innocents when they SURRENDERED to them, they were defenceless. They did WAR CRIMES”.

Last Palitha Kohana appeared on the Japanese channel NHK giving an interview on SL, also present was Pakismoothy, some monkey from the ICG, and Aksia (that Japanese person who managed to piss off all of SL).

In this interview both Pakismoothy and the ICG monkey said “we need to do war crimes so Tamils who will ask ‘what happened’ will know justice was served”. Even Alston monkey makes this retarded argument. Who the hell believes that such a thing would make Tamils (in the future) feel justice was served? It will ONLY make them angry and embolden them to fight us/learn more about LTTE, make them feel “second class” so they will always have a “grievances” no matter how fictious. It keeps the racism and hate alive for generations to come.

Now compare this to if the truth was what was presented, no war crimes, real stories of how Tamils (LTTE) sacrificed Tamils for selfishness and how Sinhalese (the victim of Tamil violence) sacrificed their own to save Tamil lives who were “the enemy” in all senses and we had no need to do it. Toss in giving them shelter, food ect when they were IDPs). Suddha’s bs version builds hate, the real version makes Tamils think twice.

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Anonymous said...

We should not forget who these people (suddha) are, nor history of what they did and what they still do (Vietnam, Iraq, SL) when dealing with them, so we are not tricked and conned in the future. We must remember their bag of tricks and forked tongue. I see no harm in of course milking what we can from suddha, so long as we never trust them.

Anyone and everyone who foolishly TRUSTS them have fallen.

Chinese
Indians
Sinhalese
Vietnamese
Native Americans north & south.

Every agreement made broken, every promise spat on.


Look what they did in Middle East in 1970s and 80s.

Armed mad man Shah of Tehran to fight evil USSR.
Cause Islamic revolution.
Arm Saddam to “de-arm” Iran which they just armed, as “Islamic Iran” so powerful and not West billy boy anyway more may swoop East and South to take control of all oil reserves.
Saddam looks like he’s winning, so they smuggle weapons to Iran
After 1 million deaths and boat countries in ruins Saddam came out on top. Too strong for other Arab countries to fight. So they invade and destroy Iraq (with sanctions in 1990). By propaganda of Saddam being greater evil & West neutral do-gooders (as they tell SL & world) they get permanent control of Middle East oil.

If Saddam was allowed to “do as he pleased” he would have turned Iraq into a super power (through control of worlds oil).
If Iran under Ayatollahs or even the pre operation Ajax Government were allowed “do as they pleased” they would have turned Iran into super power (through control of worlds oil).

But what happened? They weaken strong ME countries while propping up puppet states (Saudi) with corrupt inhuman regimes that fatten themselves while masses wallow in poverty. When oil runs out ME will be backward and poor. Arabs & Persians squandered chance to be king makers by listening to suddha and trying to conform to him (only small sections of nations population actually embrace suddha and get rich i.e. worlds Colombians) or have been out right duped by suddha because they stupidly TRUST him.

Even Russia has been conned by them. Part of deal of “controlled” collapse of USSR was NATO would not expand. NATO is right now knocking on Russia’s door. Excuse “different administrations” in EU/US do different things. Hikz

Suddha will not stop supporting Tamilia as a tool against SL until Tamilia is a THREAT to them, their lives/nations and their interests. When that happens goodness knows.

Suddha is still at a loss on what to do without LTTE, they coupled with their fury are pushing the war crimes bs. They tried Gonseka/Ranilam but unfortunately for suddha Sinhala masses will not vote for their lackeys to help them control SL. That is why Tamilia was the best option.

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"Sam Perera said...
Patriots,

While we have a candid discussions about suddas etc, please make sure to spend you patriotic spirit at The Economist. The place is currently infested by the terrorists. Please make sure that the casual readers get the true picture of the terrorists remnants.

May 21, 2010 8:14 AM"



Economist rag is filled with nutters who hate to see any country do well, for SL economic matters, economic experts like Ranil and Harsha are “sources” within SL.

Economist is also a great example of free media, they freely censored my comments repeatedly when i politely pointed out their bs and countered Tamilia at the site.

Last year i wrote a letter to them against their bs articles against SL (as they were censoring my comments). Again very polite.

Guess what? They banned my account.

Anonymous said...

Anyway i have left some comments at the Economist.

Pile of junk is taking forever to load.

I will post some more, in a bit. Do not want to be accused of spam.

Goolge said...

www.economist.com and www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree seem to censor comments quite liberally if they see something harsh being written.

However if you want to slip in something hard hitting, it has to be packaged in with a lot of other stuff! I have seen TEs using racist language at the economist but still get away with it because about 80% to 90% of their post seems "factual" - at least to the editors. Same theory applies if you want to insult somebody.

Anyway, we are not the only aggrieved party.

Some Jews are so peeved with the guardian, they run this blog (based in the US I think):
http://cifwatch.com/

Sam Perera said...

Thanks Pol. It is good post at Economist.

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Anonymous said...

Goolge,

"However if you want to slip in something hard hitting, it has to be packaged in with a lot of other stuff! I have seen TEs using racist language at the economist but still get away with it because about 80% to 90% of their post seems "factual" - at least to the editors. Same theory applies if you want to insult somebody."

"Factual" comments huh? LOL. They allow them becuase they are all pro-TEs as well.

They always censor comments that do not fit their editorial policy which is anti-Sinhala at its core (we see this policy in action with their media/NGO reports & articles).

You should see the Times, filled with vile racist filth against Sinhalese (both i nthe articles written by Suddhas and comments by Tamilia), can't counter them i.e. complain against the racism or write against it, nor attack Tamilia on the same level because you get censored.

Going to see how things go at Economist. Will post more directly to do with the bs in the article (Rajapakse "family rule" & free media) in a bit.

Anonymous said...

Lankan economic conditions improving as expected – IMF
May 21, 2010 04:51 pm

Sri Lanka’s overall economic conditions are improving as expected and economy is likely to show strong growth this year, the International Monetary Fund said today.



The IMF also projects 6.5% GDP growth for Sri Lanka for 2010. The IMF is encouraged by the assessment for the release of the third tranche of the loan, the Mission chief further said.



http://www.adaderana.lk/news.php?nid=8227

The comments by the UNP zombies are just pathetic.

Economy only "does well" under UNP.
War cannot be won because UNP says so, but today it was won by "commander of the salvation army" who when in an alliance with the UNP (during the Presidential Election) apparently fought and won the war single-handedly from a hospital bed in Singapore and the Great Wall of China.

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Anonymous said...

Little bit of entertainment courtesy of Mutipolar:

"bIjJa said...
This author has been banned from posting on the other competing web site from Sri Lankan origin called SLDF and all his postings have been removed. Number of other bloogers posted in SLDF have complained removal of their posts.


Oops!
What a shame.
Wonder who the “number of other bloggers” are? Must be referring to himself.

Anonymous said...

[Number of other bloogers posted in SLDF have complained removal of their posts.]

Hikz but one "other bloger" called andare got white vanned for some of his posts.. but no complaining.. nice going.. multipolar alos do right things in the same way sungod did.. hikz

Sam Perera said...

Ninja,

That andare was another multipolar attack. In the recent past, multipolar tried to take the blog handles of andare and tata, well known patriots. Probably nobody had a chance to see the posts before they were sent to Nanthikadal.

Anonymous said...

Haha,

It is good to know Eelamists also visit LankaENews for their does of opium. LankaENews must be benefitting immensely from that audience.

Anonymous said...

doses*

Moshe Dyan said...

pol,

have a look at this function,

y = ax^2

where a > 0.

how to make y = 0?????

by making x = 0!!!!

this is what we should do. our MAIN enemey is NOT sudda, its TEs. we should frustrate TEs, that means sudda loses gis conduit (of course he will find another). but we defeat the biggest enemy.

sudda trouble from 1948 to 1983 was nothing. we could manage it without blood shed. violence, major difficulties. but when TEs and sudda got combined, that became a real menance.

you also said we defeated LTTE defying sudda advice.

that's my point.

we didn't defeat sudda and as a by product LTTE was destroyed. no. we targeted the LTTE whil keeping sudda at bay.

this is what should happen.

let me give my old war time example.

the war came to a situ where we were holding a TE's head under water. then sudda came and start to pull us away from water; start hitting us; tried to distract us.

BUT we persisted. we kept the struggling TE's head under water until it died.

that means TEs are our biggest enemies not sudda.

we have to repond to sudda when he creates trouble to us diplomatically, etc. but for a long term solution, we have to screw tamil elamists by frustrateing TE. that screws BOTH TEs and suddas.

if our main attack is to be on sudda, that is a losing strategy. TEs will further hide up sudda's arse and become even bigger darlings and sudda will use sanctions, etc. to destroy us. it is not about sudda worshipinf, but about gettin sudda to our side as much as possible using geo-politics and facts.

Moshe Dyan said...

lovely. demolish ALL TE crap. they don't belong to SL.

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe Dayan,

I do not prejudge the ABILITY of bloggers to contribute to SLPAC in issuing my invitations.

While I give PRIORITY to those who have DEMONSTRATED both an ABILITY and an INTEREST, I want to give all bloggers who have demonstrated their PATRIOTISM an EQUAL OPPORTUNITY to contribute.

Whether they will contribute or not is their business; they may surprise us! :)

Ananda-USA said...

Moshe,

"SLA demolishes Valvai Monument for victims massacred by IPKF in VVT"

This must be done comprehensively as a matter of National Policy. All Eelamist structures and monuments that attempt to glorify the cause of Eelam, must be eradicated completely.

Only the Torture Chambers of the Wanni Gulag should be preserved for the Wanni Holocaust Museum Tour to display the horrors perpetrated by this monstrous terrorist movement.

Jayawewa!

Anonymous said...

MD

I see you sort of contradicting yourself with TEs are our biggest enemies not sudda and rest of what you write. How do you compare here? If its in only for present time frame, counting only the numbers killed by LTTE, military wise..?? In the big picture it should be other way around.

[1. of course sudda has plans for all the 140 poor countries. but there is nothing special of SL. SL has become special bcos of tamil elamists. TEs are the ammunnition for the target, sudda is the gun.]

True, suddas have their own agenda based on 3 factors.
1. Security - suddhas feel insecure so they go and kill to feel secure. SL is not under this category.
2. Economy - Suddas need third world countries to get natural resources + cheep labor and produce products for their consumption.
3. Suddhas need as many as of rest of the world to believe what they believe - religion.

For SL, apart from this suddhas/west have special interest due to the geographical location of SL in the Indian ocean. Suddhas indeed need a friendly/tamed GSL here not a hostile one. And tamizas in SL is a bonus for suddhas - they just use tamizas.

Suddhas just need us to be like them, do what they say and be 'good boys' - problem solved. Sudhas do not want to destroy SL physically or ruin the nation. They need third world countries for their benefit. In contrast, peelaam di-ass-pora wants revenge; They want SL to have more economic problems, internal issues, natural disastors, etc and more SL suffer more pleasure for them.

So there is a contradiction with peelaam di-ass-pora and suddhas on SL in long term. But right now with war crime BS both work together. Siddha need Chinese loving SL to be tamed while peelaam di-ass-pora looking for revenge. Combination is the worse and its working now.

[2. also sudda en masse are NOT againts SL. even MOST sudda leaders are not against SL, except a few.]

Of course, 99% of normal suddhas do not know SL is an animal or a food. Those who know do not know its in Africa or ME. So SL do not have any such problem with individual suddhas. This is a political problem for some interested parties.

Even their leaders don't care. Only who depends on peelaam di-ass-pora votes make problems. Sinhala:Tamil diaspora ratio is around 1:10. So peelaam di-ass-pora will enjoy said benefit.

[3. TEs screwed us with india then now with sudda. and they made our country miserable for over 2,000 years time to time. we did fight them off but with difficulty.]

Not true - A'pura survived almost 1000 years. Even after that it was 2-3 decades threats time to time. But when suddha came here we suffered 500 years!!! Still TEs is bigger enemy than suddhas?? It’s the opposite – India used TEs to screw SL and they did.

[4. we can NEVER beat sudda.
but we can beat TEs. it is stupid to take on the suddas. its a losing battle. but we can frustrate TEs. then sudda gets frusrated too. that is the right approach.
]

Here first half is the sort of 'patriotic UNPers chinthanaya'. MR defeated suddhas once diplomatically but this a nation has to keep doing. True - we can't defeat west military wise but diplomatic front winner depends on how you play.

Anonymous said...

Listen to a normal sudda..

http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/asia/sri-lanka-once-offlimits-areas-are-reopening-to-tourists-1979651.html

kevin said...

I am Kevin's friend.
Must say that all this talk about suddas are irrelevant to our cause.
CH4 seems to put out these sensational news items daily.Yesterday alone most of these stations put out several similar broadcasts.One about blood money diamond gifted to the famous model Naomi Campbell,then another accusing the british government torturing war prisoners another one where they them selves were accused in bias reporting the Thai conflict where they were siding the red shirts who are supporting the one time criminal PM living in exile.They were pitting the street mobs against the government of that country.All these gruesome pictures bring pleasure and interest to their audiences and if there's a demand for such stupid stories then the likes of CH4 supplies it,also the all powerful diaspora may have decided to celebrate their fateful day with the bleeding hearts of the like of Arbour.They can say what they want but they have to prove it courts which I doubt they would bother.I would just ignore them with a pinch of salt.

kevin said...

Sam
I think it was 2500 in 1956 and it should be 2554 this year.I remember some people were saying SWRD was the Deyasena Kumara.There was a big illuminated pandol of SWRD with a such a claim.
They may politicize this Wesak too.

Anonymous said...

"kevin said...
I am Kevin's friend.

they them selves were accused in bias reporting the Thai conflict where they were siding the red shirts who are supporting the one time criminal PM living in exile. "


I do not know about Channel 4’s views but about "criminal PM":

Thaksin may have been a "crook" but he represented the rural poor and looked after them (started provided jobs, healthcare & oppurtunities for them) he also made the "big mistake" of supporting China plus "considering" Kra Canal, as a result Thailand’s Colombians joined with Military egged on by the West (and promises of riches, plus their desire to be in power again) to get rid of him. Similar thing they tried with SL through Gonseka.

Now Thailand is back in control of ruling elite, rural poor who have not felt a dime of Thailands "economic success" have rioted to try and get whats theirs after opportunity was denied to them through removal of Thakisn and subsequent fake elections. Thaksin was ousted undemocratically.

Current PM is a criminal (stealing money) worse than Thakisn, but he wears a suit most of the time and does what suddha tells him so he is good guy. I saw Aljerkoff viciously poor hate on red shirts and praise current PM throughout conflict period, as did Times of London (best bit i like was this, "red shirts happily take medial help from Government they try to oust". That not duty of Government? When Sri Lanka feeds and heals enemy combatants during war years and saves 300,000 civilian population sacrificing our own soldiers to do so when we did not need to coupled with risk of that population being hostile, we committed “war crimes”. Imagine if something like what is taking place in Thailand happened in SL, would be called genocide and UN might land in Sri Lanka).


"They were pitting the street mobs against the government of that country.All these gruesome pictures bring pleasure and interest to their audiences and if there's a demand for such stupid stories then the likes of CH4 supplies it,also the all powerful diaspora may have decided to celebrate their fateful day with the bleeding hearts of the like of Arbour. "


Suddha likes to see backward world, gives them a good ego rub.

"They can say what they want but they have to prove it courts which I doubt they would bother.I would just ignore them with a pinch of salt."

I will not take this with a pinch of salt, we're being accused of dastardly crimes we are not guilty of with a ridiculous level of racist driven bias unleashed against Sinhalese day in day out by "free media" because we committed the crime of defending ourselves and not bowing down to the Wests authority. This can escalate into more “punishment” of our people. Way I see it, suddha is creating grounds to put economic sanctions on SL (getting world to support sanactions through this disgusting defamation) unless we play ball.

Worse we do not have an equal media platform to give counter view point/argument. Mighty free and fair media always censors and ignores and does not give equal weighting to other side of who they reporting against. That is not a problem in itself if so called “free media” did not go around boasting that they are “free and fair” and give “honest reports” which is a blatant lie. Why doesn’t Western media start with disclaimer: “this is sensationalised one sided exaggerated news made to make the white audiences watching this feel good about themselves and of course suit our editorial policies/directions given by the Foreign Office and all we report may not be factual or a fair representation of the truth”.

Then there would be no problem.

Moshe Dyan said...

ninja,

i think you are contradicting yurself!!

"This is a political problem for some interested parties.

Even their leaders don't care. Only who depends on peelaam di-ass-pora votes make problems. Sinhala:Tamil diaspora ratio is around 1:10. So peelaam di-ass-pora will enjoy said benefit."

also you said MOST suddas don't know whether SL is an animal or a food. then why blame sudda???? as you say, it is only a small proportion of interested parties within the sudda.

but ALL TEs know!!

LTTE was nurtured by india to screw us and they did. indians are NOT suddas!!! actually at that time suddas supported us.

now you have come up with suddas and "NORMAL" suddas. lol!!

i think this ITSELF resolves the matter for good.

are theur ANY (i mean ANY) NORMAL tamil elamists????? NO!! ALL tamil elamists are ABNOMAL and after our land, nation, resources, tax money, flesh and blood

Moshe Dyan said...

kevin,

agree.

Moshe Dyan said...

ninja,

MR beating sudda.

rubbish!!! MR teamed up with suddas to beat other suddas. russians are suddas too.

we started screwing TEs in 2006 but we kept the norwegian suddas. we sacked them only in 2008. tigers sacked all other suddas (sweedish, danish, icelandic) from SLMM in 2006.

we still have diplomatic relations with ALL suddas countries. we will NEVER sever these ties.

BUT we TOTALLY reject TGTE!!!

diplomatic relations with TGTE????? my arse. unthinkable.

Ananda-USA said...

My Comment at the Globe and Mail:
.............
Bravo Ambassador Chitranganee Wagiswara .. you have told the TRUTH!

Tamil Diaspora activists attempt to wage their continuing struggle for Eelam by raising "human rights" concerns on the basis of inflated numbers of deaths in the NFZ at the end of the Eelam war.

They conveniently forget who held those people captive to form a human shield in the war zone, and who in the Tamil Diaspora aided and abetted the LTTE to do that while they waged a propaganda campaign to rescue their monstrous Sun God!

40,000 civilian deaths indeed! Why not say 400,000! Prof. Rohan Gunaratne has estimated a maximum of 1,400 civilian deaths from all causes .. both by deliberate LTTE shootings, and by inadvertant GOSL fire.

Recently, PBS broadcast a movie of the US Army's campaign to liberate the Phillipines from the Japanese Army in WWII. It caused the death of over 100,000 Filipinos in Manila alone! The US Army campaign up the island chain from Guam to Okinawa caused immense civilian casualties .. but that was acceptable "collateral damage".

Yet, the Government of Sri Lanka NEVER USED FOOD AS A WEAPON over the 30-year period of the Eelam war. The GOSL fed its Tamil citizens of the North and East, and paid the salaries of government employees who generally worked for the LTTE! In war, the GOSL did everything possible to minimize civilian casualties. It refrained from carpet bombing, and indiscriminate shelling. It successfully rescued the Tamil hostages in the NFZ, something very few other armies have done, and provided immediate and long term rehabilitation assistance to the rescued.

This is a record of humanitarian operations by an Army and a Government confronting a diabolical terrorist army that no others in the world can match.

IGNORE the false propaganda of the Eelamist Tamil Diaspora who want to resurrect their murder and mayhem in Sri Lanka!

Ananda-USA said...

Aren't Sun Gods IMMORTAL?

Why should they fear mere mortals?


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'LTTE chief wanted to live to fight another day'

PK Balachandran
ExpressBuzz.com
May 19, 2010

COLOMBO: The LTTE chief Velupillai Prabhakaran died fighting in an islet in the Nanthikadal lagoon on the morning of May 19, 2009. But to die fighting was his last option. He wanted to escape and live to fight another day.

Prabhakaran had a number of escape plans in his mind, says Prof.Rohan Gunaratna, Head, International Centre for Political Violence and Terrorism Research at the Nanyang Technological University in Singapore.

USE OF SHIP BASED CHOPPER

Gunaratna told Express that one of Prabhakaran’s daring plans was to get the vessel Christina to come near the No Fire Zone (NFZ) in Mullaitivu district, and get picked up from the shore by a chopper based on the vessel.

Ravishankar Kanakarajah, alias Sangili, of Canada, had arranged the ship and kept it in readiness in Indonesia. But one Achchutharan, who was put in incharge of arranging for the chopper, failed to get one, Gunaratna said. Christina was secured by the Sri Lankan navy after the war.

The second option was to sneak out of the NFZ and head for the Yala game sanctuary in the deep south, and use the less patrolled southern coast to escape from the island.

The third option was to escape to hideouts in the Eastern Tamil-dominated district of Batticaloa, with the help of Ram, who, according to Gunaratna, had managed to survive in the East despite losing the war there in 2007.

But none of these three options could be exercised because the Sri Lankan forces had blocked all land and sea routes. By May 16, the entire Mullaitivu coastline was in the army’s hands and the naval blockade was impregnable.

BREAKING INTO THE WANNI

The fourth option was to break through the thick Lankan cordon on the west bank of the Nanthikadal lagoon and find sanctury in the Wanni jungles. There, the LTTE had, with foresight, buried its weapons before withdrawing.

In trying to breakthrough, a 140-strong Tiger unit led by Pottu Amman and Charles Anthony, Prabhakaran’s elder son, first pretended to be civilian refugees but soon opened deadly fire and unleashed 30 suicide bombers on the Lankan guards. The Tigers breached the army’s forward linesm but were eventually crushed. Among the dead were Pottu Amman and Charles Anthony.

At another point, the LTTE’s political chief, Nadesan, Peace Secretariat chief Puleethevan, and military wing leader Ramesh were killed in a crossfire.Reporting this controversial incident, the state-owned Sunday Observer of May 24, 2009 said: “Although there was speculation that they had expressed their willingness to surrender, there was no such indication as they had engaged in fierce fighting and (got) killed.”

REFUGE IN AN ISLET

Prabhakaran and his bodyguards had, in the meanwhile, begun trekking along the banks of the Nanthikadal lagoon from Vellmullivaikkal to Karayamullivaikkal, to find a point where they could mingle with civilian refugees and cross the lagoon. But according to the weekly Nation a starving Prabhakaran got into the lagoon and took shelter in an islet on the night of May 18. As he was standing knee deep in the muddy water, a grenade hit his chest and a gun shot ripped through his skull. Troops of the 4 Vijayabahu Regiment found his mud soaked body at 10 am on May 19.

Ananda-USA said...

Gonseka claims he MIS-SPOKE Himself!

LoL!


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Fonseka denies alleged war crimes

PK Balachandran
Express News Service
First Published : 20 May 2010 05:33:06 PM IST
Last Updated : 20 May 2010 05:42:22 PM IST

COLOMBO: Gen.Sarath Fonseka, the detained former Army Commander and Member of Parliament, said here on Thursday, that Sri Lankan troops had not committed any war crimes in the war in the North, which ended on May 19 last year.

Replying to questions from the media on the latest video telecast by Channel 4 of UK, which showed barebodied young Tamils with hands tied behind their backs being shot by Sri Lankan troops, Fonseka said that the allegations were, “as always, general and vague.”

“Practically no such incidents took place. The Sri Lankan troops are highly disciplined,” he said.

“But if specific incidents are brought to the government’s notice, the latter is duty bound to investigate them. In the past, the army had investigated crimes committed by troops and even sentenced some to death,” he said.

NO ILLEGAL ORDERS FROM TOP

The General asserted that there was no interference from higher ups ( whether it was the President or the Defence Secretary), not to speak of getting illegal orders to kill surrendering LTTE cadre or civilians.

“I was conducting the operations 100 percent. And no illegal order was given to me by anyone,” he said.

Asked if somebody higher up could have given such illegal orders when he was away in China between May 11 to May 17, 2009, in the critical last week of the war, the General said that he was fully incharge even then, and that he was not aware of any illegal orders being given to the field commanders by anyone.

Fonseka said that his subsequent statement in a weekly newspaper about the Defence Secretary Gotabaya Rajapaksa asking field commanders to shoot three top LTTE leaders coming to surrender showing a white flag, was based on what a journalist told him.

He then referred to a statement by Gotabaya in a recent press interview that he was in close contact with the ground commanders at all stages of the battle.

“If this is true, it amounts to encouraging indiscipline in the army,” the General said.

VICTORY PARADE CANCELLED

The war victory elebrations planned for Thursday, with a massive military parade on the Galle Face green in Colombo, had to be cancelled because of the heavy rains lashing Colombo and other parts of Sri Lanka displacing over 160,000 people.

Ananda-USA said...

Too bad there are no Tamil Canadian MPs who oppose Candian Eelamists!

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Canada warns Sikh radicals against violence

ExpressBuzz.com
April 27, 201

TORONTO: In a stern warning to Sikh radicals here, the Canadian government said Monday that "threats of violence" by extremists will not be tolerated.

The warning comes after last week's threats in Vancouver by hardliner Sikhs to Indo-Canadian leader and former Canadian health minister Ujjal Dosanjh.

Speaking in the House of Commons, Deepak Obhrai, Indian-origin parliamentary secretary, said his government "strongly condemns the recent threats of

violence made by extremists within the Canadian Sikh community.

This is unacceptable.''

The Sikh hardliners had warned Dosanjh against attending a Vaisakhi parade in the Vancouver suburb of Surrey last week. The threat led to outrage among

Indo-Canadians and condemnation by Canadian leaders and the media.

A moderate Sikh who became premier of Canada's British Columbia province in 2000,Dosanjh has been a staunch opponent of radical Sikhs in Canada since

the 1980s when the pro-Khalistan movement was at its peak in India and Canada.

Obhrai, who is deputy to the Canadian foreign minister, said, "The Government of Canada and Canadians stand strongly behind efforts to strengthen our

relationship (with India) and in no way will accept, support or encourage any efforts that undermine a strong, united and multicultural India.''

The four-time MP said, "Canada-India ties continue to strengthen following the very successful visit to India by a strong delegation led by Prime Minister

Harper last November.

"Canada is home to a large Indo Canadian community. Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Christian, Buddhist and Jains, all contribute immensely to further this

relationship.

"India is the world's largest multicultural democracy. It also has a well established legal process. India today is an example of the fruits that cooperation

between communities bring.''

This is the first statement by the Canadian government after Indian prime minister Manmohan Singh raised the issue of rising activities of Khalistani elements

in Canada with his counterpart Stephen Harper in Washington recently.

Ananda-USA said...

I don't believe it: Canadians jailing their Best & Brightest? LoL!


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Tamil jailed in Canada for funding LTTE

ExpressBuzz.com
May 15, 2010

VANCOUVER: In the first conviction in Canada for funding of terrorists abroad, a court here jailed a Tamil for collecting money for the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Ealam (LTTE) which was routed by the Sri Lankan forces in May last year.

Prapaharan Thambithurai, 46, was jailed for six months after pleading guilty to the criminal offence after his arrest here in March 2008. The LTTE and many other terror outfits were banned in Canada in 2006. He faced up to 10 years, but the prosecution demanded him to be locked for two years. In the end, Judge Roberts Powers of the British Columbia supreme court here ordered him to be locked for just six months.

The Sri Lankan Tamil will complete his jail term in the Toronto area where he lives. He came to Canada as a refugee in 1988.

Thambithurai was arrested while seeking donations for the World Tamil Movement for relief work in Sri Lanka. But Canadian intelligence agencies found that the body was a front organization for the banned LTTE. Pleading guilty, he admitted that half of the money raised for humanitarian aid went to the LTTE. His lawyer said his client had no option because any humanitarian aid for Tamils had to pass through the rebel-held area.

His conviction comes at a time when the huge Sri Lankan Tamil diaspora here is set for observing a two-day mourning to mark the first anniversary of the end of the ethnic conflict in the island nation.

The 300,000-strong community is observing May 17-19 as 'Days of Remembrance' for the Tamils killed in what they described as 'war crimes against humanity' by Sri Lankan forces.

The largest diaspora outside the island nation, it was the most vocal supporter of the LLTE during the ethnic conflict. They virtually brought Toronto to a standstill last year as the LTTE faced imminent defeat.

Ananda-USA said...

Anti-Maoist action will take time: GK Pillai

Sarwar Kashani
May 21, 2010

NEW DELHI: The government is prepared for casualties in a long-running and intensifying battle against deep-rooted Maoist insurgents, affirms Home Secretary G.K. Pillai, saying that 150,000 policemen are being recruited to build up pressure that will force them to come for talks.

"It is a long haul. It will take time. Casualties will come. You have allowed Maoists to take deep roots. But we have no doubt that we will defeat them," Pillai told IANS, days after the guerrillas in yet another attack bombed a bus , killing over 30 civilians and special police officers in Chhattisgarh's Dantewada district, the heart of the left wing insurgency.

The attack came some 40 days after their deadliest strike left 76 security personnel dead April 6 in the same region of mineral-rich central India where Maoists have grown for decades and claim to be championing the cause of the country's rural dispossessed, including tribal groups that rank among the poorest in the country.

"I think the April 6 was the one-off incident of violation of norms, carelessness (on part of security personnel). We are daily catching and arresting (them), not in big numbers though. That is why they are reacting. They have started feeling the pressure and will continue that," said the home minister's closest lieutenant, seated in his North Block office.

He said the government was committed to its dialogue offer and was even ready to halt its operations against Maoists if they agree to talk and solve any problem they feel tribal groups were facing.

"Stop the violence. No violence from you, no operation from us... then let's discuss. But they don't want that."

So what is the government's plan of action after Maoists have repeatedly spurned the talks offer?

"We will continue building up the pressure. All militant groups will come for talks only when they get under pressure. Today they are not under that much pressure yet. But that will come," Pillai told IANS.

Are there any weaknesses on part of the government? Pillai says yes.

"We are short of manpower. Manpower is being built up. We are recruiting 150,000 policemen, 60,000 of them in naxal (Maoist)-affected areas. When 60,000 more people will come, each police station will have 30-40 policemen. Today there are 3-4 policemen in a police station. It is a slow but steady process.

"But within two years we will turn the tide against Maoists," he said.

Dantewada attack could have been deadlier

The Maoist attack earlier this week on a bus carrying civilians and special police officers (SPOs) in Dantewada in Chhattisgarh could have been deadlier if the guerrillas had detonated the bomb a few seconds later because two more vehicles loaded with security men were following the ill-fated bus, Home Secretary G.K. Pillai said.

Ananda-USA said...

Anti-Maoist action will take time: GK Pillai

.......continued...
Pillai said he had "no doubt" that Maoists made a mistake when they saw saw some SPOs in the bus and detonated the bomb that left over 30 people, including civilians,

"I have no doubt that Maoists made a mistake. Behind this bus there was a truck carrying SPOs and behind that there was a Bolero (SUV) also carrying SPOs. They made the mistake of attacking the civilian bus because they saw some SPOs there. And they forgot about the civilians or they don't care about civilians," Pillai told IANS.

He said the casualties could have been more "because if they had allowed the bus to go they would have got the truck. But they saw the first thing and made the mistake," .

Asked how were the SPOs, carrying arms, allowed to use the civilian bus, Pillai said: "Normally they travel in their own buses. But in this case there were not enough government vehicles to take them."

SPOs are not regular policemen but are are recruited from the local population to assist the police and paramilitary forces in their anti-insurgency operations.

Pillai said no special investigation has been ordered to probe the attack.

Ananda-USA said...

Cana going after India's Border Security Forces on "Human Rights".

All of this will change only when terrorism come home to Canada!


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Canada accuses BSF of war crimes

Jaideep Sarin
May 21, 2010

CHANDIGARH / NEW DELHI: A retired Border Security Force (BSF) trooper was denied a Canadian visa after a diplomat accused the paramilitary force of "war crimes" and being a "notoriously violent force".

In a communication to Fateh Singh Pandher, a New Delhi-based Canadian High Commission diplomat has described the BSF as a "notoriously violent paramilitary unit" which is "responsible for war crimes in India".

The communication, sent to the trooper based in Siar village, 25 km from Punjab's industrial city of Ludhiana, accused him of not only working with "a unit engaged in systematic attacks on civilians" but also of not providing any evidence in his visa application "disassociating" himself from the force.

Pandher, 60, who retired 10 years ago, told IANS: "By writing such things to me to reject my visa, the Canadian High Commission has not attacked me but this is an attack on my country and my force.

"They accused me of being a member of the BSF in a way that sounded as if I had committed some sin. Even in the interview in April 2009, I was asked irrelevant questions about the BSF. They even accused the BSF of targeting a particular community for attacks and rapes."

An upset Pandher said that he told the Canadian diplomat that the BSF never committed atrocities on innocent people and did not target any particular community since the force itself had people from all religions.

"But the official refused to agree with any of my comments," Pandher told IANS.

A ministry of external affairs spokesperson in New Delhi said that "the matter has come to our attention. It has been taken up appropriately".

According to Pandher, he had applied for an immigration visa in 2005 and had completed all the paperwork. His medical tests were done in 2008 and he was called for a personal interview in April 2009.

"On Dec 8, 2009, I was sent this letter from the high commission in New Delhi levelling allegations against the BSF," Pandher, whose daughter is settled in Edmonton town in Canada, said.

The BSF, a paramilitary force for guarding India's borders, has been stationed in the trouble-torn Jammu and Kashmir state for a number of years.

Canada is home to a large number of immigrants from India.

In recent years, Canada has been promoting immigration and tourism from Punjab and has even set up a consulate in Chandigarh to handle the rush of cases from the state.

Hundreds of immigration agencies operate out of Punjab and Chandigarh to help people, particularly youth, to migrate to Canada and other western countries.

tata said...

Pol,
I see you frequently referring the term "Sinhala Buddhist". What exactly do yo mean? I think you mean the Sinahal Buddhist Culture. There's a difference. Latter is not about a religion. It's about the culture.

I think what we should differentiate is between Sinhala Buddhist Culture and Western/Chritian Culture.

I personally know people who are Catholic by religion but culturally very much Sinhala Buddhist (one clue: they may celebrate Sinhala new year; but don't get deceived by this :)
[We can find similar people with other religious denominations: Hindu, Muslim, etc.]

On the other hand, I know people who are Buddhist (maybe even more Buddhist than Lord Buddha himself) but culturally they are western/Christian. Columbians belong to this group. Ranil is the perfect example.

So, I think it's important to clearly differentiate between these two groups and call them as such. When you say "Sinhala Buddhist", one might get a wrong impression of what you say.

tata said...

About conduits:

Definitely Eelamists is one. We should fight and block it.

But there are other possible conduits:
1. Columbians. They will use HR, Freedom of Speech, Press Freedom, and all other BS.

2. JVP. This is a lesser threat than 1. But it was not so some time back.

I guess we can generalize
"Para Suddha" = external forces = India, West and all other who wants to control us.

I agree with Moshe that it's not a good idea to fight all external forces head on. Diplomacy is the key word I guess (ie. tell them to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip).

In my opinion, what we should do is destroy or cripple all conduits.

Ananda-USA said...

Patriots,

Go to this Globe and Mail article and support the GOSl.

Eelamists are winning by default!

Anonymous said...

MD

i think you are contradicting yurself!!

No I am not. See andare's interpretation for suddas as well. Suddha was used for more than one meaning. isn't it obvious?

Unknown said...

ninja,
I didnt write anything about sudda

Anonymous said...

Sorry Its not andare I meant tata.

I guess we can generalize
"Para Suddha" = external forces = India, West and all other who wants to control us.


When we say suddha please understand within context what suddha we are talking about. When we talk about suddhas attacking SL of course we are not talking about Russians or any other European nations. Possibly not some Tim Tom or Kim Jon inside a home in USA. Probably some particular sudda like milibanda. Koreans are not suddas for us but that ban kan moon is another sudda. Obama may be kalla but he too a sudda if he talks against us.

Mahavamsa calls 'demala' for any kind of invader. Tamils, other south indians and even Portuguese were called as demalas on common basis.

We call all our enemies as tigers until recently. Even Hilary-Milibanda were called as white tigers. We had no confusion with 4 leg tigers. But now 2 leg tigers are no more in SL. So I think we are calling suddas for our enemies. This should not be for any confusions.

Ananda-USA said...

My second comment at the Globe and Mail website:

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Silver Cyclops said .. Hear This .. Most Canadians don't give a damn about Sri Lanka.

The problem is that Canada has granted residency to 300,000 Tamils from Sri Lanka, and ALLOWS THEM TO FOMENT MURDER AND TERRORISM in SRI LANKA through their support for these terrorists. That is only a problem for Sri Lanka now, but it will become a problem for CANADA in the future. In the meantime, Canada's foreign policy, its welfare, immigration and legal systems, and its democratic freedoms are played upon and exploited like a violin by these terrorists.

As such organizations take root and grow in Canada, they become mafia-like criminal organizations that are law unto themselves. They terrorize the law abiding citizens of Canada, develop links with other terrorist networks like Al-Quaida, and join forces with local separatist movements like those who advocate an independent French Canada. In the future, given Canada's small population, they can in time grow into separatist movements seeking to breakaway from Canada itself. The Eelamist Tamil Diaspora, in particular, who now beg on their knees for your help, being intrinsically a racist movement will begin to agitate for special rights, and a separate existence in Canada as they increase in number. Peaceful co-existence with Canadian natives who welcomed them with open arms .. is not for them .. that is not their greedy mindset.

Canada will then to rue the day when it admitted such terrorists with racist agendas to their country, and fostered them in its bosom ignoring the gathering storm. By then, it may well be too late to act, without setting aside all of your treasured notions about justice and fair play!

Ananda-USA said...

My Comment at ExpressBuzz.com

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There will be no separate monoethnic aparthied Bantustans in Sri Lanka for any ethnic community ... EVER!

Sri Lanka is, and will always be, ONE Nation, of ONE People, sharing ONE common DESTINY for EVER!

EQUAL Rights for every citizen guaranteed by ONE system of law applicable to EVERYBODY, EQUAL RESPONSIBILITY to love, protect and foster Sri Lanka enforced by those very same laws.

Any incurably frustrated and dissatisfied person, of any ethnic, religious or language group, who cannot abide by those principles is INVITED to emigrate to ANY OTHER COUNTRY where he can find a government willing to grant him special rights and privileges and existence in SPLENDID ISOLATION.

That country is not in Sri Lanka ... NEVER HAS BEEN, NEVER WILL BE!

Jayawewa, Sri Lanka!

Moshe Dyan said...

ninja,

"When we talk about suddhas attacking SL of course we are not talking about Russians or any other European nations. Koreans are not suddas for us but that ban kan moon is another sudda. Obama may be kalla but he too a sudda if he talks against us."

if russians are not suddas, no one is a sudda.

this is self-contradictory to the core. good suddas are not suddas and bad ones (by SL interests) are suddas!!!

this is tamilnet logic. when getting benefits, that's their right. when have to pay for them, that's chingala chauvinism.

when we want to attack, we call it sudda. so that should mean TEs are also suddas????

anyway there is NO CONTRADICTION WHATSOEVER when it comes to tamil elamists. there are no good tamil elamists.

kevin said...

Pol
You got it wrong mate about Tskin.If does care for his poor people then why is is having over a billion US Dollars abroad ?
Why did he spend over 300 Million in UK alone on a foot ball club? People who love their country and their people wouldn't dream of doing what he is doing.
Try and remember that the conniving politicians will use any reason or any cause to hold power long enough to rob their country,it's resources and ultimately it's people.
Have you been to Thailand? Go and see what he did to that country where the village folks instead of sending their children to school have send them to brothels in the south,being exploited by the tourists.It is a such a menace Thai police couldn't handle it and now they have an effective few squads of Sudda police that are merciless thus keeping the lid in an unimaginable orgy thus created by those leaders.These tyrants will always will have the supporters in likes of red shirts.These supporters are brothel workers,owners,ass kickers of the tyrants that our exploiting the second highest economy after Japan.Do you know that they had Statues of Buddha in night clubs where the statue was putting up the puffs of weed? It was awful even for suddas to see a religion be so abused and of these cops who visited Thailand for decent holidays stayed back to root out this evil and they now show zero tolerance and if found guilty of possession of controlled drugs,just a tablet would put a person in prison for decades and a sizable group of suddas are now lingering in their prisons.Of cause the likes of BBC and CH 4 are bleeding their hearts for them.then who cares for their sensationalized news outputs as people have better things to do than spend their time in front of TVs. If you want more about this as KP as he was frequenting these places there and he was trapped in a similar brothel area named Chow Kit in Malaysia.

Sam Perera said...

Patriots,

While I share many of your sentiments about imperial masters and their presumed burden to save the world,we have to make sure that we avoid using extra wide brushes to paint societies. I believe that we need to focus on the matters most significant to us, terrorism, and how these social cancers try to manipulate good will of the west with blatant lies, donations, and bribes.

Bless Armed Forces of Sri Lanka!
Bless People of Sri Lanka!
Bless Sri Lanka!!!

kevin said...

Pol
Before I break off for the usual Saturday break I must say that Kevin and I support CH4 and the founders of this great TV Chanel
We are glad the licence was specially given so that CH4 to propagate the interests of the minorities.As we remember it was a dangerous place to walk about and live in 60s.Founder was a great man named Jeromy Isaacs,perhaps a Jewish person whose family had a sad history in Europe.

Their first studios were near our telecoms complex near Warren St where we as junior engineers provided the all important audio and video links as a major project.We had the privilege to meet Sir Isaacs and specially now the senior anchorman Jon Snow and Zinab Badawi(now in BBC external service).They are truly great individuals.What ever Jon asked on that program is not his own but of his organization.One must remember that he is working for his salary and due to sensitivities of our feelings he was mild on that program.He ridiculed the whole thing by asking a stupid question of a reporter being held for a long time without actually naming him.I must say it was deliberate as we all know that SL has a right to defend her self against a band of terrorists that have murdered democratically elected heads of the two countries,scores of uniformed offices,civilians,not forgetting a reporter or two, etc,etc.No one in the right mind will support these evil,not even Miliband.
As news medias they live on these sensations if it is abroad or in their own countries.They mainly open a debate on any one topic and it's up to the people and authorities either to counter it or defend it.There are liable laws that one can take if it is found that a news media deliberately distorting facts.
Now CH 4 has moved very close to my home and business,perhaps we would be able to give our version in time to come when we meet them at the local water hole.
Every one knows that there will be collateral damage and the terrorists will use whatever means to damage the enemy(gosl) by fighting and hiding in churches,hospitals and schools.
We should take this lightly without abusing people generally,just because they are in Europe or read the news.
It's up to us to put our own house and country in order without looking for scapegoats,which we had been doing since the Independence.It is Saturday must go as there's life out there.

Anonymous said...

Can’t say anything against anyone because it might “offend them”, but they can say anything against us because they are being “misled” haha.

Such mentality is appalling. And using tags like “that is tamil eelamist” to silence arguments is just saddening, that in itself is “tamil eelamist” no?

I use the word Tamilia to describe Tamils in the die-ass-pora, I am offending all tamils? (well possibly haha).

I use para suddha to describe the ugly nature of the suddhas who actively work against us and their machinations.

You think either of these two groups are “offended” by such “language”? They have thicker skin than those of you weeping hard for them.

It’s the world we live in.
Comically when people offend and insult us, Sinhala Buddhists specifically, a lot of the time, what do we do? Fight back? No. We kiss their hands and make excuses for them, going to appalling depths.

I am stunned by some things Moshe said (e.g. “they banned LTTE”, and this ban has shaken heaven and earth obviously. Or my preferred one “China gave weapons directly to LTTE, but suddha did not give the money directly to buy them” –what happened to the ban then? Such liberties with the truth).

And not all white people are the same as in a homogenous group.

You have Germanic/Nordic, Nordic, Anglo-Saxon, “Southern European” and Slavic
and they too have their own divisions.
Now go tell an average South American looking white that he is a white, he will be insulted (but go say it to a Pilipino and he will love it Hikz).

When I say suddha you know who is being referred to: specifically those assaulting and insulting us and who we have a history with, such as putting a gun at our throats while they burnt our nations fabric and today doing it by proxy. They also think it’s their right to voice what they think and pass judgement when no one bloody asked for it.

It is like saying Colombians, do we mean all those living in Colombo? No we mean the elitist loser clique. Tamilia always insult and attack Sinhalese, but who are they targeting? They love Colombians, SundayLeader and LankaENews editors though.

But I should stop saying anything bad against suddha otherwise that is “being Tamil eelamist”. We should take our place third to everyone else.

By the way I see no reason why I should be “grateful” to suddha. They have done more damage to us than anyone else, including Tamilia. All the so called “good” which Moshe and others try to sell was not done to help us but to help themselves and packaged through their propaganda (yes this was live and active 400 years ago, our Kings used to say “we will not bow to you no matter what your ‘writings’ –propaganda- have to say, our people will not be fooled”) as “helping little brown man”, also known as “white mans burden”. It is this brainwashing they used to con us, rob us, make us incapable of doing things ourselves (their so called “laws” banning us from doing anything ourselves without their “approval) and turn us into subservient slaves forever dependent on them. Whats appalling are those who still hold onto this backward self-defeating belief system.

What I find the most puzzling and I notice this a lot when speaking to Sinhalese, is when I insult suddha calling them “para-suddha”, or when there are discussion of their savagery and crimes, there are non-suddhas who come running to defend them, wtf? I do not see suddha doing that for us? You should see the way suddha is “liberal with the truth” when he demonises and exposes his views not matter how warped on Muslims be they Arab, Persian, South Asian or from South East Asia.

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Anonymous said...

Suddha maybe powerful and we cannot fight them openly (the way some Arab and South American countries have tried, I do give them credit for having guts) but it does not mean we must worship suddha.

Nor does it mean we take everything lying down, hence why we must hit back with this “war crimes” bs through our own media, foreign media and what other platforms we can get our hands on (UN is one).

Tamilia is not alone behind this war crimes crap, it is suddha (yes Tamilia wants revenge but suddha is the one ALLOWING them to get it). Tamilia just provides the “pictures” and details, and “witness accounts”. If suddha wanted he could ignore this crap but in “taming SL” Tamilia is useful, as is “controlling SL” Tamilia was useful (with regards to the LTTE). This war crimes bs is heading somewhere and that is economic sanctions if SL does not play ball and give Tamilia their separate state in all but name --> re-create LTTE type situation --> can control SL like they did when LTTE was up and about.

Obviously recolonisation is the only answer to save our future and keep Tamilia and suddha out of SL for the most part. (They will of course resort to plan B, e.g. Ranilam/Gonseka when plan A –Tamilia, fails them).

So who is our enemy? BOTH. We should not loose sight of this fact, or the nature of the forked tongued devils with silly ideas that “Tamilia is misleading suddha”. You really think a bunch of stateless rats are “misleading” the worlds super powers? What makes suddha worse is that they play “neutral” and “both sides” and love seeing little brown people everywhere doing cartwheels to “win them over” (ego rubbing) and simply plain begging them. It is a crude power display.

The world is a cruel and harsh place. We need to survive. If suddha gives us something consider it REPARATIONS for the gigantic damage they have done to us. In light of history, we owe them NOTHING. You can call this “Tamil eelamist” all you want, but if “mighty” suddha was fighting Tamilia, they would have dropped nuclear weapons on them 20 years ago and they would never feed or give healthcare to such an enemy (worse still when enemy combatants are liberally using these services). They would have killed all those in the human shield rather than sacrifice their own soldiers; especially with what is a “hostile” population. This nonsense of human rights would never surface if they were engaged in a war identical to ours. And you should see the manner in which they committed war crimes in Vietnam. Destroying irrigation cancels and sources of food, all man made structures and tools that enable them –the NV- to “wage war”.

But complain to us about “reducing food supplies” and “bombing civilians” when they commit far worse atrocities in their wars. Part of the destruction you witness in Iraq with the so called sectarian violence was in fact engineered by them to “break the will of the resistance” by having Iraqis kill each other and in the process destroy their own infrastructure making their lives ever more miserable. But they lecture us, such ugly hypocrisy.

Is Western media bothered? No. Why? Because the white audiences do not like hearing “bad things” about themselves. You only see them represented in a positive light. That is good for them if they did not bark about being “free and fair” and “give all sides”. But they lecture us, such ugly hypocrisy.

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Anonymous said...

Kevin/Kevins friend or whoever you are,

“Go and see what he did to that country where the village folks instead of sending their children to school have send them to brothels in the south,being exploited by the tourists.It is a such a menace Thai police couldn't handle it and now they have an effective few squads of Sudda police that are merciless thus keeping the lid in an unimaginable orgy thus created by those leaders.These tyrants will always will have the supporters in likes of red shirts.These supporters are brothel workers,owners,ass kickers of the tyrants that our exploiting the second highest economy after Japan.”

Like I said Thaksin is not perfect but this is just absolute crap.

It is no different to accusations that as soon as Rajapakse came to power he took way democracy, free media and human rights and brought in all the sensationalised rubbish you see reported in Western media of people “living in fear” and “there is a state of terror”. And that prior to Rapajakse the country was a true paradise where nothing went wrong.

We all know how things were in the country before Rajapakse and that it was not really different to it now (with regards to democracy, human rights and free media) the only exception being the LTTE is GONE and loser clique of “elites” are out of power with this “godaya” running the country and they will do anything to get back power where all their accusations against Rajapakse can be attributed to them x1000. Add to that how if his development projects are successful, economic power will shift out of Colombo and to the masses of the country.

You must have lost your head to squarely put all of Thialands decades long ills flatly at the feet of Thaksin (I think that is confirmed in your next post, shall be covering that). The situation in Thailand you have described existed long before Thaksin. When he came to power he was given a mandate by the victims of what you have described and the general rural poor to fix the massive disparity in wealth, provide basic services like healthcare and address their grievances, and he started to do it. It was the Colombians of Thailand who enabled the situation you have described to occur when they made the “economic miracle” which involved the gross under powering of the masses and wealth stuffed in the hands of the few. Linked to their power base and money generation were shoddy deals with drug dealers and gangs who work hand in glove with the Colombians of Thailand. Thaksin started killing these groups and that is what caused an uproar in the Colombians of Thailand to get rid of him as those gangs were their business partners. It is similar to how for SLs Colombians Rajapakse “had to go” when he started getting rid of the LTTE. Sadly for them the Military in SL is firmly in control of the Government in power, which is why they were on edge waiting and cheering for LTTE victories (e.g. when Anuradapura air base was attacked in November 2007 they threw a party for at last the LTTE had “hit back” and proved to be a “force to reckon with”).

Add to all this was Thaksin “considering” the Kra Canal with China (which is what got the West on board for getting rid of him).


By the way a lot of paedophiles operating in Sri Lanka and Thailand are British.

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Anonymous said...

“He ridiculed the whole thing by asking a stupid question of a reporter being held for a long time without actually naming him.”

I have read some funny things before but nothing beats this. So he did this to humiliate himself/his channel? That is the most pathetic thing I have read as an excuse for one mans/institutions racist bias. Snow is a closet anti-Sinhala racist and I have seen it plenty of times in fact for decades, and considering he is one of the honchos at Channel 4 do not tell me he is just “following editorial policy” plus if he’s such a great guy he could just as easily resign in outrage for having to “compromise” his morals. His bias in favour of Tamils oozes out.

Why did he not let Kohana speak, to “debunk” the other lies he was “forced” to say? Why interrupt him and behave so unprofessionally? It is not the first time he’s done it. I remember how he spoke with such venom to Prof. Rajiva on the phone.

Whats stands out is that he never does the same to Tamilia when they appear on the programme. Even talking to KP, bloody hell, that was like trying to hug a crying child.


Back in 1994 or 1995 (I believe it was more likely 1995 as knowing Channel 4 they probably timed it for a victory SL has had, in which case that would be the capture of Jaffna) they ran a DISGUSTING story about Sinhalese raping Tamils as a cultural practise.

It started off with an opening “here are Tamil women playing” (some LTTE bitches) and soft music then slowly turns into ugly/evil music setting the atmosphere of fear and hate to describe how these “innocent things” become suicide bombers. The message was simply of “getting vengeance” for rape and Sinhalese stealing their innocence. They always demonise Sinhalese and humanise the worst of the worst.
Another programme white washed the massacres against Sinhalese (like Kent and Dollar) as one Sinhalese deserved because we forced Tamils do to it and the massacres were A) “not that bad” and B) “innocent when compared to what we ‘do’ to Tamils”.

Channel 4 has nothing good to say about us. What I do not understand with people making excuses for others all the time?

What you saw “over the journalists name” was Snow being CAUGHT out. What is more humorous than that is your attempt to twist that around to a ridiculous “he was trying to help SL” out and Snow/Channel 4/suddha is on or side type of logic, when everything points in the opposite direction.



“We should take this lightly”

Of course, accusing us of crimes against humanity is light fun. I will not let your damn Channel 4 or anyone else insult and spit on our soldiers.

“without abusing people generally,just because they are in Europe or read the news”.

Absolutely we can’t upset or insult suddha! They might get hurt! But they can liberally hurl as much abuse against us (because they are being “misled” LOL)

“It's up to us to put our own house and country in order without looking for scapegoats,which we had been doing since the Independence”

Yeah and how do you suggest we put our house in order when para suddha is interfering trying to prevent us from doing so, including defaming us, and attacking us because we do this exact thing?

How about suddha just gets lost?
You insult and lectures everyone else, try and make us bow our heads to you and expect us to sit around and take it?

“It is Saturday must go as there's life out there.”

Hikz.

kevin said...

Pol
You truly sound a very bitter man,perhaps a fan of Pol Pot?
He too didn't believe in democracy and freedom,killed many,specially the people who could think and write.
you just wrote..
Thaksin started killing these groups and that is what caused an uproar in the Colombians of Thailand to get rid of him as those gangs were their business partners.

So you like such people to be our leaders,kill anyone you don't agree with?
You say that the Western world was upset with this crook for dealing with China,then why on earth has he not exiled in China but in UK?
For your information it's the west that has the biggest investments in China and China in turn have similar investments in USA etc.In West we believe'what is good for the goose is good fot the gander'So West has no problems with anyone doing bussiness with China.I too is doing bussiness with them,cutting deals etc and I have never been stopped by the West so don't peddle lies,You hear?
You said that he was ousted by undemocratic elections.That's what they all say when they lost.Even in SL we had to tell the right people concerned that the elections were properly conducted with the minimum of malpractice and MR and his party was duly elected.
Power of any country is in the hands of the so called Columbians if you like it or not and only the people like pol pot disagreed with a terrible consequence to their innocent people.
If taskin wants to come back rob more then he must seek elections but not the way he is trying get back using the village folks.If we allow that in SL then there are many such folks waiting on the sides to get to the streets.We the colubians or any freedom loving people will never allow a democratic elected government to be harassed or over thrown.Then we will too use the CH4 to fight for our cause.
If you know if there are pedophiles in Lanka then get the cops on them and I am with you there,but don't preach hatred in any form.Anything against me having a good time on Saturdays,you trying to ban that.You are dangerous.... Let me have my drink to it..

Ananda-USA said...

My post at the Globe and Mail:

.......

"SLPAC", who has commandeered our think tank acronym in order to undermine it, said ..

"My question to you is, do you think Sri Lankan government behaving like this 'mafia-like' organization you talk about as well?

Should the responsibility of a think tank be critical of both sides? Otherwise your views will be seen as government propaganda."

..............

The Eelamists have their own multiple think tanks, and we can see imagine what their "unbiased" policies are! LoL!

Our own policies are very clear to us: The policies we formulate and advance are to promote the best interests of ALL CITIZENS OF SRI LANKA irrespective of Community.

It so happens that at this point in time the Government of Sri Lanka under the leadership of President Mahinda Rajapaksa has acted, is acting, and proposes to act in the future, in the BEST INTERESTS of Sri Lanka and all of its people.

However, in SLPAC, our mission is not to support any particular set of political leaders, but to develop and support POLICIES that will lead to a secure and prosperous future for ALL of Sri Lanka's people, irrespective of Community.

Broadly, our POLICIES are encapsulated by the vision of ONE INDIVISIBLE NATION, of ONE INDIVISIBLE PEOPLE, sharing ONE common DESTINY. Of ONE vote for each citizen, of EQUAL RIGHTS guaranteed under the rule of ONE system of fair and just law applicable impartially to all, and EQUAL RESPONSIBILITIES for each citizen to Love, Protect, and Foster this Resplendent Land we proudly call HOME!

To that end, we are completely opposed to any and all forms of devolution of power to regions on the basis of ethnicity, of language, and of religions, as a flawed concept fundamentally inimical to preserving peace and tranquility in Sri Lanka. In particular, we reject the creation of any and all forms of mono-ethnic aparthied Bantustans in any part of Sri Lanka.

Does that please you, my friend, or does it painfully gnaw at your Eelamist sensibilities?

Sam Perera said...

Pol,

It is similar to how for SLs Colombians Rajapakse “had to go” when he started getting rid of the LTTE. Sadly for them the Military in SL is firmly in control of the Government in power, which is why they were on edge waiting and cheering for LTTE victories (e.g. when Anuradapura air base was attacked in November 2007 they threw a party for at last the LTTE had “hit back” and proved to be a “force to reckon with”).

Can you please elaborate this particular party. I appreciate if you can give me link to follow-up. Hopefully, I may not have to add a few more lines to Top Scum of Sri Lanka list.

Ananda-USA said...

Another post by me at the Globe and Mail:

...........

An Eelamist said ... "only history sinhales have in sri lanka is live off the hard work of tamils."

This statement completely exposes the racist underpinnings of the Eelamist movement: a strange sense of undeserved entitlement the Eelamists nurse within the innermost recesses of their minds, giving birth to and promoting an estimate of themselves as a "Superior Highly Intelligent Hardworking People" entitled by birth to special rights in Sri Lanka unavailable to other citizens.

Nothing could be further from the TRUTH than this highly immodest characterization. Tamils are no different from any other community of Sri Lanka. After six decades of sovereign existence, Sri Lanka has eradicated the social inequities created by a Colonial British Administration that viewed the rebellious majority Sinhala people as the greatest threat to their control of the country.

By 1948, discrimination over 150 years had translated into a largely disenfranchised, disadvantaged, and less well educated Sinhala population. So, those who benefited mightily during the colonial period, turn around and say Sinhala people are "modayas", "we are the most highly skilled and hardworking community" of Sri Lanka, and therefore, "we deserve special rights, and a separate existence to preserve those very advantages."

In sovereign Lanka we reject such inequities. Since independence, Sri Lanka's policies have yielded a literacy rate of 95%, a system of labor laws that are a model for developing countries, universal healthcare, affordable electricity and public transport extending to rural areas, and a growing light industrial economy replacing the colonial plantation economy. Sri Lanka is now poised, after ending the Eelam war that hung like a millstone around its national neck, to enjoy a GOLDEN NEW AGE of unprecedented security and prosperity.

Sinhala people are no longer a suppressed disadvantaged majority; ALL citizens of Sri Lanka now enjoy its benefits EQUALLY!

JAYAWEWA, Sri Lanka!

mithra said...

Pol,

Aurudu 500 keta issara, suddan gaena apae minussu kiiva kathava hamedaatema valangui:

Mun thiruvana gal kathi, lae bothi.

Pol, suddan bohoome avasanavantha minissun kottasayak. Uun aurudden maasa 8 k me siithelae thamai jeevath vaenne. Iru rasmiyak nae, hariyata husmak ganne nae, gaeval/club valin pita jiivithayak nae.

Aee nisai mun anunta ayath daeval balen allegaena, anungen horakam karagath thaakshana bhavitha karala ( China: gun powder, First gun: India) lokayema yatekeragena inne hadanne.

Apita, hame deyakme thiyanava, ayi apita baeri munta muhune denna, yuddemaya vaseyen unath?

We have to be tactful, we are just getting up from our knees. We must learn how to use even Colombian to our advantage. Their greed and empty values can be useful to us.

I fully understand you ... 30 long years of insult, injury & death. Sirimavo was punished together with our people for nationalising just the petrol distribution... JR was the cat’s paw….

Also, we have to study why Buddhist India vanished under mono theist onslaught.

I wish you could study the relevance of Anathma concept in smoothening social interactions among Sri Lankans, and giving right place to Buddhi since we all are children of Buddha, the one who acquired the supreme intelligence.

Anathma says that nothing exist by itself. Every thing depends on everything. Specially as islanders, we are very much dependent on each other. There must be no jealousy, no show offs, no back stabbings ... but real achievement for the well being of all.

We know how to deal with Cholas & Co. We always had solid alliances with others in India. But sudda stuff is a real virus. Let us use it to stimulate our immune system.

And, the red Indians died in millions because they were never exposed to Spanish common cold!!!!

This said, we must all participate, including Kvine & Moshe, in neutralising anti-SL propaganda.

As a country which can earn billions with tourism etc, Kevin & Mose are also going to suffer if the image of Sri Lanka & its products are not protected.

No_MESS said...

Kevin,
Unless you were planning an all night Pub crawl, the chances of you meeting Jon Snow, KRISHNAN GURU-MURTHY or JONATHAN MILLER near your home / CH 4 building are very slim!

CH 4 is based at Horseferry Road, London SW1. Jon and co work at ITN, which is based in Gray's Inn Road, London WC1.

Channel 4 News, is produced by ITN for Channel 4.


You are better off buying this guy a pint. Jim Gray - Editor, Channel 4 News.

Sam Perera said...

Patriots,

I was wondering for while about ICG. The most familiar face of ICG is Louise Arbour from Canada. Daya Gamage in Asian Tribune exposes another man called Stephen J. Solarz from USA. The general rule of thumb is that these groups cough for money. Hoever, in the case of ICG, the LTTE/WTF/TGTE money trail is not clear. Is there any patriot who can enlighten us about the terrorist money flow into ICG?

Anonymous said...

This guy Kevin is really a piece of work.

Thaksin started a war on drug dealers and even human smugglers (sex slave trade, children for peadophiles etc). And I made it clear it was these "groups" he was killing. These drug dealers were involved in crooked deals with Thailands Colombians. Do you get it now?

Killing them is no different to MR bumping off members of the Colombo underworld (well for that short period where did that).

It has nothing to do with "kill anyone you don't agree with?"

He didn't go around killing political opponents and politicians.
You are just spouting propaganda.
Like I said Thaksin was not great but he’s not the great murderer or criminal you make him out to be. I guess other people like YOU in the West must also believe MR is a “genocider of Tamils” and SL did “war crimes”.


” You said that he was ousted by undemocratic elections.That's what they all say when they lost”

What the hell are you on about?
I said he was ousted undemocratically. You know, by a Military coup.
He did not lose in an election; he was tossed out by a bunch of losers who were.

”Power of any country is in the hands of the so called Columbians if you like it or not and only the people like pol pot disagreed with a terrible consequence to their innocent people.”

Well I do not like it and neither do Thailands masses and they voiced their dissatisfaction more than once through the ballet and public demonstration.

But those Colombians have a problem with that so they go around doing coups, spreading propaganda and beating up protestors justifying their actions through their earlier propaganda. They do the same in Sri Lanka calling MR “dictator” and “crushing freedom” when he’s done no such thing.

Pol Pot did not like any educated person, I do not see how he is relevant in this? Did Thaksin go around killing educated people throughout Thaliand? Did he “genocide” Thailands Colombians? By the looks of it he didn’t.

”If taskin wants to come back rob more then he must seek elections but not the way he is trying get back using the village folks.”

He was ousted undemocratically. He got support/came to power from rural poors vote because he gave them promises, carried out some of them etc. If everything is so great in Thailand why does the rural poor/poor masses even exist, should they not be “poor”? Why Thaksin manage to get their vote? Why Thailands Colombians fail them to lose their support?

If Thaksin comes to power because he gives promises to poor again, what is wrong with that? That not democracy?
Why won’t YOU allow it? Why can’t you give promises to poor as well? Or is it that poor not believe your bs after being exploited by you?

You are essentially advocating the denying the poor their rights and democratic franchise because you think they are making “wrong decision” and only you know whats best for them, when you clearly don’t.

Anonymous said...

”If we allow that in SL then there are many such folks waiting on the sides to get to the streets.”

Who are you to “allow” or “not allow” what happens? What you see in SL is the rural masses who have already voiced their opinion and are happy with their choice (hence why likes of JVP lose support in south).


”We the colubians or any freedom loving people will never allow a democratic elected government to be harassed or over thrown.Then we will too use the CH4 to fight for our cause.”


“We love freedom so we MUST hold power” Hikz.
Also if what you say above is true why Colombians in Thailand get rid of Thaksin? He was democratically elected.
Why allow SL to be harassed because it fights LTTE and does not bow to West?

How come you are not using Channel 4 to fight for SL?


If you know if there are pedophiles in Lanka then get the cops on them and I am with you there,but don't preach hatred in any form.

Where am I preaching hatred? I say some truths about suddha and I am now preaching hatred? Oops!

”Anything against me having a good time on Saturdays,you trying to ban that.You are dangerous.... Let me have my drink to it..”

I am doing what now? Did I ruin your Saturday because I insulted suddha? Haha
I bet you got pissed when I pointed out most paedophiles in SL are British. Perfect suddha not so perfect eh?

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Anonymous said...

Mithra,

You are very correct about suddha and his nature.
I find it odd so many have such romanticised views with regards to them.

And i agree with you that we are only now finding our feet, but we already have suddha trying to crush us before we even get up.

This war crimes bs is going somewhere and that is economic sanctions.

I cannot stand the defamation we are getting, what makes it worse is we do not have a equal platform to counter them. Look at the articles produced (at other times as well) which humiliates and exposes suddha from the Island, LankaWeb, SundayObserver, and AsianTribune. Will they get an equal weighting and distribution in world media? No.

I have hammered out to death already why it is not Tamilia who is the conductor and suddha is some unwitting passenger, rather it is the other way round (with a willing passenger of course).

Mithra,
Moshe is a great patriot and I have deep respect for him. Despite our disagreements that will not change.

Kevin/kevins friend/whoever he is, is another story. Real piece of work.
There are some infamous posts of his which I can never forget, if you have seen those you will be stunned beyond belief.

Anonymous said...

MD

good suddas are not suddas and bad ones (by SL interests) are suddas!!!

this is tamilnet logic. when getting benefits, that's their right. when have to pay for them, that's chingala chauvinism.

when we want to attack, we call it sudda. so that should mean TEs are also suddas????



Exactly! This is what I meant. You may disagree but I am glad you got it.

In other words, we were talking about enemies of SL and we used the word 'suddas' to refer all of them collectively - despite sudda has other meanings. Now if we don't like the word we can find a new word.

Pre-May 19 era all enemies of SL were called tigers. So RW, Wikramabahu, Milibanda, NGO kukkas were all tigers. But now locally dead tiger enemy will not wake up sleep loving lions.

Anonymous said...

MD

You may not agree again but let me say what I believe. OK In SL two groups are fighting - SInhalas and Tamils. Now what sudda did? Did he say "Please don't fight, fighting is bad, anyway if you guys wanna fight then fight, I an out of this, I take no sides"?? NO.

Sudda managed it. India too tried but finaly Sudda became general manager and India a regional manager. When we said this HR talking smiling gentleman sudda is behind all this no one believed us. Tigers was the only enemy. OK We eliminated tigers in SL but di-ass-pora wing remains intact. What big difference we see in di-ass-pora before and after May 18 specially via western media?

Without suddas these di-ass-pora peelamists can do almost nothing.. even with their money and votes.

I spend time on this becuz Identifying your real enemy is the most important thing.

Ananda-USA said...

Guess what? "SLPAC" =multipolar!

.........

"SLPAC" said ..

"Sam Perera and Ananda-USA are buddies running web sites praising each and every actions of Sri Lankan government hoping to earn a diplomatic position. The self proclaimed patriotism is tied to personal gain."

Personal Gain? NOTHING could be further from the TRUTH! My career, and my life, are at a point where I have, by the Blessings of the Holy Triple Gem, moved beyond such needs.

Sam, a much younger SL patriot than I, also has no such pecuniary needs to flog in public. Our patriotic websites are TEAM efforts between large numbers of Sri Lankan Patriots who volunteer their mind, body, and resources to help Sri Lanka survive.

We are driven solely by a sense of patriotism to help the Resplendent Land that gave us the immeasurable gift of life.

UNTRUE accusations levelled by frustrated terrorists and blog disrupters of any kind WILL NOT DIVERT US in working towards that goal.

Anonymous said...

Sam,

"Can you please elaborate this particular party. I appreciate if you can give me link to follow-up. Hopefully, I may not have to add a few more lines to Top Scum of Sri Lanka list."


This did not happen with some politicians etc, it happen in a Colombo office. Attack happened earlier in the morning and when these monkeys came to work they were over the moon. A friend of mine was working at this place and told me what happened plus the “little bash” they organised

Anonymous said...

SP

Believe it or not what PS said is true in general for almost all UNP and other 'peace lovers' (LEN type), Blake and his INGO kukkas.. not just for one office. They all were expecting unceasing wave type attack from LTTE or KAB type one. Its not just the di-ass-pora loved and expected movie from LTTE.

Ananda-USA

From where above post..??

BTW, I haven't seen a sicko other than multipolar who come and post from same ID after 100s of posts were deleted from same ID. HIKz

Ananda-USA said...

Ninja,

The post is at the Globe and Mail article

Anonymous said...

Ananda-USA/ SP

Please see SLPAC for a comment.

Anonymous said...

http://www.divaina.com/2010/05/23/defence.html

Ananda-USA said...

OMG,

TNA admits

1. GOSL has been feeding Tamils in the North East and refugee camps ALL ALONG?

2. The IDPs are not held FORCIBLY in CONCENTRATION CAMPS?

It is a reasonable request that I support, but it is interesting see how the TNA SONG changes from "Accusations" to "Pleadings" whenever they can get something for FREE! LoL!

Typical Eelamist behavior!


.............
Sri Lanka's Tamil alliance asks the government to continue food rations for the Northern IDPs

ColomboPage News Desk, Sri Lanka.

May 22, Colombo: Sri Lanka's Tamil National Alliance (TNA) has called on the government to extend the validity of ration cards issued to the internally displaced persons (IDPs) living in welfare camps in Vavuniya.

The TNA had made this request since there are widows and disabled people among the IDPs in the Northern camps.

The request follows a visit by several TNA parliamentarians led by its parliamentary group leader R. Sampanthan to the camps in Vavuniya yesterday (21).

TNA Wanni District parliamentarian Selvam Adikalanathan has noted that the government had announced its decision to stop the food rationing for the IDPs from next month, while the people living in these camps were facing so many problems.

Adikalanathan has further observed that the people did not have houses to live in or a livelihood and has therefore requested the government to continue with the food rationing.

Ananda-USA said...

My Comment at the Economist:

Ananda-Sinha wrote:
May 23rd 2010 4:52 GMT

Is it not HILARIOUS that one of the "unsavory" nations that beat a path to Sri Lanka's door, and requested training for their troops is ... you guessed it .. The United States of America!

Perhaps all countries of the world beset by unremitting terrorism have something to Learn from Sri Lanka, instead of continually issuing Holier-Than-Thou condemnations of almost the ONLY DEMOCRACY that has decisively eradicated a monstrous terrorist movement .. largely through ITS OWN EFFORTS!

Or, does that pique and annoy the powerful nations of the world, mired in unending wars with global terrorist networks?

Disce' aut Discede'!

Ananda-USA said...

“The Sri Lanka option”

Friends like these
The rush to learn lessons from the obliteration of the Tamil Tigers

The Economist
May 20th 2010

LITTLE Sri Lanka is rarely a model of anything. But since it crushed the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam its government has found itself in an unfamiliar position. Some of the world’s less savoury regimes are beating a path to its door to study “the Sri Lanka option”.

Last November, Myanmar’s military dictator, Than Shwe, who rarely travels abroad, visited the island “so that his regime can apply any lessons learned to its efforts against the ethnic groups in Burma,” says Benedict Rogers, a biographer of General Than. In May last year at a meeting of regional defence ministers in Singapore, Myanmar’s deputy minister made the link explicit, saying the world had witnessed a victory over terrorism in Sri Lanka but had forgotten about the insurgency in his country.

In October Thailand’s prime minister, Abhisit Vejjajiva, held talks with his Sri Lankan counterpart about the lessons of the Tigers’ defeat (for handling a Muslim insurgency in southern Thailand, not the protests cleared this week in Bangkok). In March a military delegation from Bangladesh met Sri Lanka’s army chief, to swap notes on what he called Sri Lanka’s “successful completion of the war for peace”. Behind the scenes, hawkish generals and politicians from Colombia to Israel seem to be using Sri Lanka’s experience to justify harsher anti-terror operations.

Louise Arbour, head of the International Crisis Group (ICG), says the Sri Lanka model consists of three parts: what she dubs “scorched-earth tactics” (full operational freedom for the army, no negotiations with terrorists, no ceasefires to let them regroup); next, ignoring differences between combatants and non-combatants (the new ICG report documents many such examples); lastly, the dismissal of international and media concerns. A senior official in President Mahinda Rajapaksa’s office, quoted anonymously in a journal, Indian Defence Review, says “we had to ensure that we regulated the media. We didn’t want the international community to force peace negotiations on us.” The author of that article, V.K. Shashikumar, concludes that “in the final analysis the Rajapaksa model is based on a military precept…Terrorism has to be wiped out militarily and cannot be tackled politically.” This is the opposite of the strategy America is pursuing in Afghanistan. It is winning a widespread hearing.

Anonymous said...

This comment speaks for itself:

namas wrote: May 22nd 2010 5:15 GMT
Remember that Myanmar, Thailand, and Sri Lanka are all countries of Thervada Buddhism.

Ananda-USA said...

My second post at the Economist:

Ananda-Sinha wrote:
May 23rd 2010 5:21 GMT

Minas Tirith said ...

"For the first time in living memory – arguably in the history of independent Sri Lanka – an overwhelming majority of Sinhalese support a credible devolution of powers."

Au Contraire! This is a myth being propagated by one segment of the Eelamists to snatch victory from abject defeat!

No patriotic Sri Lankan wishes to see power devolved to ANY GROUP on the basis of communal attributes like ethnicity, language and religion. NO WAY! That flawed concept was at the root of all of the agony that Sri Lanka suffered over the years; we must not resurrect it!

Instead, we should be creating and consolidating a multicultural society based upon the viable vision of ONE Undivided NATION, of ONE Undivided PEOPLE, sharing ONE Common DESTINY for all time.

A vision based upon EQUAL RIGHTS for all citizens under ONE System of just and fair laws, universal franchise with ONE vote for every adult citizen, and EQUAL RESPONSIBILITY to Love, Protect and Foster the Prosperity of our Resplendent Land that we proudly call HOME!

Let us not set up a framework for the emergence of mono-ethnic aparthied Bantustans AGAIN in Sri Lanka on the basis of communal attributes.

That is no way to PERMANENTLY assure peace and tranquility in Sri Lanka for ALL TIME! This FOOLISHNESS must end HERE and NOW!

Ananda-USA said...

My third post the Economist:

.............
Rarely have I seen a more biased interpretation of facts than the following statement by "Dr. C P T":

"Not a single Tamil civilian was allowed to remain in their houses in Vanni when the Sinhala army scorched through it during the raid. The whole of vanni was emptied and the population was taken to concentration camps in Vavuniya."

It was not the Sri Lankan Army that "prevented Tamil civilians to remain intheir houses", but the LTTE that drove the Tamil population ahead of them to their rear areas as they retreated!

They did this for several reasons:

1. They were short of fighters .. they knew they needed this captive population to fill they fast depleting ranks.

2. They needed all the aid .. food and other essential .. that continued to be supplied by the Govt of Sri Lanka and NGOs .. to sustain themselves

3. They needed them as human hostages to form the human shield that they hoped the Eelamist Tamil Diaspora would translate into a rescue operation for the Sun God and his monstrous crew.

Well, the best laid plans of these mice and men .. all went astray .. because the Sri Lankan Government (GOSL) and Armed Forces (SLDF) heeded the plaintive cry of the long suffering Sri Lankan people. They said "we are willing to pay the price in the blood of our sons and daughters fighting at the front .. but PUT AN END TO THIS MENACE!"

The GOSL and the SLDF did just that .. in spades .. after 30 years of interminable "negotiations" with a monstrous cult had only yielded a strengthened enemy that threatened to disintegrate the nation, had killed over 100,000 people, and arrested the development of Sri Lanka by three decades .. even as the rest of the world raced forward in a highly competitive world.

We are not amused by these unbelievable blatant lies and LTTE propaganda broadcast over international media. We will not be swayed from the goal of resuming our march towards our Promised Land of a fair and just multicultural society in Sri Lanka, founded on the vision of ONE Undivided NATION, of ONE Undivided PEOPLE sharing ONE Undivided DESTINY!

JAYAWEWA, Sri Lanka!

Thusitha said...

It Has Been a Year Since You Stopped Crying, Mother

In case you guys miss this, there is a great post by Tamilnet.Tv for the V-Day. As always cudos to the guys who are maintaining that website.

Thusitha said...

kevin said...
Pol
You truly sound a very bitter man,perhaps a fan of Pol Pot?

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Kevin,
This is an incorrect statement (unless of course you are a multipolar disguised as kevin)

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If taskin wants to come back rob more then he must seek elections but not the way he is trying get back using the village folks.If we allow that in SL then there are many such folks waiting on the sides to get to the streets.We the colubians or any freedom loving people will never allow a democratic elected government to be harassed or over thrown.Then we will too use the CH4 to fight for our cause

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Pol,
I am not sure how much Thai politics you are following, but even if Thaksin is right, he should not be trying to over throw the government this way. The tactics of Red shirts reminds me of Communists. There would be serious disruption if they overthrow the government this way. So condoning these types or people is not that good.

Ananda-USA said...

Patriots,

The lumbering supertanker of western criticism of Sri Lanka is slowly, but surely, coming to halt .. as can be seen from this article.

I have no doubt it will not only come to a halt, but will reverse in time, and uphold Sri Lanka's struggle against terrorism as another heroic Battle of Britain against ALL ODDS.

Furthemore, the notion that legally elected governments in the developing world, facing threats to the survival of their nations and the lives of their citizens, have an INALIENABLE RIGHT, nay a DUTY, to fight for it with all their might, will be accepted as no less valid a claim than the right Western Nations exercised against the Axis Powers in World War II.

They will come to abandon their colonial attitudes, and recognize not only our right to secure our place under the sun, but also that such nations have an ability and wisdom to decide such things for themselves, that transcends the self-serving advice of the former colonialists.

Jayawewa, Sri Lanka!


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How Beijing won Sri Lanka's civil war

A year after the 27-year Tamil insurgency was brought to a decisive end, Peter Popham looks at how China triumphed where the West failed

Sunday, 23 May 2010

Sri Lankan soldiers waiting last week for a ceremony to mark the end of the war in Kilinochchi, where the final battle was fought. The plight of civilians caught in the crossfire was brushed aside at the time.

A year ago, one of the world's most brutal and pitiless terrorist groups, the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE), was hunted down and exterminated on a strip of beach in the far north-east of Sri Lanka.

In a war that had dragged on for 27 years, more than 80,000 on both sides had died, hundreds of thousands had lost their homes and the future of one of the most idyllic tropical islands in the world hung in the balance. Suddenly it was all over.

In defiance of all predictions, the war was brought to a swift and bloody end. The plight of tens of thousands of Tamil civilians caught in the middle was brushed aside: a Chinese veto prevented the UN Security Council from even debating the issue, let alone sending monitors to investigate. Foreign journalists were barred both from the conflict zone and the prison camps set up for Tamil survivors, as was David Miliband when the then foreign secretary flew in to try to find out what was going on. Local journalists critical of government action were terrorised into silence.

Ananda-USA said...

How Beijing won Sri Lanka's civil war

........continued 1......
Then on the morning of 19 May, after a final gun battle lasting an hour, the bodies of 18 of the top Tiger leaders were found sprawled among the mangroves. Among them was the supreme leader, Velupillai Prabhakaran. The war was over.

It was a great victory, the emphatic end of a terrorist gang whom no one in their right mind would mourn. But it was achieved in the teeth of opposition from the US and its allies, and at appalling human and moral cost. How had it been allowed to happen?

The answer, in one word, is "China". When the US ended direct military aid in 2007 over Sri Lanka's deteriorating human rights record, China leapt into the breach, increasing aid to nearly $1bn (£690m) to become the island's biggest donor, giving tens of millions of dollars' worth of sophisticated weapons, and making a free gift of six F7 fighter jets to the Sri Lankan air force. China encouraged its ally Pakistan to sell more arms and to train pilots to fly the new planes. And, crucially, China prevented the UN Security Council from putting Sri Lanka on its agenda.

Suddenly, thanks to China's diplomacy, the hectoring of the US and Europe didn't matter any more. After nearly 500 years under the thumb of the West, the immensely strategic little island in the Indian Ocean had a new sugar daddy – one with a very different conception of its duties. Sri Lanka's "traditional donors" had "receded into a distant corner", the country's Foreign Secretary, Palitha Kohona, told The New York Times in 2008. "Asians don't go around teaching each other how to behave," he said. "There are ways we deal with each other – perhaps a quiet word, but not wagging the finger."

Money, arms and diplomatic cover are necessary preconditions for taking a war to its logical conclusion, but they are not enough. Also required is ideological cover: a casus belli that must go beyond the thirst for revenge, communal hatred or the urge of the majority to impose its will permanently on the minority. It must be possible to sell it as a just war. For this purpose, as Bob Dylan recognised a long time back ("With God on our side"), religion comes in handy.

Enter the Sinhalese Buddhists.

We in the West by and large have a pretty foggy understanding of Buddhism, but one thing we know for certain is that Buddhists are for peace. So the idea that the war party in Sri Lanka – not just in the past five years but throughout the years of independence – was identifiable with Buddhist monks does not sound right. It's like finding Trappist monks engaged in a talk-athon or Orthodox Jews running a pork pie factory.

Buddhists don't do war. Look at the Dalai Lama: for 50 years he has strained every fibre to prevent Tibetan resistance to Chinese oppression turning violent. He has a great line on this challenge: "In the practice of tolerance, one's enemy is the best teacher."

Up close, Sinhalese Buddhism looks as harmless and pacific as any other variety. Visit any temple in the country during Poya or full moon day, a monthly national religious holiday on the island, and you will find scenes of perfect serenity as families dressed all in white offer food to the monks in their saffron robes, then picnic under the trees or stroll around the whitewashed stupa.

Ananda-USA said...

How Beijing won Sri Lanka's civil war

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By contrast, listen to the words of the Venerable Athuraliye Rathana in 2002: "There are two central concepts of Buddhism," the monk said, "compassion and wisdom. If compassion was a necessary and sufficient condition, then the Buddha would not have elaborated on wisdom or prajna. Hitler could not have been overcome by maitriya [compassion] alone. Today there is a discourse about peace in Sri Lanka. It is an extremely artificial exercise and one that is clearly being orchestrated under threat of terrorist attack."

Imagine those words coming from the mouth of the Dalai Lama and you get an idea of how sharply the views of some Sri Lankan monks diverge from the pacific Buddhist norm. He is not saying "bomb the hell out of the Tigers, as the Allies destroyed Hitler". But the implication is clear enough.

How did Sri Lankan Buddhism veer off so sharply from the other schools? Buddhism was born in northern India in the 6th century BC, and spread throughout the subcontinent and beyond. But eight or nine hundred years later it began to lose ground to new schools of devotional Hinduism, which steadily supplanted it. Eventually it disappeared from the Indian mainland altogether.

Buddhist monks in Sri Lanka watched this process with alarm, and hatched a way to stop it at the coast: they wrote a new book of scripture, the Mahavamsa, to establish indissoluble links between the historical Buddha and their island. The Mahavamsa claimed that the Buddha had visited Sri Lanka three times and had declared it "dhammadipa", "the island of righteousness" – a sort of Buddhist Promised Land, where the Sinhalese should rule and Buddhism should be unchallenged. The Mahavamsa, although not accepted by scholars as a core teaching, helped to ensure that the island remained Buddhism's last remaining outpost in the subcontinent. But there was a price to pay: a vein of intolerant chauvinism, inimical to the religion elsewhere, became part of its permanent baggage.

After independence in 1948, Sri Lanka's Buddhists established themselves as a fierce, intimidating nationalist presence. Although the fourth prime minister, Solomon Bandaranaike, had done the Buddhists' bidding in making Sinhala the official language, he temporised over Buddhists taking over schools run by Christians. So in September 1959, a monk called Talduwe Somarama pulled a revolver out of his robes and shot him dead.

Ananda-USA said...

How Beijing won Sri Lanka's civil war

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When Mahinda Rajapaksa won the general election of 2004 to become Prime Minister, the Norwegian-negotiated ceasefire of 2002 was already unravelling. One year later, he became President, but even though the island's peace was increasingly fragile, it was still unclear where his policy was headed. His party, the Sri Lanka Freedom Party (founded by Bandaranaike), was, like the opposition, still supposedly committed to the stuttering peace process. The champions of all-out war were limited to 10 newly elected monk MPs and another small extremist party.

Then, in August 2005, the Tigers assassinated Lakshman Kadirgamar, Sri Lanka's highly regarded foreign secretary, himself a Tamil, and peace quite suddenly disappeared from the scene. The following April, the Tigers abruptly cancelled scheduled peace talks in Geneva, and six days later Rajapaksa's new army chief, General Sarath Fonseka, was nearly killed by a Tiger suicide bomb. As the war shadows deepened, monks were again on hand to hurry things along.

On 21 July, the Tigers shut off sluice gates to a reservoir near Trincomalee in the north-east, depriving nearly 30,000 people, many of them recent Sinhalese settlers, of drinking water and water for their fields. A group of politicised monks rushed to a temple near the reservoir and announced that they were going to march on the Tigers' lines and fight them to the death.

It was merely a stunt: as one Sri Lankan journalist who covered the event recalled, "they did not have the numbers or the public support to take on the LTTE during the march. As they were walking they were stopped by the military." But it succeeded in sparking the new war: the air force attacked Tiger positions on 26 July, after which ground troops began the operation to take charge of the gates. The war's final phase was under way.

Like it or not, the pax sinica is spreading across the world: in return for getting the West off Sri Lanka's back, the Chinese got to build a new port at Hambantota on the south coast, a vital link in the "string of pearls" they are constructing across the Indian Ocean, from Burma to Pakistan. But just as significant as the success of the Chinese is the failure of the Western model.

The annihilation of the Tigers took practically everybody by surprise. Sri Lanka had been battling it out against the improvised forces of the Tigers since 1983, but victory never seemed close. Under its charismatic founder and leader, the Tigers fought with fanatical zeal in jungle terrain that was ideal for guerrilla warfare, and the government troops, with their cautious, conventional tactics, were no match for them. Whenever victory seemed on the cards, heavy pressure from India and the West brought the two sides to the negotiating table. A ceasefire signed in 2002 was greeted by the outside world as a major step towards achieving a federal solution. That agreement slowly unravelled, but when the war restarted informally in July 2006, the Tigers still controlled nearly one-third of the island.

By spring last year, the Tigers had lost nearly all their territory and were boxed into 85 square kilometres of jungle – but even then, outright government victory seemed improbable.

Why? Because however brutal their tactics, the Tigers had succeeded in establishing the idea that the Tamils, discriminated against for many years by the Sinhalese majority, were entitled to their own homeland. The conventional wisdom held that this war neither could nor should have a military outcome, but a diplomatic one. Like errant children, both sides would eventually come round: a ceasefire, peace talks, some kind of settlement imposed by pressure from the West and facilitated by the Norwegians was the only way out of the mess, however unsatisfactory. The Tamils would run their side of the island, the Sinhalese would run theirs.

Ananda-USA said...

How Beijing won Sri Lanka's civil war

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There were plenty of arguments against such a resolution. For one thing, the island's Tamils are by no means confined to the north and the east. Under British rule, Tamils were favoured for government jobs; today Tamils constitute a majority of the population of the capital, Colombo. At the other end of the social scale, tens of thousands of poor Tamil peasants were brought in under the Raj as indentured labour to work on the tea estates. Both Colombo and the estates were well outside the region the Tigers wanted for its sovereign state. But in a small island polarised between warring ethnic groups, and with a history of ethnic cleansing on both sides, what sort of future could Tamils outside "Eelam" look forward to?

But the prospects for Tamils who found themselves inside the state that Prabhakaran wanted to carve out of the island were hardly more promising. During his 25 years in control, the guerrilla leader had been distinguished by one characteristic above all: utter ruthlessness. He had eliminated every possible rival for power, killing all moderate and pacific Tamil leaders as well as those who favoured the gun. He had subjected Tamils both inside the island and in the diaspora to punitive taxes to fund his war, and had forced thousands of families to give up their children to fight as soldiers. He had ordered pogroms against Muslims in the area he controlled, forcing thousands of them to flee, as well as massacring Sinhalese civilians.

Within the ranks of his guerrilla army he demanded total dedication, inventing the suicide bomb as a weapon of war and requiring his cadres to carry cyanide capsules so they could kill themselves rather than submit to enemy interrogation. On the rare occasions he appeared in public, including his one and only press conference in 2002, he always wore military fatigues, cultivating the image of the single-minded guerrilla leader – but family snaps unearthed after his death showed him living in luxury.

His challenge in 2002 was to convince the world that the man who had ordered the assassinations of both the Indian prime minister, Rajiv Gandhi, and the Sri Lankan president, Ranasinghe Premadasa, was capable of re-inventing himself, Sinn Fein-style, as a civilian leader worthy of international respect. But it was a transformation that proved well beyond him: his reflexive response to any crisis remained the same – to murder the people he held responsible. The idea that a man of his kidney could run a plausible democratic state was one of the sicker jokes of the decadent period of US diplomatic hegemony.

But even if Prabhakaran had turned out to possess the political gifts of a Gerry Adams, there is a strong argument to be made that the West had no business trying to dictate peace terms to the legitimate government of the island, faced with an astonishingly brutal insurgency.

The reuniting of Sri Lanka under Sinhalese domination fills many in the minority community with foreboding: a Tamil businessman in Trincomalee told me that he fears the arrival of another wave of government-sponsored Sinhalese colonisation. He also talked of how the new arrivals impose their symbolic presence by installing Buddha statues.

There was plenty wrong with the Sri Lankan polity in the years after independence, and there is plenty still wrong with it today. In the words of the then UN high commissioner for Human Rights, Louise Arbour, now president of the International Crisis Group, after her visit in October 2007, it is a country where "the weakness of the rule of law and prevalence of impunity are alarming". But the idea that these wrongs could be righted by splitting this small island down the middle into two armed camps, and putting one of the halves in the pocket of a homicidal maniac, is one of the crazier ideas to have gained currency in our times.

Moshe Dyan said...

ninja,

i will never accept suddas are worse than TEs. there are good suddas but there aren't any good TEs.

beating TEs is the BEST way to destroy suddas' conduit in SL. and unlike sudda, TEs are beatable.

Moshe Dyan said...

pol,

sure. the fact that sudda cannot be beaten doesn't mean we should do ANYTHING he says that is detrimental to us.

we have to counter IC's crap allegations.

guess what, even tamilnet is against suddas!!!

they call their involvement, "internally supported genocide" and blame every nation except themselves.

Moshe Dyan said...

mitra,

of course, i will fight their crap allegations. have no fear!!

but the BEST way to beat both is right here in SL. colonization. that frustrates both groups. today the IC pose a big distraction. we should not be distracted while keeping interence away.

Moshe Dyan said...

toiletnet has graphs now!!!

the bloody idiots don't realize, chart 2 INVARIABLY leads to chart 1!!!

Moshe Dyan said...

ananda,

yes, SLPAC is our multipolar in action. such a pathetic soul!!

Ananda-USA said...

My Comment on the Independent article:

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The whole western notion that Buddhists have no right to fight for their survival, because Buddhism and Buddhists under normal circumstances are expected to be kind and compassionate, is indeed one of the most diabolical weapons that both the Tamil Eelamists of the LTTE, and various western countries who have waged the bloodiest wars in human history when thier survival was at stake, wielded for 30 long years against the sovereign Sri Lankan nation and its people.

That attitude towards the Sri Lankan state translated into with-holding the weapons necessary for its defence, to denying it the loans necessary for development, the favourable trading relationships necessary to market our goods, and outright threats of invasion by foreign forces. Just imagine what would have happened if the United States denied Britain the weapons, food and other essentials during the early days of World War II!

The net result of those attitudes and actions was that the Eelam war, initiated by India which trained delivered and funded these terrorists in Sri Lanka, was extended for 30 long years killing 100,000 people in the process, and delaying Sri Lanka's economic development by three decades, even as the rest of the world raced to market their wares in an increasingly competitive world.

Well, India changed its posture after they recognized the threat posed by thye LTTE to the national integrity of India itself, and after 30 years of failed negotiations pushed by the West, Sri Lanka elected a new President committed to liberating its people. Under the leadership of his team, the Sri Lanka Defence Forces and the Government acted in unison, Sri Lanka Defence Forces completely rehauling its weapons and tactics, and unleashing its experienced and highly skilled military leaders to act and win without political interference. The result of that gifted leadership is now HISTORY.

Sri Lanka indeed would not have won this war without the phalanx of Allies that President Mahinda Rajapaksa marshalled. There were traditional allies like Pakistan, that had always stood by Sri Lanka, and other countries such as China and India who provided funds and political support on the global stage, and Iran and Lybia who met our need for funds in our time of need, when western nation blocked IMF loans. We will be eternally grateful to these friendly nations.

Why we may ask, did our traditional friends in the West let Sri Lanka down, when this nation, one of the only two democracies in South Asia turned to them for help? I believe it is because they have largely forgotten their own history, and their struggles to survive coupled to paternalistic attitudes towards poorer developing nations. The attitude is if you have political problems in your country, let divide it into pieces as the universal solution, but we will fight tooth and nail to keep our whole.

It is all PURE HYPOCRISY and DOUBLE TALK!

Goolge said...

Guys, check this out! It's Amitabh B promoting SL (and the IIFA).

BTW Ananda that link to Beijing/SL story didn't work. Try this.

Goolge said...

Ok just noticed, your second link worked!

Thusitha said...

Moshe Dyan said...
toiletnet has graphs now!!!

the bloody idiots don't realize, chart 2 INVARIABLY leads to chart 1!!!

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Haha. Reminds me of John Stuarts Parody of Glen Beck's charts.

Jon Stewart's Epic Glenn Beck Parody

Moshe Dyan said...

IF a buddhist monk is appointed to carryout poojas at katharagama temple, that is wrong. but administration, ok.

we should not forget religious and cultural sensitivities.

in fact tamil or any racial aspirations are valid ONLY in cultural and religious matters.

Moshe Dyan said...

thusitha,

lol!!

kevin said...

No Mess
H'Ferry road is only 500yards the most from my home.
Must go very busy and I have written for almost for a year last evening.I am a Sinhalese and a life long friend of Kevin who is almost 4000 miles away,just holding his fort.
Good luck to blogger keep religion,history and culture out of in your arguments as they belongs to humbugs.Help your country as much as you can,invest there like we have done and suffer the pains like most folks do in SL,unless one is a ass lick er of the politics as they seems to be immuned from the normal struggles of the people.Stop basing suddas etc which is irrelevant but damaging as we are trying our best to get the GSP+ for our suffering people.Government needs this badly.
Stop basing the Colombians,then you are having a go at the Hon rajapakse family as well. we were neighbours with them at Kandawatte in nuggegoda where we were in and out of their homes.
Capital is the engine of power in any country and It's the Pol Pot like people who wants the other way.
Lets not be trapped by the History as the facts glorified for sinister purposes and usual it is sermon of the bankrupt prophet.
No one country had a glorious pleasant history which was stained with blood of the innocent.
Look at the great Pyramids,the Inca temples and our glorious Taj Mahal.Millions died building that to glorify the tyrants in power.Take the example of Taj Mahal,where vain people like Princess Diana posed in front as a symbol of love.Is it really? 42000 poor people died building it just to fulfill a mad dream of an equally mad king.This gruesome history prevailed in Europe too.
They were the first to come out of their horrible history and the shackles of their religion and the heavens have rewarded them with technology,true democracy and freedom.That's why these 'patriotic blogger live and work.'
why do we look back ward? Simply speaking are we going to give up the jet plane,the motor car,the penicillin and embrace out dated Buggy cart?
We see the future danger looming for people in SL where the Diaspora will attempt once again to put a foot hold and they are sure to influence the new administrations(in Europe) as they got the mighty vote bank and money,not forgetting the ploy to create mayhem in India.
We have to look after our selves economically by forging friendships,getting soft loans for worth while infrastructure projects,allowing the private sector to thrive,etc.
I will rest my case.
Ps
We are not talking poppycock,when the respective governments requested us to invest in SL and we have done so in big numbers,though it's not bringing tangible results,not yet.So we the Colombians have done our best.I like this word Colombian and I wonder what Kevin might think of it?

Sam Perera said...

Pol and Kevin,

I was following your discussion for a while now. It seems to me that both of you are of the same opinion on many issues but there is some disagreement on some issues. I don't think that any of us are Colombians. In my view, a Colombian is not somebody living in Colombo or west but living in self imposed mental servitude to west. One is emphasizing developing good ties with the west and we have our full agreement on that matter. The other tries to fend-off diplomatic meddlers and imposers which we all strive for. End of the day we are taking a stance of being independent from unsavory, I repeat, unsavory meddlers. There is no doubt that we should do good business and extract the best of ideas from all corners of the civilized. At the same time, there is no doubt that we don't need high pitched lessons from the self-appointed guardians of civilization aka unwelcome meddlers on how we live our internal matters. We should welcome good ideas but we decide by ourselves on how those ideas are applied.

kevin said...

Ananda said..

'Why we may ask, did our traditional friends in the West let Sri Lanka down, when this nation, one of the only two democracies in South Asia turned to them for help? I believe it is because they have largely forgotten their own history, and their struggles to survive coupled to paternalistic attitudes towards poorer developing nations.'
I meet some of these leaders and Kevin patronize them in his business.
You will be amazed how ignorant they are of our plight because there's no one worthwhile here to put it to them.Just as the terrorists are doing we must spend money on a PR company to lobby them.
we are doing our bit lobbying them at the parliament.there's a lot of steps being taken to curtail their fund making etc.To be honest SL is very insignificant to them,perhaps when we find oil then we might come into their focus but until then we must consolidate our recent victories,even ban the racist parties with the help of all non communal members of the Parliament.Leave no room for separatist and religious politics in the island and as long as it is brought about by the act of Parliament the diaspora may not be able urge the mentors in the West to go against the law of the country.
West have some regard for the country to be united.Some patriots are lobbying to stop notorious reporters deliberately distorting facts in SL and make themselves vulnerable and then to seek refugee status in the West.We personally took up one case in particular were we sent private and imminent observers to both recent elections at an enormous expense to both of us and their reports were submitted to various governments in the West.We found that the Hon Rajpakse and his party were popular with the people(even with the Columbians) and he was duly elected.There was a question or two about the pre election violence and our answer was at hand as the researchers found worse cases in other'accepted' democracies and in our own country the previous elections were violated by the other parties as well.So let us urge the gosl to do it's best to bring law and order attractive and conducive to do business and people.If we were like former Singapore then match over for the terrorists, with the international safety net thus created and their demise might come sooner than one imagine.Because the world's economies are intertwined and it is not to the interest of anyone to deprive people of any country to be excluded.Countries like UK and USA wants more consumers and wealth creators,from the humble farmer,street seller to the CEO of the local company.
This the reason why they have invested so heavily in India and China.I can see so many Chinese and India tourists in UK helping the infrastructure.Their universities are full of them.Mr MR spoke at the Oxford union.half the participants at the gallery were Chinese from mainland.We must use their good will to better our selves as there are no more colonials and imperialists any more waiting to grab countries.This like flogging a dead horse and they laugh at us when ever we ask them this question.There's is a valied reason for Iraque and I think it's part of globalizing the economies of the world as some found that 6 billion or so income is in the hand of few with the tyrant in power and the only consumers are the very few and the suppliers are the Russians(weapons only) and consumers are negligible which is bad neas for the money hungry west.

kevin said...

Sam
I fully agree with you.Meddlers are not physically present in SL but pull strings from their constituencies.we exposed them recently to their voters and they were badly beaten.this is a warning to others who meddle in internal politics in SL.Appealing to the voter directly is best to sho what their MPs are up to.

Thusitha said...

Sri Lanka rebounds after rebel defeat, but scars linger

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CNN article on SL. Not so biased.

Goolge said...
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Goolge said...

Another article on SL. Comments open.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/libertycentral/2010/may/23/sri-lanka-tourism-human-rights

Sam Perera said...

Thusitha,

It is a fairly unbiased article in my view. One thing I noticed is that some Colombians are talking about military check points. These Colombians need to eat fish with lots of Omega-3 fatty acids to improve memory and rational sectors of their brains. The bottom line is that we have the prime warriors on Earth looking after our security and the Colombians need to trust their judgment little more, not to mention the fact that we discover hidden weapons even today. We should bring normalcy slowly so that it will not go away quickly either.

Anonymous said...

I have put some comments at the Independent UK.

You will also notice some monkey called "Roshan deSilva". I have seen this Tamilia cretin elsewhere (Economist, DailyMail, Times, Telegraph) pretending to be a Sinhalese and spreading hate. I honestly don't get why he tries to masquerade as a Sinhalese, it is obvious who he is.

Anonymous said...

Sam,
With regards to your post @ May 23, 2010 6:46 AM.

There is engaging with the West, doing business and have friendship which is fine.

Then there is complete slavery and worshipping, which you will find is unfortunately endemic in some people, especially a certain someone be he here or "4,000 miles away".

Does not mean they are not patriotic, but it does make you cringe.

Sam Perera said...

Patriots,

There was a very heartwarming incident I noticed last week amidst the floods. Our brother and sisters in Jaffna had sent flood relief material to Colombo. I simply hope that we give enough publicity to this act of compassion. More and more such action both ways will help to douse separatist sparks.

Sam Perera said...

Pol,

I noticed the Rohan guy there. Most of the guys we deal in these sites are rabid hardcore Eelamists. However, the most dangerous among them are the Sinna Sithar class who pretends that they are neutral while engaging in real Eelamist propaganda.

There are two poster boys for Colombians, Ravi K. and Ranil W. Then of course, their followers. They are mostly living in 1960s and expect the uneducated (anybody other than a Colombian) masses to say yes to their views. To some, it had been truly shocking to see Sgt. Muthubandas giving the finger for their BS.

These unsavory elements together with meddling diplomatic apes will not go away any time soon. We will have an interesting time ahead in dealing with all of them. On the brighter side, their attempts of intrusions will keep the nationalistic spirit alive for decades to come.

Anonymous said...

Sam,

Yeah i have run into these "neutral" Tamilia before.

They pretend to be "moderates" try and ram down your throat their eelam bs and then threaten you not to challenge them otherwise you "may lose" them.

I met such a fellow some years back on cricket website. He tries to befriend you then "black mail" you, there was a circus of people trying not to "upset" the "moderate" otherwise he might "join the LTTE".

Anyway i exposed this fellow and humiliated him and his "moderate" credentials.

Worst was that, unlike die-ass-pora "kids", this fellow grew up in Colombo, family was rich, had loads of Sinhala friends, lived in a mansion in Wellawatte, never faced any hardship, and even got a scholarship to the US for university education (all SL funded) yet heavily backed the LTTE and poured hate and scorn on Sri Lanka (covertly). Now he is a US citizen –cannot go back to SL because of "genocide", but still comes for holidays. Hikz.

Sam Perera said...

Uva-Kudaoya Commando Training Centre Receives Its First Commander into a POP

Another group of youth joins the outstanding heroes of Sri Lankan history of 2550 years. From Mavilaru to Vellamullivaikkal, we know that we have the premier warriors on Earth with us. We have our full confidence in them that they will carry the patriotic spirit forwards for centuries to come.

Ananda-USA said...

Mass marriage of Tiger couples

PK Balachandran
May 23, 2010

COLOMBO: Fifty six LTTE couples, who are not legally married, will be married off as per Sri Lankan law, at a mass ceremony to be held at Pampaimadu in Vavuniya district on June 13.

“And I am playing cupid,” said a chirpy Brig. Sundantha Ranasinghe, Commissioner General of Rehabilitation, who has under his care about 9,000 ex-LTTE cadre.

“In a sense, these couples are already married, either through a mutual verbal commitment or at a temple. But these marriages are not recognised by law.They have no marriage certificates. The mass marriage, we are planning, will give the relationships the required legal status, and help the couples settle down in society without any hassles,” Ranasinghe told Express on Sunday.

“To make these marriages foolproof, and also to avoid any legal problems for me in the future, I am getting down the parents of the couples next week, and securing a written consent from them. At the moment ,we have the consent of the couples, but not their parents’,” he said.

Ranasinghe hopes that the parents would not put a spoke in the wheel, as some of the couples could be from different castes or classes.

“At any rate, preparations for the grand ceremony are underway. During the auspicuious period between 7 am and 8.02 am,on the day, Hindu and Christian priests will conduct the wedding, and the Registrars of Marriages would be in attendance to do the needful. After the nuptials, laddoos and cakes will be served,” Ranasinghe said.

“When the couples were in the LTTE, they could not marry legally, because Prabhakaran had banned marriages between cadre, though he himself had married and produced children,” the Brigadier pointed out.

After surrender to the Sri Lankan forces, in April-May 2009, the male and famale Tiger cadre, numbering about 11,500, were segregated and housed in different “rehabilitation centres,” where they were to undergo vocational training and general schooling.

Of these, about 2,000, including 847 females, 253 children and 55 university students, have already been released. In all, there were about 148 university students among the cadre, and of these, 51 were girls, Ranasinghe said.

Ananda-USA said...

‘Mad house’ of castes

Amulya Ganguli
May 21, 2010

By a curious coincidence, the government’s decision to make caste a part of the census exercise has come at a time when the obscurantism and violence associated with this baneful social phenomenon has become apparent. The growing clout of the caste-based khap panchayats and the so-called honour killings of hapless couples who had dared to defy existing conventions have shown how dangerous a renewed emphasis on this regressive feature of Hindu society can prove to be.

What is noteworthy is the role which Sonia Gandhi played with the help of the ‘pragmatic’ Pranab Mukherjee to foist the decision on a habitually subservient party while the PM was telling the Lok Sabha that the Cabinet will discuss the issue. The purpose of Sonia’s initiative was to bring the restive Yadav duo Lalu Prasad and Mulayam Singh on the Congress’ side to buttress the party’s insecure position in the Lok Sabha. If the CBI can be used to bring Mayawati on board, tinkering with the census procedure is small beer if the OBC leaders can be persuaded to walk into the Congress’ parlour. From these cynical acts, it is now fairly evident that a driving force behind Sonia’s recent calculations is to ensure that the Congress is not dislodged from power. It must remain in office even if, to do so, potentially harmful policies have to be followed.

For instance, towards the end of the UPA-I tenure, Sonia had nearly scuttled the nuclear deal to keep the communists on board. She had even said that the Left had a point in opposing the deal. The purpose of dumping Manmohan Singh’s pet project was to keep the Congress afloat with the Left’s help. She didn’t know that the comrades were not all that indispensable. If Rahul Gandhi had not intervened in favour of the deal, it is quite likely that Sonia would have seen to its demise. What impact such an unwise step would have had on Congress’ middle class supporters cannot be known. But the episode showed Congress president is so focused on not losing power that she has little time to consider the long-term implications of a particular step.

Neither Sonia nor the ‘social justice’ parties like the RJD, the Janata Dal(United) and the Samajwadi Party can foresee what will happen when the 6,000 castes and 65,000 sub-castes make their formal entry into the political scene with official approval after eight decades. Given the imponderables of this nature, the smile on the faces of the Mandal trio may freeze when they realise that the explosion of castes can marginalise those like the Yadavs who have been lording over the scene till now. Already, the OBC category has been subdivided by the creation of a group of Extremely Backward Classes (EBC) in Bihar, comprising more than 100 castes. The Dalits are also being divided with the formation of a Mahadalit group. Needless to say, these manoeuvres are intended not so much to fulfil the avowed objective of the advancement of these sections as to reduce the influence of the Yadavs among the OBCs and the Paswans among the Dalits. That the targets are Lalu and Paswan are obvious.

Ananda-USA said...

‘Mad house’ of castes

........continued....
What is being done today by Nitish Kumar in Bihar in the name of social engineering will be attempted on a gigantic scale once the 65,000-plus castes enter the political field with their new champions, who will probably have an even more restricted mental horizon than the present-day regional leaders.

Only the naïve will believe, however, that the latest exercise is being undertaken only to provide the benefits of reservation to easily identifiable and quantitatively assessed communities. The real aim is to cater to and thereby strengthen casteist sentiments in the hope of presiding over the political mobilisation of these groups. The eagerness of the OBC leaders was understandable. Caste is the only thing they understand. It is a pity, however, that the Congress, which has traditionally kept away from such sectarian impulses — at least formally — should now be associated with such a retrogressive move.

Although the inherently unequal and discriminatory nature of the caste system compelled countless Hindus to seek solace in more egalitarian religions like Islam, Sikhism and Christianity, the grip of this sectarian idea is so strong that it has pursued the converts to distort their new faiths as well. The reason for this unfortunate resilience of the caste system is probably the fact that it is based primarily on hate, which is a more potent sentiment than love.

It has been the fervent endeavour, therefore, of all the modernisers of Indian society to eradicate this phenomenon even by embracing atheism, as Periyar did. Mahatma Gandhi, through his campaign against untouchability — a key feature of the caste system — and Jawaharlal Nehru, with his espousal of modern, scientific values, tried to undermine casteism to the best of their ability. The founding fathers of the constitution recognised it only with regard to the provision of reservations for the limited period of a decade for the Dalits and Adivasis, the two most neglected of all communities.

But this understandable preference for affirmative action was the thin end of the wedge which, in the hands of short-sighted politicians, has breathed new life into the malign concept which should have been allowed to wither away. It was the Congress’ decline and the rise of the backward castes during the Janata regime of 1977-’79 which saw the establishment of the Mandal commission and the subsequent perversion of the original constitutional mandate.

Since the latest exercise is being undertaken with reservations in mind, the first outcome will be an attempt to bypass the Supreme Court’s obiter dicta on keeping the quotas below 50 per cent. And the second abomination will be to introduce quotas in the private sector to enable it to emulate the public sector’s inefficiency and yearning for subsidies. The fallout will be a repeat of the Mandal-kamandal conflict of the Nineties with the difference that it is the Mandalites who will now be at loggerhead following the marginalisation of the upper castes.

A common argument in favour of including caste in the census enumeration is that it will only reflect the existing reality. Yet, not all realities need to be acknowledged. For instance, it is preferable that the distressing reality that no family wants a girl child is not highlighted through tabulation lest it should legitimise such regressive attitudes. It is for this reason that the family planning advertisements feature a girl child while other similar slides show a father berating a khap panchayat-type group of elders for marrying off their underage daughters and another depicts a girl helping her father in his farm like a boy. Nothing shows, therefore, the degeneration of the political class more than this latest boost to the pernicious caste system.

About the author:

Amulya Ganguli is a Delhi-based political commentator

Moshe Dyan said...

moderate tamils = tamil who don't support violence but MAY support TE

so not all moderate tamils are good.

true moderates don't brand them "tamil" and look at others as outsiders.

since we have beaten the armed TEs, there is no difference between ppl like ASS (ananda singari) and sambandan. both are racists.

kevin said...

I am not surprised this guy who had friends among the Sinhalese in wellawatte and now living in US had joined the diaspora terrorists.This is not unusual,when they live in a strange country with people there not receptive,they get disappointed,demoralized and eventually get radicalized.The terror enclaves are waiting to give them all the support.We use to have student centres,but no more as they were stolen and sold by respective governments.Lucky ones go to seek comfort in temples and churches,finding their memories of the countries left behind as a comfort, most probably work as slaves with no hope in any kind of job to suite their new found qualifications.They are bitter,disappointed and envious of others who were go getters,who cleverly assimilated with the locals and become high achievers.What is endemic is these new comers teach their children to be radicalized as well and then they end up with the terrorists in places like Pakistan.These poor kids become withdrawn and get bullied by the other kids and some suffer mentally.They too will have a bleak future in these countries and the hardworking high achievers becomes the target of these failed people.We encountered so much harm and problems when employed them by us.This is a very sad fact.

Goolge said...

Couple of links:

1) Interesting background on an ICG fellow:
Hand behind ICG report on Sri Lanka – Stephen Solarz – aided Pol Pot from US Congress

2)
This is a POV from an ex-Italian diplomat who had lived in Afghanistan for 16 or 17 years. As a solution to the problems in Af-Pak, he advocates

- splitting Afghanistan to regions
- redrawing the border between Af-Pak (I think with a view to isolating the mountainous border regions)

http://oilprice.com/Geo-Politics/International/NATO-Not-Learning-Lessons-in-Afghanistan-as-it-prepares-for-another-Military-Triumph.html

Anonymous said...

Moshe,

Tamil who supports TE in secret is worse than Tamil who supports LTTE.

The latter is "open" and clear who he is.
The former is more dangerous (he uses media and other tools to greater and more damaging effect than the latter).

Many Sinhalese think just because someone does not support LTTE or says a few bad words about them (this is just a formality & a trap) they are "on our side".

They then try and white wash LTTE, to push TE + condemn Sinhalese all at once and many Sinhalese are afraid to question them in case they "lose the moderate", or even get tricked and conned into believing their bs (Sinhalese + Government evil --> Tamils have grievances --> solution is devolution --> TE -->conquest of Sinhalese -that is the final stage of TE “struggle”).

The most dastardly part of the "Tamil moderate" trap is that if you question them they, their hangers on and Sinhalese they may have brainwashed, quickly label you an "extremist" to silence your counter arguments to their bs.

Anonymous said...

Sam Perera said...
Uva-Kudaoya Commando Training Centre Receives Its First Commander into a POP

Another group of youth joins the outstanding heroes of Sri Lankan history of 2550 years. From Mavilaru to Vellamullivaikkal, we know that we have the premier warriors on Earth with us. We have our full confidence in them that they will carry the patriotic spirit forwards for centuries to come.


Sam thanks for sharing.

The pictures alone speak volumes and are awe inspiring.
Those pictures tell you why as a people have survived for 2,500 years and why our enemies have always failed.

Just of note are they using digital camouflage? I have seen earlier pictures of troops passing out/on duty with digital camouflage.

I remember reading back in 2005/early 06 that uniforms etc are all bought from outside SL. It was only Gota who changed this. Shows the uselessness and corruption of previous Governments with regards to soldiers welfare.

I think he (Gota) awarded a contract for uniforms plus body armour to a local company called Harsha International in addition to increasing production by the Army itself.

KB said...

Chaps, I was over in Fort Lauderdale, Florida this weekend watching the 20/20 Cricket tournament between Sri Lanka and New Zealand. This was the first time ever two ICC teams have played in US. All the funds raised from the matches and Gala dinner Saturday night is going towards Sri Lanka Development fund which will among other projects fund constructing of an international Cricket stadium in Jaffna. This whole weekend was put together by the Sri Lankan embassy and it was a great success. Eelam plonkers tried to create a stink by hiring a plane to drag a banner saying 'Stop Tamil Genocide - Boycott Sri Lanka'. As usual that was an utter failure. Also it was heartening to see the security provided to our Ambassador by the city of Fort Lauderdale. He was protected by several burly SWAT team members. Even during Gala dinner hotel ballroom had good police protection.

Cheers!

tata said...

Moshe,
"beating TEs is the BEST way to destroy suddas' conduit in SL. and unlike sudda, TEs are beatable."

Ahh.... you assume that there's one and only one conduit for "Sudda".

They'll find new ones or create new ones.

We may need to fight in multiple fronts in the future. But we have a great source inspiration in the form of our war against terrorism (where our great war heroes fought in multiple fronts)!

Thusitha said...

tata said...
Moshe,
"beating TEs is the BEST way to destroy suddas' conduit in SL. and unlike sudda, TEs are beatable."

Ahh.... you assume that there's one and only one conduit for "Sudda".

-------------------------------
I won't give more than 10-20 years for the suddhas to be part of the history.
The emerging nations would take over the world and there would be nothing the Europe and U.S. can do about it. We need to just forget about GSP plus e.t.c. and concentrate our trade partnership with Bric Countries. They might not give us very high profitability, but they would sure give us stability.

Thusitha said...

Israel responsible for faking Australian passports used in Hamas killing

FOREIGN Minister Stephen Smith has told Parliament Israel was responsible for faking four Australian passports used in the killing of a senior Hamas official.

"Investigations and advice have left the Government in no doubt Israel was responsible for the abuse and counterfeiting of these passports," Mr Smith said today.

He asked that a member of the Israeli Embassy in Canberra be withdrawn from Australia within the week, as a result of the scandal.

"This is not what we expect from a nation with whom we have had such a close, friendly and supportive relationship," he said.

Mr Smith said there was no evidence the passport holders were anything but innocent victims.

"The high quality of these counterfeited passports points to the involvement of a state intelligence service," he said.

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Our intelligence agencies should make sure that when they conduct operations, that we do not get in to this kind of situations. This is not a good thing for Israel.

We should only nab them in friendly countries. Otherwise we should take extreme precaution.

Anonymous said...

[kevin said...

I am Kevin's friend. ...
]

Who is Kevin? and kevin? I think we had only one kevin profile ID

14237448680173590312.

Moshe Dyan said...

pol,

"Tamil who supports TE in secret is worse than Tamil who supports LTTE."

yes. we can fcuk the latter easily but the former cowards are diffuclt to be eliminated. they have to be frustrated.

anyway after the war, ppl see no difference between the two which is a good thing.

Moshe Dyan said...

tata,

certainly. these nasty elements will find a new conduit for sure.

but with SL unified, we can stage a better response. absence of a disenting pseudo nation in SL means our response will be a strong one.

kevin said...

Ninja
I am Kevin's friend in UK.He is now working 4000 miles away and he is upset over the Suda attacks.He rang me several times to explain things and I am reluctantly doing so.We were responsible for organizing the demos last year,specially outside CH4.We have decided that it's futile and a waste of time.These TV stations put out this filth daily and we must not lose sleep over it.People here in UK have come to put up with it and only people to get wound up are the people who have nothing to do in life spending much of the time winding each other.We have a similar lot named the BNP,though they pretend to be patriots but they are truly traitors much harmful to the country they live.They will find fault with each and every thing and each and every person.they are pathatic.Perhaps this may me our last presentation.We are truly proud of our achievments,though not easy at all at the biggining.We too have many axes to grind,much more than you guys could counter together and that does not mean we give up and hate people who are harming us.99 people here are willing to harm us or even finish us off for ever but there will always pe one person who is exceptional and your survival and success is through this 1%.Building hatred and envey is not going to help and very much against the tolarance we are suppose to practice,Monday is a busy day and I thought after a late b'st I would wriite this last presentation.Good luck to you from both Kevin and me.Never forget your roots,help your people in some way.
Cheers!

Moshe Dyan said...

LTTE terrorists attacked dollar farm on vezapillai's 30th birthday. that was the start of 250 terrorist attacks deliberately targeting civilians.

but not all attacks were carried out by the LTTE alone!! there were UNARMED tamil elamists too in attacks on gongala, etc.

why????

IF it was 100% LTTE,

1. use of guns, grenades, RPGs should have been MUCH MUCH higher in some of the MOST brutal attacks. at least to destroy property.

machetts, knives, etc. are not the "weapoans" of the LTTE. NEVER were.

2. they would NEVER take the risk of coming to HOSTILE villages UNARMED knowing well there are army camps nearby, armed home guards in close proximity.

3. such a large movement of terrorists (outsiders to the area) will certainly attract SLDF attention. in all most violent attacks on villages 100-1000 attackers had come.

4. where the hell such a large number of terrorists ran into??? surely it is not possible to evade home guards, army, etc. TWICE!!

5. why weren't terrorist trials found. if such a large number of terrorists had come, surely they would leave a trail behind them. food, water, walking aid, vehicles, etc. would lead to LTTE camps from the village. NOTHING of the sort was EVER found!!

5. also LTTE would NEVER risk their precious few grown up cadres to attack villagers!! that is too risky and dangerous for them. OTOH there is NO evidence some of the most vrutal attacks were carried out by child soldiers. in fact these were done by powerfully built men and women.

so who really attacked villagers alongside the LTTE who could easily blend to the area without a trace??????

UNARMED TAMIL ELAMISTS!!! (armed with machetts, knives, axes, etc. cannot be considered "armed" in the context of the LTTE.)

this may sound CONTROVERCIAL na politically not correct, but this is the ONLY logical conclusion. the motivation was ALWAYS there. SJV chelva vowed to do it. the opportunity was there. when the army was closely monitoring LTTE cadres, these groups with a very few tigers crept into villages BEHIND sldf defence and attacked.

in MOST brutal attacks, ppl were taken by surprise mostly at night so that there will be LEAST resistence. unarmed civilians' resistence was NOTHING for the LTTE.

this evil is not dead. it is still lurking in the dark beyond our villages in the north and east; visiting them at night secretly; waiting; waiting for the next chance to do ethnic cleansing.

are there any other logical answeres to the above questions??????

Moshe Dyan said...

govts deliberately pushed this fact under the carpet bcos otherwise some other barbarians would create trouble.

the response should be civilised, legal, moral and long term.

Anonymous said...

I am Kevin's friend in UK.He is now working 4000 miles away and he is upset over the Suda attacks.

No surprise, kevin loves suddha. He’s still furious over the Buddhist monk who tore down the Union Jack in 1815 –what a “nutter”.

He rang me several times to explain things and I am reluctantly doing so.

Why doesn’t he do it himself?

We were responsible for organizing the demos last year,specially outside CH4.

Impressive.


We have decided that it's futile and a waste of time.These TV stations put out this filth daily and we must not lose sleep over it.

Well you seem to be loosing sleep over me attacking suddha? Didn’t I ruin your Saturday? Hikz. Funny that, they can pour nothing but venom and racist bias to degrade our people but we cannot do the same back to them? How come they do not have similar programs over very real war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan, why no HRW, AI or ICG reports?


People here in UK have come to put up with it

Why do you think Western media broadcasts things like this against little brown people the world over, but never about themselves? LOL.
They love it. Makes them feel good about themselves, to see a terrible world which they are superior of nor part of. Only little brown people are guilty of things like “war crimes”. The first channel 4 video (though a fake) was “truly shocking”, “we are better than that” because “we suddhas never do anything like that! Only dirty uncultured brown people do”. Of course when evidence of real atrocities by suddha surfaces on some obscure channel they scoff at it and show little “shock” or interest.

“and only people to get wound up are the people who have nothing to do in life spending much of the time winding each other.”

Absolutely if suddha says something, no matter what rubbish it is, who the hell are we to challenge it? Are you still upset I ruined your Saturday? Hikz. Wonder who got “wound up”?

“We have a similar lot named the BNP,though they pretend to be patriots but they are truly traitors much harmful to the country they live.
They will find fault with each and every thing and each and every person.they are pathatic.”


Hikz. Throwing around labels now? How Tamil Eelamist of you. Anyone who disagrees with you and your warped thinking are some kind “ist” who is “more harmful”. So much so for you suddhas democracy and freedom advocates.
I have seen this kind of behaviour on “groundviews” (and even Adaderana) all the freedom loving Colombian “democrats” not only HATE opposing views that challenge them or expose their flaws they strictly enforce censorship and carry out hate and defamation campaigns rather than using proper counter arguments.

“Perhaps this may me our last presentation.”

Ok bye.

Anonymous said...

@Moshe,

Ethnic cleansings against Sinhalese began in the late 60s and earlier 70s.

And yeah a lot, including the likes of kent and dollar, were done by ordinary Tamils, not just the LTTE. In places like the Wanni, Jaffna, parts of the East, they just took the homes, property, valuables of Sinhalese (who they “removed”) without a second thought, but we have the likes of Sampathan whining like theres no tomorrow about Tamil “lands” and “property” and demands for compensation.

Government may have “covered it up” to prevent counter attacks on Tamils in the South, but it is ridiculous how Tamils absolve themselves of all guilt and responsibility for their crimes by claiming “it was LTTE”.

Sam Perera said...

If KP is working for ethnic harmony in Sri Lanka, then Ram must be working for CMC to clean toilets. I hope that our intelligence can get Rudrakumaran and Nediyavan to do the same soon. After all Prabakaran is immensely contributing to peace in Sri Lanka after taking a swim in Nandikadal.

දේශපාලුවා said...

I'm Sorry friends, didnt try to be missing in action. been some what busy, welcoming a new member to my family. I'll be back when things calm down a little bit.

Anonymous said...

"Fighting for their fortunes"

A good piece on suddhas "humanitarian work".

http://rajivawijesinha.wordpress.com/2010/05/22/fighting-for-their-fortunes/

Moshe Dyan said...

LTTE die-arse-pora is losing steam.

their referenda attracted around 50% over 18 year olds but the transexual election only attracted around 15% (maximum) over 18 year olds.

a massive drop.

Goolge said...

Thanks Pol for that link. It led me to this fantastic piece: Preliminary Response to the ICG Report, by Rajiva W. Text below:


I have now seen the Executive Summary, and it strikes me as pretty much a rehash of what a couple of interventionist agencies were propagating earlier on, and to which comprehensive responses were given earlier. For instance, the idea that government was firing into the No Fire Zone it declared was in fact first put out by the UN which called up my Ministry, but later granted that most of the firing came from the LTTE. That same day the Bishop of Jaffna issued a statement asking the LTTE to stop firing from within the No-Fire Zone. These facts were ignored by the agencies which seem to have fed in to the ICG report.

Similarly, I dealt at length with the canard about hospitals, first put out by Human Rights Watch, which was self confessedly wrong when it talked about the government engaging in indiscriminate firing on civilians. Its own report at the time, August 2007, recorded only one such alleged instance, in which government did take responsibility but pointed out that firing arose from mortar locating radar. HRW granted that the LTTE did in fact have weapons in an IDP Centre.

Again. HRW noted that many hospitals it complained about were not known hospitals but sites the LTTE claimed were hospitals. There is ample evidence that these sites were also those where they kept heavy weaponry. It is obviously a problem as to how you deal with an enemy that is meting out death from positions it shields with civilians, but no force can stand back and suffer casualties, all it can do is ensure proportionality in its response.

Sadly, we have been here before. Gareth Evans wanted again the grandeur he thought he had obtained through his Cambodian adventures, and in fact suggested to us when he visited in 2007 that the Scandinavian monitoring mission was no good and ICG would do a better job. A similar point was made by Louise Arbour’s sidekick Rory Mungoven when she visited, and this was his rationale for suggesting there should be a UN Mission.

Evans actually lied in pursuit of his aims, in suggesting that Sri Lanka had engaged in genocide and ethnic cleansing, but granted that the ethnic cleansing had been in 1990 by the LTTE and never repeated, and the nearest to genocide was in 1983. He promised to respond to other critiques of his insidious presentation, but did not do so and admitted the following year when I asked him why he had kept quiet that he had realized I was a dangerous person to correspond with. I think a former Foreign Minister who is nervous to debate with a simple academic is not really a serious authority on anything, however distinguished he may have seemed in the past.

Sadly, these characters whose shelf life is long over seem desperate to continue to sit on commissions. Louise Arbour was flogging this horse three years ago, aided and abetted by one of her Canadian acolytes, who applied again to her successor to sit on the War Crimes panel he anticipated the UN would set up last May. His conduct is now being investigated by the Canadians, who have realized how such activists are really salivating at what they see as a gravy train.

I would take these characters more seriously if they at least responded direct to questions instead of hiding behind bodies that continue to keep them in the lifestyles they refuse to give up. Questions such as the US State Department addressed to us about the war are legitimate and we should answer them. Condign criticism from proven sensationalists is another thing altogether.

Anonymous said...

kevin said...

I am Kevin's friend in UK.He is now working 4000 miles away and he is upset over the Suda attacks.He rang me several times to explain things and I am reluctantly doing so.


4000 miles away.. he has phone.. but no internet..?? and upset about sud(d)a attacks.. and calling friends... and friend using his email account..?? ok ok.. don't get upset..

Nisal said...

An unexpected news:

http://expressbuzz.com/topic/kps-contribution-to-lankan-peace-immense/176067.html

Sam Perera said...

Nisal,

The only possibility here is that KP behind bars and that makes the world more peaceful. A similar theory can be applied to dead Prabakaran and other tigers also. The absence of their terrorist activities contributes a lot to peace in Sri Lanka.

Sam Perera said...

Ban Ki-Moon seems to be overstepping his boundaries.

priyashantha said...

Ananda ayya,

It was me who sent you a request from the email thithpolonga.

I understand your need to verify it given mental cases like Rana amidst us.

Thank you.

Sam Perera said...

priyashantha,

I understand your need to verify it given mental cases like Rana amidst us.

The mental case Rana or his buddies get the ride in no time these days. Please do not respond to that nut-job ever. It is easier to give him a ride when it is a monologue.

Thusitha said...

priyashantha said...
Ananda ayya,

It was me who sent you a request from the email thithpolonga.

I understand your need to verify it given mental cases like Rana amidst us.

Thank you.

-------------------------------
Maybe we should disclose our true identities to Ananda. That way we won't get Eelamists in to the website. Ananda already knows my Info. Because me might have Sinhala tigers as well.

Sam Perera said...

Thusitha,

While you are free to reveal your identity to Ananda, I want to say that our blog identities are embedded in the way we express ourselves, not the handle or real name. That is why it is not that difficult to identify multipolars.

Moshe Dyan said...

if you want to seriously get involved in the good work, it is logical to reveal the real identities to ananda.

obviously ananda or GOSL cannot work with talking dotted-serpants!!!!!

but OTOH if you are only into providing support services to the endevour including ideas, info, etc., then you still can remain annonymous. we weigh the ideas anyway so hidden lunatic agendas cannot fool us.

both groups are essential for the success of SLPAC.

boy, how many times they tried fooling us!!! eventually they get fooled. in shame, they call us modayas and run away.

Moshe Dyan said...

there probably was some divine intervention in SL in april/may 2009.

mathivathani, charles, dwarka were all over the place over the past 25 years. but STRANGELY they all came to one place in late 2008.

remember mathivathani was there with KP in bankok in 2008????

charles anthony completed his education and came back to SL in 2007.

dwarka left country for higher studies. she was staying with mathivathany in ireland. then mysteriously cam eback!!!

OBVIOUSLY they were not expecting to die with vezapillai!!!

finally, we had all rotten eggs in one basket.

very soon TNA, CTC, TULF, TMVP, TELO, PLOTE, AITC, GTF, TGTE, LTTE, etc. will shed their differences and come to one place!!!

well, there is a limit divine intervention can do. god helps those who help themselves!!!!!

Sam Perera said...

Moshe,

Is that divine intervention or all of team were in Vanni always. CA was groomed to be the next leader of LTTE for sure. However, I have my doubts that he was actually studying anything other than terrorism. Even though he was rumored to an "aeronautical" engineer, he did not look like the sharpest guy on Earth.

Thusitha said...

TamilNet Reports ...
The announcement falsely linked 'Tamil Eelam' as threatening the 'sovereignty and territorial integrity of a part of the territory of India'. Questioning when Tamil Eelam became part of Indian territory

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So, where exactly is Tamil Eelam? These guys seem to be a bit confused bunch.

පංකාදු ලංකා said...

Sam P,

Thanks for your invitation (on Mahen's blog) to join this forum. I am honoured indeed. I will try to visit this blog as time permits.

Recently we celebrated the 1st anniversary of our victory with a few patriots. No amount of floods could hold us back.

Sam Perera said...

Welcome Pankadu Lanka!

Please visit us often with your views.

KB said...

Chaps, you learn something new everyday. According to TamilNut the National flower of Tamil Eelam is Gloriosa superba. Up to now only thing I knew about this mythical Tamil Eelam was it's national dress; a blue thong 'amude'.

Cheers!

Goolge said...

Article by GL on the Huffington Post. TEs having a field day.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gamini-lakshman-peiris/a-year-after-defeating-te_b_586437.html

Moshe Dyan said...

toiletnet fun.

"[TamilNet, Tuesday, 25 May 2010, 03:38 GMT]
Armenian, Rwandan, Kurdish and the Native American communities joined Northern Californian Tamils in commemorating the first year anniversary of the Mu'l'livaikaal massacre of more than 40,000 Tamils by the Sri Lanka Security forces during the first five months of last year. The event held Saturday between 5:00 p.m. and 7:00 p.m. in Palo Alto California was attended by more than 150 people, organizers of the event said."

just 150 ppl!!

this is a bloody joke.

SL patriots should join hands with locals in commorating 9/11, 7/7, 3/11, etc. attach to them 7/26 katunayake, etc. attacks.

just participate in these events and take a few photos of the overall thing and publish. that's sufficient.

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

nope.

he WAS abroad. he did study it not at the degree level but at a lower level. came back to SL in 2007.

dwarka WAS abraod too for sometime.

mathivathany was also abroad. for long periods of time. strangely her body was not found!!

Anonymous said...

By the way the CEPA or whatever this dirty agreement with India is has started to rear its ugly head again.

Rajapakse should give India the finger. He better not sign this.

Not only are they trying to destroy us with devolution but with economically as well.

Moshe Dyan said...

KB,

re: gloriosa superba

"It is also the state flower of Tamil Nadu state in India, and was the national flower of Tamil Eelam, and as such was displayed during Maaveerar Day."

doesn't surprise me. another copycat thing.

Moshe Dyan said...

"While all parts of the Gloriosa contain colchicine, the roots have the highest concentration of the toxin. One-tenth of an ounce of Gloriosa root can be fatal to an adult."

lol!!

so that's why this is the state flower of toilet madu and toilet elam!!

it provided LTTE suicide cadres a primitive poison when KCN was not in their reach. afantastic symbol for a suicidal mythical nation of tamil elam.

KB said...

One-tenth of an ounce of Gloriosa root can be fatal to an adult.

Moshe, old boy, indeed that is ironic. This whole concept of mythical Tamil Eelam is toxic to humans from roots up.

Cheers!

Sam Perera said...

Tamilnet is getting more hilarious everyday. Now they are talking about a "former" totally non-hardcore innocent LTTE fighter who happened to bite the dust together with Theepan and other 600 terrorist in Anandapuram in April, 2009. For sure, his photo totally looks like a non LTTE fighter.

One day in April 2009, her husband went to Ananthapuram area promising the family to secure their belongings. But, he was missing since then.

Pretty soon, Tamilnut will publish the story of another innocent LTTE fighter named Pottu Amman who went to Nanthikadal to collect some drinking water.

Anonymous said...

Latest joke,

Barry tells North Korea to "apologise" for sinking a South Korean ship.

Well Barry apologise for bombing Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam and er North Korea?

Perhaps a new avenue for Moon to set up a panel.

Anonymous said...

Anniversary of the Vietnam war is conveniently ignored (but they still bask in triumphalism over WWII).

Good documentaries of the atrocities the US committed.

The last minute of part 1 has what would be called "war crimes". (after all the US "report" claimed we did far less -in fact we did nothing of what they have described in their report- as a war crime so what they did in Vietnam = ?)


Vietnam: American Holocaust (part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlpSBB3tts4

Vietnam: American Holocaust (part 2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmon5iAEUq8&feature=related

Moshe Dyan said...

sam,

how about that innocent fat man who went to nantikandal to clear his bowels and to blow the cox of his friends????

he ended up with a shapnel wound and died!!!

Moshe Dyan said...

pol,

whatever monkey boon's origins are, north korea is such a sakkili state.

i wish it will be totally destroyed and made part of south korea.

its leader is exactly like vezapillai. bugger might use a nuke attack as the last resort.

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